GAME DAY Rams at Eagles - Divisional Championship

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bwdenverram

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Disagree again. You don't have to call a run behind Limmer.

I can't be convinced that they couldn't pick up 3 yards in 2 downs.

Agree to disagree on the play call.

I'm hoping they bring in some competition for Limmer. Maybe Jackson.
On this play I would have left KW in to help with max protection for this very issue. That extra 1-2 seconds gives Stafford the time to see the wide open man.
Didn't happen and our season is over. But the play call was right, the protection was not. It happens, sadly. And for us at the worst time possible.
 

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Well, we needed to be able to score more points than 2 offensive touchdowns. Was a problem most of the season. Giving up 28 was also a bit much considering the few points we gave up the last few games excluding the last game of the year.
That's fair. But we also gave up 22 in reality. I say that because two turnoves inside our 30 ended up in 6 points. Which is pretty good considering the D didn't give up 7 on either of those.
But Barkley in two games rushed for over 400 yards. That's the real issue. You can't give up 4 plays to one guy that are 60 yard + TD runs. That's just nuts.
 

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It appears he thought Dotson would take him, while Dotson thought he'd take him. So Limmer doubled the other DT, and Dotson doubled the DE. Maybe Dotson was in the wrong on that play. Who knows. But Limmer is the guy who had his hand on Carter and then turned away. Frankly, I'm not sure why we aren't doubling Carter on that play. Should have been Limmer and Dotson. But I'm not the guy calling the plays or the protections.
I'm surprised this isn't getting more attention. Dotson didn't block anyone on that play. Havenstein took the D-end 1 on 1 while Dotson watched. Maybe Limmer was expecting help. Who knows. But Dotson sure could have picked up Carter after he blew past Limmer.
 

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Almost have to ask the Oline coach why this happened.
I do think a change at OL coach is needed. His lines start slow as fuck every season. Now some of that is inevitably McVay's preseason approach. But still there are scrimmages and pad work in camp to get them ready.

McVay has had a legit OL coach moonlighting and assisting for a couple years now. It is time to make the change and hire him.
 

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As oldschool said - if you watch the tape.

On the play Stafford was sacked - Higbee's man slipped in the snow.

He was wide open.
 

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What run is going to be successful when your Center literally turns their best DT loose? It's going to be a loss. Hell, for all we know, Carter explodes into the backfield, punches the ball out of Kyren's hands, and the Eagles recover the fumble. Game over.

The chances of Limmer blowing the assignment and not blocking Carter were very low to start. The play was there. No point in MMQBing it. Limmer made a huge mistake at the worst time. That's football.
Gotta agree Limmer completely fucked up here, no way around it. Damn we were so close. Excellent play call by McVay but shitty blocking doomed it. As others have said, leaving a back to block may have helped.
 

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Gotta agree Limmer completely fucked up here, no way around it. Damn we were so close. Excellent play call by McVay but shitty blocking doomed it. As others have said, leaving a back to block may have helped.
If we left the back in, the LB covering him wouldn't have run to the flats. Kyren helped clear out the middle of the field for Higbee.
 

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I disagree with people blaming Limmer for the loss. It hurts to see those replays with Higbee running wide open after his man slips in the snow. But handing the Eagles free points by turning the ball over twice in our own red zone or close to it was the bigger difference. You cannot win games in the playoffs losing the turnover battle that badly. Period. You can definitely give up a sack or two and still win. Even if those sacks come on key downs. And let's not forget missing our run D assignments not once, not twice, but 3x for long and uncontested and easy TD runs. Guys like Barkley will find a way. But it happened way too often. Plus all the dropped passes (though the snow was a big factor there). Or the failure to convert on several 3rd and 1s to extend drives and give ourselves a chance a points.

We lost because we shot ourselves in the foot over and over and over again. Philly did not. They played way more buttoned up. Limmer's failure to block Carter was just another self-inflicted wound in a long list. But no the most impactful IMO. It just feels that way because it stopped yet another lengendary Stafford comeback.

Limmer is a rookie and will only improve. The Rams don't seem to value the C position much. We don't sink prime draft capital or free agent money into it. Zero way we move on from him IMO. And I am happy with that. He adds serious beef up front, and with some more seasoning, will be a well above average C on a very cheap contract.
 

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If we left the back in, the LB covering him wouldn't have run to the flats. Kyren helped clear out the middle of the field for Higbee.
Possibly, but would have given Staford a better opportunity than he had. I know ultimately Limmer should have made that block regardless. Just sucks that we were so fucking close.
 

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I disagree with people blaming Limmer for the loss. It hurts to see those replays with Higbee running wide open after his man slips in the snow. But handing the Eagles free points by turning the ball over twice in our own red zone or close to it was the bigger difference. You cannot win games in the playoffs losing the turnover battle that badly. Period. You can definitely give up a sack or two and still win. Even if those sacks come on key downs. And let's not forget missing our run D assignments not once, not twice, but 3x for long and uncontested and easy TD runs. Guys like Barkley will find a way. But it happened way too often. Plus all the dropped passes (though the snow was a big factor there). Or the failure to convert on several 3rd and 1s to extend drives and give ourselves a chance a points.

We lost because we shot ourselves in the foot over and over and over again. Philly did not. They played way more buttoned up. Limmer's failure to block Carter was just another self-inflicted wound in a long list. But no the most impactful IMO. It just feels that way because it stopped yet another lengendary Stafford comeback.

Limmer is a rookie and will only improve. The Rams don't seem to value the C position much. We don't sink prime draft capital or free agent money into it. Zero way we move on from him IMO. And I am happy with that. He adds serious beef up front, and with some more seasoning, will be a well above average C on a very cheap contract.
Not blaming Limmer for the loss but he fucked up the comeback possibility on that play, there's no denying that. Any game has multiple critical plays that can change the outcome. I'd blame Kyren way more for fucking up with that fumble as we had the momentum. Ah well, another opportunity wasted.
 

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I disagree with people blaming Limmer for the loss.
It's a team loss. If the defense didn't give up three long rushing TDs, if Kyren and Stafford didn't fumble the ball, if Puka and Higbee didn't drop passes on the same drive, if McVay kept them in hurry up mode instead of huddling on the last drive, and so on and so forth. There were a lot of self-inflicted errors. Limmer made two of them. But he wasn't the only guy who screwed up. It took a lot of mistakes to lose that game, which is unfortunate. Because it speaks to how close we were to winning it.
 

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if McVay kept them in hurry up mode instead of huddling on the last drive

I'm pretty sure they didn't want to leave too much time on the clock. As it was, if Higbee had scored there was still more then a minute on the clock. More than enough time for the Eagles to drive for the winning fg.

Although the Rams d was custom built for that situation. It would have been nice seeing the dline harass hurts while he tried to make plays with his arm.

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ok so i jumped to the end of the thread...

geeze guys, we almost won a game we were heavy underdogs in...

yes fumbles were a problem... but we came that close to overcoming them...

thank you rams for a great run... we were that close to getting it done...

geese... i'm really proud of this team... nuff said

go rams

slo
 

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That sack on hurts at the end of the half where he fumbled could have been a scoop and score by us. Eagles recovered the fumble. They fumbled twice, we fumbled 3 times. Difference was they recovered theirs and we lost two of ours. Lose two fumbles on the road in the playoffs and you usually lose. Same the year we played in Washington and Dickerson was running wild but lost two fumbles.