Rams: (#13) 1st Round QB Ty Simpson SIGNED

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Fans should expect a QB drafted 13th overall to become the franchise QB. Fans should bury their GM if he drafts a bust at that slot.
Lol- such a ridiculous take. There would be no GMs left to ever work again if so. The draft is and also ways will be subject to risk. Even the best drafting GMs are guessing/projecting and hoping. It’s like baseball - 3 out of 10 gets you in the HOF.
 
The Rams took their shot at a RD1 QB. It's not the end of the world if he doesn't work out.

This is the same organization who's mantra is F them picks.

We find all world WR's in the 5th round and excellent players in later rounds (KW, Turner, Young, Jackson, Mclendon).

We will make a trade at a moments notice as we did with Stafford and Garrett and send Former firsts packing (Goff and Verse).

When you have a top tier organization, coach and system, you can take shots and pivot if needed.

Again, we literally traded for a QB who had 1 pro bowl in 12 seasons and turned him into an MVP and Super Bowl winner.

If Simpson don't work out we have other ways of getting our next QB.
 
The Rams took their shot at a RD1 QB. It's not the end of the world if he doesn't work out.

This is the same organization who's mantra is F them picks.

We find all world WR's in the 5th round and excellent players in later rounds (KW, Turner, Young, Jackson, Mclendon).

We will make a trade at a moments notice as we did with Stafford and Garrett and send Former firsts packing (Goff and Verse).

When you have a top tier organization, coach and system, you can take shots and pivot if needed.

Again, we literally traded for a QB who had 1 pro bowl in 12 seasons and turned him into an MVP and Super Bowl winner.

If Simpson don't work out we have other ways of getting our next QB.
The funniest part of the conversation even happening is people worrying about if he'll work out after 3 preseason games. Not pointing at you just saying this whole thing is crazy to be going on right now.
 
I get disappointment on failed picks, but I don't agree with the "every pick should be a hit" mentality.
That's a strawman's argument, because I've never claimed that every pick Snead and McVay have made needed to hit. No one is a true expert when it comes to the draft. Snead and McVay have both a series of outstanding draft outcomes and a number of draft blunders over the years.

It is precisely because no GM always makes the correct move that it is rational to consider the possibility that the Rams didn't play the correct card when they decided to draft Simpson. When other NFL teams make QB decisions (e.g. trading up for Mahomes, drafting Josh Allen, taking Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, Winston vs Mariota) I have opinions about those moves. Often, I've been spectacularly wrong and things turned out better than I thought. I wouldn't have drafted Josh Allen so high, for example.

If the shoe is on the other foot and the Rams are the team making the pick instead of let's say the Niners drafting Trey Lance or the Cards taking Kyler Murray (when was the last time the Seahawks drafted a QB high? I can't think of it off the top of my head. How about Rick Mirer vs Drew Bledsoe?) are we supposed to not talk about it or have opinions about it? I think that's weird.

It was okay for Eagles fans to hate on the Donovan McNabb pick when it was made. Those fans weren't right about the pick in the long run, but that's their prerogative.

In the Goff/Wentz draft, the Rams originally held the 15th overall slot. We had almost this exact same debate prior to trading up with the Titans, whether to go QB at that slot. At the time, I was strongly against the idea.

I consider it to be a "cheerleader fan" mentality to just go along with whatever team leadership wants to do, no questions asked.
 
The funniest part of the conversation even happening is people worrying about if he'll work out after 3 preseason games. Not pointing at you just saying this whole thing is crazy to be going on right now.
As I alluded to below, when McNabb was drafted, he was booed on stage. When the Houston Texans drafted JJ Watt, some of their fans were crushed. Watch some video of draft parties and how fans reacted to the announcement. They thought it was a terrible pick. The staff for the Texans was split down the middle and in an interview after the fact, it was disclosed that even the half that pushed for drafting Watt didn't know he'd be such a great player. It was similar to the Ray Lewis pick where the Ravens didn't really know what they were getting at the time they made the pick.
 
That's a strawman's argument, because I've never claimed that every pick Snead and McVay have made needed to hit. No one is a true expert when it comes to the draft. Snead and McVay have both a series of outstanding draft outcomes and a number of draft blunders over the years.

It is precisely because no GM always makes the correct move that it is rational to consider the possibility that the Rams didn't play the correct card when they decided to draft Simpson. When other NFL teams make QB decisions (e.g. trading up for Mahomes, drafting Josh Allen, taking Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, Winston vs Mariota) I have opinions about those moves. Often, I've been spectacularly wrong and things turned out better than I thought. I wouldn't have drafted Josh Allen so high, for example.

If the shoe is on the other foot and the Rams are the team making the pick instead of let's say the Niners drafting Trey Lance or the Cards taking Kyler Murray (when was the last time the Seahawks drafted a QB high? I can't think of it off the top of my head. How about Rick Mirer vs Drew Bledsoe?) are we supposed to not talk about it or have opinions about it? I think that's weird.

It was okay for Eagles fans to hate on the Donovan McNabb pick when it was made. Those fans weren't right about the pick in the long run, but that's their prerogative.

In the Goff/Wentz draft, the Rams originally held the 15th overall slot. We had almost this exact same debate prior to trading up with the Titans, whether to go QB at that slot. At the time, I was strongly against the idea.

I consider it to be a "cheerleader fan" mentality to just go along with whatever team leadership wants to do, no questions asked.

It's no more of a strawman argument than your position when you said you don't agree with the "oh well, other 1st rd QBs busted too" mentality.

I don't have a problem with fans having opinions and questioning things, but they should be clear-eyed in their expectations. There will be failed picks. This realization doesn't excuse failed picks when they happen or lesson the disappointment, but it does help to not blow one failure out of proportion.

I feel I set forth a pretty good standard: judge the GM on the overall track record. Bury him when he fails often.
 
I don't have a problem with fans having opinions and questioning things, but they should be clear-eyed in their expectations.
From my POV, the idea that we can't say seem to say anything even mildly critical about Simpson or his selection is what isn't clear-eyed and reasonable.

We don't know if Simpson will be fantastic, medium or below average, but I think it is a mistake to minimize what's potentially at stake. When the Steelers drafted Kenny Pickett 20th overall, many people said they reached too early. I didn't have a big problem with the pick at the time, precisely due to what we've been talking about, how QBs drafted in the bottom half of the 1st round often don't work out great anyway. We're not talking about the Steelers blowing a top 10 pick. Still, it ended up being a big deal for them, because the very next player taken in that draft after Pickett was Trent McDuffie. Even without the benefit of hindsight, another strong candidate at that slot would have been Tyler Linderbaum.

Partly due to trading away so many 1st round picks, Simpson is the only pick the Rams have made in the top half of the 1st round in the McVay era and only one of 2 first round picks the Rams have made during that period. How this pick turns out is a big deal; it isn't an insignificant event.
 
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Dude is making it to his 3rd and 4th reads, as a rookie. He has a big enough arm, moves very well and appears to me as smart as a whip and motivated.
Comes from a solid family. He will be fine.
 
Like perform as the best QB in the preseason, including the #1 pick? We're calling that "nice things"? Tough crowd.



We knew what his physical talent was when we drafted him. There's no surprise here.
He has superior mental processing talent, which IMO is the highest quality a QB should have.

How far along did you expect him to be? He had eight college starts. Besides the fact that the Rams always intended to bring him along slowly. It's possible he would be further along if they were trying to rush him. You said we could have a reasonable discussion, but so far, judging from your first two points, I'm not sensing you have reasonable expectations.



I disagree. He's not ready to carry an offense, but he could serve as a game manager QB now. Obviously, we want more for him, but the Rams would survive for a couple of games now if he were thrust into action.



This is the crux of your argument. I don't necessarily disagree. On one hand, 13 seemed a bit rich. On the other hand, if they think he has the ability to develop into a top-tier QB, 13 is a fine place to get him. Anything better than a top 15 QB warrants a top 10, maybe a top 5, pick. You like odds. Check the odds on that.



I disagree here, too. He has the potential to be better than a top 15 QB. I could see him having a career as good as Goff, who at his height, has been ranked by GMs and coaches as a top 8 QB. I'm also not buying the whole 'he has to go to McVay or Payton' thing.
Only thing I'm not so sure about is this game manager part. Playing well in the preseason is way different than playing against other teams starters plus D coordinators throwing exotic things his way. It wouldn't surprise me if Simpson had his struggles if called into duty because well he's a rookie. Hopefully we never have to find out because then that means Stafford is hurt.
 
Dude is making it to his 3rd and 4th reads, as a rookie. He has a big enough arm, moves very well and appears to me as smart as a whip and motivated.
Comes from a solid family. He will be fine.
Yup because the preseason says it all lol....its ok to be excited about what's been seen so far but let's all be fair and let time tell the story. Fitzgerald was smart as a QB yet never really amounted to a reliable starter, motivation is good to have but I'm sure many other QBs had that and failed. Coming from a solid family means nothing so not sure why that matters. No one truly knows what the kid will be but I'm simply going to watch and hope he develops into what McVay wants. When Simpson's time truly comes, we'll see if he can put it all together.
 
Right!? Before the Simpson selection, I was asking those who weren't in favor of drafting him what their plan would be to get a potential franchise QB. There were literally no good options presented. I think the best plan was 'hope and pray' - hope that someone good falls to the 30th range in the 2027 draft.
Impossible to get a clear answer to what you were asking since no one knows the future. For example, Baker Mayfield may be available if the Bucs keep low balling him. I honestly wouldn't have thought that would be possible since he seemed to be a good fit there. We still had our first for next year at that time, but no one knew we'd be getting rid of our 1st to get Myles Garrett either. If we had kept that first and the Rams had an unlucky year health wise, they'd possibly be picking high again. I'm not wishing that or saying that's a plan, but simply saying, crazy shit we don't forsee sometimes happens.
 
I'm sure he needs improvement in many areas. But the fact he "speeds through his reads" is certainly better than can't get through his reads. Or locks onto his first read.

I'm sure film study will teach him patience. Obviously this offense is new to him and so are the intricacies of how plays should develop.
So basically what y'all are saying is he needs the game to slow down lol... Don't leave out learning what defenses are trying to do to him. That part will take time, as it does for most QBs, as I think that part is the biggest challenge for any QB. Feel like I always hear the best QBs are the ones that have pretty much seen it all in terms of defenses played against them. Can't fool them.
 
The Rams took their shot at a RD1 QB. It's not the end of the world if he doesn't work out.

This is the same organization who's mantra is F them picks.

We find all world WR's in the 5th round and excellent players in later rounds (KW, Turner, Young, Jackson, Mclendon).

We will make a trade at a moments notice as we did with Stafford and Garrett and send Former firsts packing (Goff and Verse).

When you have a top tier organization, coach and system, you can take shots and pivot if needed.

Again, we literally traded for a QB who had 1 pro bowl in 12 seasons and turned him into an MVP and Super Bowl winner.

If Simpson don't work out we have other ways of getting our next QB.
That last part is why I never understood why some folks felt QB was the only route to go with the #13 pick. I'm not trying to start a debate of who we should have taken but acknowledging that this organization would find some way to get a QB that could play ball if we hadn't drafted Simpson. We are talking about a front office that has pulled some crazy ass trades off. Obviously they did draft the kid and I agree, it isn't the end of the world if he doesn't pan out but no matter what missing on a 1st round pick sucks. By the way, think you are underrating Stafford, he was already an established good ass QB, he just happened to play for the sorry ass Detroit Lions.
 
Lol- such a ridiculous take. There would be no GMs left to ever work again if so. The draft is and also ways will be subject to risk. Even the best drafting GMs are guessing/projecting and hoping. It’s like baseball - 3 out of 10 gets you in the HOF.
I never said the GM should get fired. Bill Belichick drafted Mac Jones. Ozzie Newsome is arguably the greatest GM of all time. He traded up for Kyle Boller.

The Baltimore Ravens had a phenomenal defense and a great rushing attack during Boller's tenure. Newsome's mistake, later led them to pass on drafting Aaron Rodgers. It conceivably cost the Ravens multiple Super Bowls. So, even though overall Newsome has one of the best resumes of any GM and was the central reason the Ravens won multiple SBs and had such great success, he also deserves to be heavily criticized for his pursuit of Boller. There were big warning signs at the time of that draft that he was overvaluing Boller.
 
Stafford, he was already an established good ass QB, he just happened to play for the sorry ass Detroit Lions.
The team/support structure is very important. I've always believed that if SF had actually drafted ARod over Alex Smith, that ARod would have failed with the Niners. When Smith was considered to be a bust with SF, I felt at the time that he was better than the media said and was being blamed for things going on around him that weren't within his control. Once he got into a better situation (Andy Reid strikes again), Smith showed that he could be a good starting QB. If Tom Brady had swapped places with Tim Couch, I think Brady would have failed with Cleveland. Same with Kurt Warner if he had gone there in the expansion draft. If Big Ben had gone to Cleveland instead of the Steelers, I think he would have failed there.

Just assume for discussion that Ty Simpson eventually becomes exactly as good as ARod. Remember, ARod had a losing record his first season as a starter on a good GB team, even after all those years sitting behind Favre. If ARod had been stuck on a bad team his entire career, he never would have been an MVP type QB.

The Rams have a very strong roster right now, but if the timeline for Simpson is about 4 years from now, who knows what the Rams will look like at that point? Myles Garrett turns 31 later this season. Puka Nacua will be 29 in 4 years and many WRs decline once they hit 30. We're assuming the Rams and McVay will still have things rolling by the time Simpson takes the reins, but there's no guarantee that will be the case.

About 5 to 6 years from now, the roles could be reversed and some of the same fans on Simpson's band wagon or adopting a wait-and-see approach might have given up on him and are ready to kick him to the curb and I might be the one saying "Hold on, study the tape, he's not as bad as his reputation. He's taking the heat for some things that aren't his fault." We could have similar debates right now about guys like Justin Herbert, CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, etc. After his rookie year, many people were saying that Stroud was on the verge of being an MVP QB and on his way to the HOF. Now, he might be fighting just to remain a starting QB. Who is the real CJ Stroud? Is he good or not good? Forget one year or one game, he's played 3 seasons and the jury still could be out on exactly what the Houston Texans drafted.
 
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Playing well in the preseason is way different than playing against other teams starters plus D coordinators throwing exotic things his way. It wouldn't surprise me if Simpson had his struggles if called into duty because well he's a rookie. Hopefully we never have to find out because then that means Stafford is hurt.
Very fair. If you watch most of the preseason plays, there is zero disguise by the defense. Vanilla coverages where the pre-snap look is exactly what the defense plays post-snap, extremely easy for the QB to read. NFL teams don't do that in the regular season. It is a huge red flag if a QB is terrible in pre-season but not as much of a predictor if a QB does great, because most QBs would look good in a preseason game.

Simpson has happy feet in the pocket and sometimes will either leave good pockets or unnecessarily turn his shoulders and move inside of the pocket, causing him not to be throw-ready. This impacts his progression reading, because even if he sees a route coming open, his body isn't ready to throw the pass. Drake Maye had a much bigger issue with this than Simpson when Maye came out of college, yet Maye led his team to the Super Bowl last year. I think it could take time to synch Simpson's feet with his eyes so that the physical and mental part align and he delivers accurate and strong passes on schedule. Once he "gets it" and learns to recenter himself in the pocket more efficiently, I think the game will "slow down" for him and he'll be more consistent. Build his confidence and let him develop step-by-step, slowly.

If he doesn't play at all the rest of 2026, watch his feet next preseason. Everyone wants to watch the football coming out of the QB's hands, but I feel one of the big keys to unlocking Simpson's full potential is how his feet move inside of the pocket and when the initial part of the scramble when he decides to extend the play outside of the pocket.
 
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Yup because the preseason says it all lol....its ok to be excited about what's been seen so far but let's all be fair and let time tell the story. Fitzgerald was smart as a QB yet never really amounted to a reliable starter, motivation is good to have but I'm sure many other QBs had that and failed. Coming from a solid family means nothing so not sure why that matters. No one truly knows what the kid will be but I'm simply going to watch and hope he develops into what McVay wants. When Simpson's time truly comes, we'll see if he can put it all together.
Fitzgerald?
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I would have faith that McVay good take Simpson's mobility strength and scheme up a 20 pt per game offense that could win a few games if Stafford misses time.
 
As I alluded to below, when McNabb was drafted, he was booed on stage.

Pardon my french but who the fuck cares. Again this whole discussion of criticizing Ty because of random nonsense is comical. Man has played a couple of games and people are using stupid shit like McNabb etc etc to justify criticizing a rookie after a couple preseason games.

I had more typed out but deleted it because these last few pages have proven people don't actually listen to our coach and probably aren't being objective when watching the player.