Rams' Baker Mayfield: 'I'm A Starting QB!' Which Teams Agree?

[PARAM]

Wherever Baker goes, I hope he gets a great deal so we can salvage a 3rd round comp pick in 2024. Hell if his signing produces that, we'd have 4 picks in the first three rounds. Of course the polar ice would completely melt and earth would
spin off it's axis.

 

[I like Rams]

I know Stafford is older, and gets dinged like every othe QB, but I don't think he was THAT hurt last year, - I believe McVay took a look at the Oline, and just shut him down.

As has been said multiple times, fix the Oline and/or suffer less injuries, and Staff's good for at least another 3 years.
Which is by way of saying I am not interested at all in Mayfield - think he's a good guy, and a bit of a lightning rod for the press (sometimes deserved). but he showed the same inconsistencies he's always shown, and he ain't backing up for less tha $8-10M imo, which can be better spent elsewhere.

So you think the team lied to the press about his multiple concussions and spinal contusion?

 

[VegasRam]

So you think the team lied to the press about his multiple concussions and spinal contusion?

Yes I do. Or to soften that a bit - they bent the truth by keeping him in concussion protocol way longer than necessary.
And I also think a there are a myriad of degrees in severity of spinal contusions.

 

[Da-Rock]

Looking at his play style both physically and mentally.....then seeing him come in without much practice and play well most likely means he would be the best QB2 the Rams could ever ask for.....since coming in without much practice or notice is what a QB2 is for...................but the Rams can't afford him.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

He's a backup at best. Anyone starting him isn't winning a championship.

 

[Rams43]

I wouldn't call it fan delusion. Imo, fan delusion would be that we fix the oline in one off-season and we ride with Stafford for 4-5 more years. Facts are, the oline NEEDS to be fixed in order to keep Staff playing, but since nothing is guaranteed, putting all our chips in on fixing the oline to protect a very banged up veteran qb in one off-season with little draft capital and even less cap...if I'm Bakers agent, I would have a serious discussion with McVay and Les and ask if they want Baker to take over for Staff at some point in the near future. This team is his best opportunity for his future, IMO.

Actually, Rams have already ‘fixed’ OL twice in one offseason since McVay came on board. In ‘17 and in ‘20. So they have CLEARLY demonstrated the ability to do that.

I agree that it’s looking doubtful that Stafford can play another 4-5 years.

I also like your suggestion about Mayfield’s agent consulting with Rams about Rams QB plans, fwiw. Almost makes too much sense.

 

[PhillyRam]

Actually, Rams have already ‘fixed’ OL twice in one offseason since McVay came on board. In ‘17 and in ‘20. So they have CLEARLY demonstrated the ability to do that.

I agree that it’s looking doubtful that Stafford can play another 4-5 years.

I also like your suggestion about Mayfield’s agent consulting with Rams about Rams QB plans, fwiw. Almost makes too much sense.

Stafford's longevity will hinge on McVay's philosophy and the Rams ability to run the ball.

If they can put him in position to throw 25 passes a game, looking for 3 or 4 big plays and being able to put together big drives when needed, in support of a great running attack, there is no reason why he couldn't play out his contract.

If McVay wants to throw it or has to throw it 35-40 times a game, then he will be cooked in 2 yrs or less.

 

[majrleaged]

I like mayfield as our back up. I do not want him as our QB1 after Stafford. He will always disapoint in the long run.

 

[I like Rams]

Actually, Rams have already ‘fixed’ OL twice in one offseason since McVay came on board. In ‘17 and in ‘20. So they have CLEARLY demonstrated the ability to do that.

I agree that it’s looking doubtful that Stafford can play another 4-5 years.

I also like your suggestion about Mayfield’s agent consulting with Rams about Rams QB plans, fwiw. Almost makes too much sense.

I'll agree with 2017 with the oline, but I contribute no injuries to the oline success of 2020. Actually health has been our success since McVay has been here when it comes to the oline. Which I understand, shit happens, but when it happens, it exposes our lack of depth, and thsts all we really have to rely on atm. Right now allen and boom look more like liabilities than starters we can rely on, Hav is getting up there in age, people want Edward's gone (don't know why), and Jackson who looked very good has blood clot issues. Lots of question marks.

 

[PhillyRam]

I'll agree with 2017 with the oline, but I contribute no injuries to the oline success of 2020. Actually health has been our success since McVay has been here when it comes to the oline. Which I understand, shit happens, but when it happens, it exposes our lack of depth, and thsts all we really have to rely on atm. Right now allen and boom look more like liabilities than starters we can rely on, Hav is getting up there in age, people want Edward's gone (don't know why), and Jackson who looked very good has blood clot issues. Lots of question marks.

In regards to this yr, no team can lose 7 OL by mid-season and survive. No team has enough depth behind their top 7 to field 4 more starting OL. Teams d8bt even carry more than 9 OL on their active roster.

So I won't blame lack of depth fir the issues this yr. Now maybe they lack a couple of durable starters, but no tram is deep enough to survive what they went through.

The Eagles only lost their RT and struggled a bit for the 2 games he missed.

 

[I like Rams]

In regards to this yr, no team can lose 7 OL by mid-season and survive. No team has enough depth behind their top 7 to field 4 more starting OL. Teams d8bt even carry more than 9 OL on their active roster.

So I won't blame lack of depth fir the issues this yr. Now maybe they lack a couple of durable starters, but no tram is deep enough to survive what they went through.

The Eagles only lost their RT and struggled a bit for the 2 games he missed.

100%. This year set a league record for oline injuries, but a couple of those injuries were to players who are no stranger to being injured.

 

[dieterbrock]

if I'm Bakers agent,

I'm signing for the most guaranteed money, in the spot that offers most playing time
The only kind of agent who would prefer their player to take low $$, and a backup role is the "fired agent"

 

[Ellard80]

I'm signing for the most guaranteed money, in the spot that offers most playing time
The only kind of agent who would prefer their player to take low $$, and a backup role is the "fired agent"

He isn't going to get more than a backup offer.. but there are teams where as a 2nd stringer he might have a better chance of playing.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Yeah

100%. This year set a league record for oline injuries, but a couple of those injuries were to players who are no stranger to being injured.

Yeah. I’m more concerned about the quality of our starters than the quality of our depth.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I don’t see Baker coming back. Too many opportunities for him to play in 2023, as opposed to being behind Stafford.

Hopefully he garners a comp pick and we can get Mike White.

 

[oldnotdead]

If anyone should know it's Mayfield. Being signed as a possible starter doesn't mean you will be muchless will stay one.

If Snead and McVay tell him to play understudy to one of the best QBs at reading defenses for a year. Learn the offense, work with the receivers while he backs up Stafford in 2023 to take over in 2024 I think would keep him with the Rams. His best chance for a ring is here and I think he sees it.

To say I'm concerned about Stafford's health is an understatement. There is no way I see him playing 3 more years. He will be lucky to finish 2023. He is one concussion from being a career ender. But equally disturbing is his chronic tendonitis. It really showed last year with poorly thrown deep passes.

If Mayfield moves on, IMO the Rams will be shopping for a new QB next year. IMO no more 1 year rental retreads. Without a good QB2 this team is really gambling on Stafford's health this year. That IMO is a poor bet when you have options to mitigating it going into the season.

 

[So Ram]

If anyone should know it's Mayfield. Being signed as a possible starter doesn't mean you will be muchless will stay one.

If Snead and McVay tell him to play understudy to one of the best QBs at reading defenses for a year. Learn the offense, work with the receivers while he backs up Stafford in 2023 to take over in 2024 I think would keep him with the Rams. His best chance for a ring is here and I think he sees it.

To say I'm concerned about Stafford's health is an understatement. There is no way I see him playing 3 more years. He will be lucky to finish 2023. He is one concussion from being a career ender. But equally disturbing is his chronic tendonitis. It really showed last year with poorly thrown deep passes.

If Mayfield moves on, IMO the Rams will be shopping for a new QB next year. IMO no more 1 year rental retreads. Without a good QB2 this team is really gambling on Stafford's health this year. That IMO is a poor bet when you have options to mitigating it going into the season.

I’ll continue to say - good luck with Baker stay with The Rams.

 

[Flatlyner]

The line was actually blocking pretty well for Baker near the end of the year and he still only cracked over 80 QBR once, and that was against the Broncos. We did whatever we wanted against them that week for some reason. Bakers a real nice back up, but, I would not be terribly excited about him being the starter going forward after Staff. Hopefully, Hooker falls to the 4th or something and we nab him. Not holding my breath though.

 

[BonifayRam]

Actually, Rams have already ‘fixed’ OL twice in one offseason since McVay came on board. In ‘17 and in ‘20. So they have CLEARLY demonstrated the ability to do that.

I agree that it’s looking doubtful that Stafford can play another 4-5 years.

I also like your suggestion about Mayfield’s agent consulting with Rams about Rams QB plans, fwiw. Almost makes too much sense.

In 2018, the Rams o-line succeeded together, finishing sixth in PFF’s o-line rankings.

"One of the more significant reasons for their offensive lull. Most notably, center John Sullivan’s play fell off a cliff down the stretch".

In 2019, the Rams o-line failed together, finishing 31st.
2019 initial OL
LT-Whitworth
LG-Noteboom/Edwards
OC- Allen
RG-Blythe
RT-Havenstein/Evans

Rams' offensive line has the worst PFF grade in the NFL

The Los Angeles Rams have had the worst offensive line the NFL this season, and it shows.

theramswire.usatoday.com

2020 initial OL
LT-Whitworth/Noteboom
LG-Noteboom/Edwards
OC-Blythe
RG-Corbett
RT-Havenstein/

Surprisingly, Joe Noteboom ranked low at SIS, posting 14 blown blocks and three penalties in 575 snaps.

Worst to first? LA Rams offensive line ranking should surprise nobody

The LA Rams 31st ranked offensive line of 2019 is ranked the best in the NFL at run blocking in 2020 and third-best at pass blocking.

ramblinfan.com

 

[Flatlyner]

Goes to show you how important a good/above avg guard can be. And Allen being out lol