Rams and Aaron Donald working on extension

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That's the cost of a QB these days. Give him $40m... what's the alternative?
 

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That's the cost of a QB these days. Give him $40m... what's the alternative?
Every time I discuss QB salaries, it brings up my idea from years ago (which makes even MORE sense every year), that QB salaries should NOT hit the cap.

We treat them differently when they're hit low, incidental contact with their helmets when trying to bat down a ball, when they slide, etc. Why can't we just admit they're a different beast and don't need to be 25+% of the freaking cap.

Let the QB position be like a coach's salary, you want to overpay, go for it!
 

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Every time I discuss QB salaries, it brings up my idea from years ago (which makes even MORE sense every year), that QB salaries should NOT hit the cap.

We treat them differently when they're hit low, incidental contact with their helmets when trying to bat down a ball, when they slide, etc. Why can't we just admit they're a different beast and don't need to be 25+% of the freaking cap.

Let the QB position be like a coach's salary, you want to overpay, go for it!

The % of the Cap taken up by the QB is not dramatically different than it has ever been. The cap rises, the QB $$$$ numbers rise, but normally within proportion.

This last couple covid years may have fucked that a little bit.
 

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Line up Donald/Stafford/Miller/OBJ with off season WalMart greeter jobs for $10m /year. A la Brady and his “off the books” deals with Robert Kraft.
 

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I don't think the Rams have much choice but to paid Stafford, and he is one heck of a QB so he will be worth it. But if he wants to be the highest paid QB in the NFL, that is disappointing. He is extremely good, but not numero uno. Too many interceptions in very harmful areas. I don't mind picks in and of themselves. You need to have the guts to throw into tight windows to win and succeed. INTs are, ironically, a by-product of a great QB . Burrow, Herbert, Mahomes... all great QBs will throw their fair share. Go look at the leaders in INTs. The guys throwing the most are all outstanding QBs. But Stafford seems to throw them in the most harmful spots (red zone, and inside his own 20). And seems to throw a bit more than others in terms of sheer volume.

He also has an injury history, seems to under throw the deep-ball with some regularity, and misses and/or throws behind wide open WRs far more than Goff ever did, for all of Jared's faults.

Amazing QB. And the Rams have to pay him. But if he is seeking to be the top paid QB, as some suggest, again, a bit disappointing.
 

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And the Rams have to pay him. But if he is seeking to be the top paid QB, as some suggest, again, a bit disappointing.
Why? The Rams just won a SB because of him.
Point is, the next QB to sign an extension will likely become the highest paid QB. That's how it works
Does he "deserve" more than Josh Allen? Dak Prescott? Deshaun Watson?
Dont see how the answer can be no.
 

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Man I know this is a bit odd topic but damn, I get it if either one of those guys was severely underpaid. Donald is top 5 in salary which is good. Greed always wins out in these cases but I guess that's the norm in the league. QB salaries have completely gone off the rails too. Wish some of that cash flow came down to us regular folks for successful, profitable companies we work with one day.....lol fat chance tho
 

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Man I know this is a bit odd topic but damn, I get it if either one of those guys was severely underpaid. Donald is top 5 in salary which is good.

And he’s been top 5 for 3 seasons. He’s been taken care of by the Rams.

How should AD be paid more when there is close to zero chance his production becomes better?

You make a valid point. He’ll be 31 next season.

This roster is loaded with stars… it feels like a house of cards thinking of all these big contracts.
 

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Every time I discuss QB salaries, it brings up my idea from years ago (which makes even MORE sense every year), that QB salaries should NOT hit the cap.

We treat them differently when they're hit low, incidental contact with their helmets when trying to bat down a ball, when they slide, etc. Why can't we just admit they're a different beast and don't need to be 25+% of the freaking cap.

Let the QB position be like a coach's salary, you want to overpay, go for it!
I don't think it's feasible. Without the QB salary hitting the cap their salaries on the open market will skyrocket and the richest owner will always have the best player at the most important position.

Hence no more parity, which is the entire point of the salary cap in the first place.
 

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I don't think it's feasible. Without the QB salary hitting the cap their salaries on the open market will skyrocket and the richest owner will always have the best player at the most important position.

Hence no more parity, which is the entire point of the salary cap in the first place.
You don't have to remove it entirely from the cap though. Make it a function where it's not counted on the cap but it's set to a maximum of the current cap. That way it's not an open free for all so to speak for QB's there's still a structure. Honestly this doesn't really change anything it just raises the cap it's just more games and manipulations of it.
 

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How should AD be paid more when there is close to zero chance his production becomes better?
Reality is they will likely be paying him a few yrs after he is gone so his cap hit won't be bad now while they can win.

It's the price of doing business.

Now, if we were really a cut throat team, you trade him now for two #1's if you could get that or more likely maybe a #1, #2, & #4.

Now, they would not do that nor should they, but Belichick probably would.
 

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Bio says he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Actually, you are incorrect. It was a Holiday Inn Express! No frills and day old donuts for your continental breakfast.
 

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oh well.

"we need to bring back miller and obj" has changed to "gimme my money".

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Yeah I'm so thankful they got this done in year one. Greed does have a level where it could cost this team a real shot at repeat. But also it comes down to creative caponomics so gonna wait and see how this all falls out.

Been saying they need to make tough decisions though. The solid types who are up for FA are gone basically. And the Rams may need to move a player or two they really like.
 

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Cut his cap number, extend some of his pay out and give him a small % of the team based on years played going forward. Nothing like a little piece of a $4.8 Billion dollar pie and a cut of revenue from now till the end of time.
I have no idea if a deal like this would be allowed under the rules.
 

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Yeah I'm so thankful they got this done in year one. Greed does have a level where it could cost this team a real shot at repeat. But also it comes down to creative caponomics so gonna wait and see how this all falls out.

Been saying they need to make tough decisions though. The solid types who are up for FA are gone basically. And the Rams may need to move a player or two they really like.
With extending AD and Stafford, it makes me wonder it they'll be able to sign anyone outside of Miller and OBJ.