Lol- such a ridiculous take. There would be no GMs left to ever work again if so. The draft is and also ways will be subject to risk. Even the best drafting GMs are guessing/projecting and hoping. It’s like baseball - 3 out of 10 gets you in the HOF.
The funniest part of the conversation even happening is people worrying about if he'll work out after 3 preseason games. Not pointing at you just saying this whole thing is crazy to be going on right now.
Agreed. Judging any player after their first preseason is wild.
That's a strawman's argument, because I've never claimed that every pick Snead and McVay have made needed to hit. No one is a true expert when it comes to the draft. Snead and McVay have both a series of outstanding draft outcomes and a number of draft blunders over the years.
As I alluded to below, when McNabb was drafted, he was booed on stage. When the Houston Texans drafted JJ Watt, some of their fans were crushed. Watch some video of draft parties and how fans reacted to the announcement. They thought it was a terrible pick. The staff for the Texans was split down the middle and in an interview after the fact, it was disclosed that even the half that pushed for drafting Watt didn't know he'd be such a great player. It was similar to the Ray Lewis pick where the Ravens didn't really know what they were getting at the time they made the pick.
From my POV, the idea that we can't say seem to say anything even mildly critical about Simpson or his selection is what isn't clear-eyed and reasonable.
Only thing I'm not so sure about is this game manager part. Playing well in the preseason is way different than playing against other teams starters plus D coordinators throwing exotic things his way. It wouldn't surprise me if Simpson had his struggles if called into duty because well he's a rookie. Hopefully we never have to find out because then that means Stafford is hurt.
Yup because the preseason says it all lol....its ok to be excited about what's been seen so far but let's all be fair and let time tell the story. Fitzgerald was smart as a QB yet never really amounted to a reliable starter, motivation is good to have but I'm sure many other QBs had that and failed. Coming from a solid family means nothing so not sure why that matters. No one truly knows what the kid will be but I'm simply going to watch and hope he develops into what McVay wants. When Simpson's time truly comes, we'll see if he can put it all together.
Impossible to get a clear answer to what you were asking since no one knows the future. For example, Baker Mayfield may be available if the Bucs keep low balling him. I honestly wouldn't have thought that would be possible since he seemed to be a good fit there. We still had our first for next year at that time, but no one knew we'd be getting rid of our 1st to get Myles Garrett either. If we had kept that first and the Rams had an unlucky year health wise, they'd possibly be picking high again. I'm not wishing that or saying that's a plan, but simply saying, crazy shit we don't forsee sometimes happens.
So basically what y'all are saying is he needs the game to slow down lol... Don't leave out learning what defenses are trying to do to him. That part will take time, as it does for most QBs, as I think that part is the biggest challenge for any QB. Feel like I always hear the best QBs are the ones that have pretty much seen it all in terms of defenses played against them. Can't fool them.
That last part is why I never understood why some folks felt QB was the only route to go with the #13 pick. I'm not trying to start a debate of who we should have taken but acknowledging that this organization would find some way to get a QB that could play ball if we hadn't drafted Simpson. We are talking about a front office that has pulled some crazy ass trades off. Obviously they did draft the kid and I agree, it isn't the end of the world if he doesn't pan out but no matter what missing on a 1st round pick sucks. By the way, think you are underrating Stafford, he was already an established good ass QB, he just happened to play for the sorry ass Detroit Lions.
I never said the GM should get fired. Bill Belichick drafted Mac Jones. Ozzie Newsome is arguably the greatest GM of all time. He traded up for Kyle Boller.
The team/support structure is very important. I've always believed that if SF had actually drafted ARod over Alex Smith, that ARod would have failed with the Niners. When Smith was considered to be a bust with SF, I felt at the time that he was better than the media said and was being blamed for things going on around him that weren't within his control. Once he got into a better situation (Andy Reid strikes again), Smith showed that he could be a good starting QB. If Tom Brady had swapped places with Tim Couch, I think Brady would have failed with Cleveland. Same with Kurt Warner if he had gone there in the expansion draft. If Big Ben had gone to Cleveland instead of the Steelers, I think he would have failed there.
Very fair. If you watch most of the preseason plays, there is zero disguise by the defense. Vanilla coverages where the pre-snap look is exactly what the defense plays post-snap, extremely easy for the QB to read. NFL teams don't do that in the regular season. It is a huge red flag if a QB is terrible in pre-season but not as much of a predictor if a QB does great, because most QBs would look good in a preseason game.
