Rams #1 on short yardage

[WestCoastRam]

I think many Rams fans underrate his game just because he can’t break long runs.

He’s got the best vision running inside since Faulk. He's got great cuts and timing and he’s not easy to tackle. I would like to see him signed, but I don’t think that’s likely and I think we all will be ruing that decision when the Rams don’t have him.

You know who also had great vision? Cam Akers!

knucklehead.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

You know who also had great vision? Cam Akers!

knucklehead.

You think Akers vision was as good as Kyren’s? We must have watched different games.

 

[OldSchool]

Kyren has only played two seasons.

He's been on the Rs for three years.

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[Elmgrovegnome]

He's been on the Rs for three years.

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He was injured his rookie season and only had 35 carries. Should I have counted that as a zero fumbles season ?

 

[den-the-coach]

He was injured his rookie season and only had 35 carries. Should I have counted that zero fumbles season ?

You better believe it!

 

[Loyal]

Williams also has a fantastic center of gravity, very difficult to knock off his feet. He just needs to hold the ball higher and tighter, which hopefully will result in less fumbles, then he is one of the top RB's in the NFL.

He needs to do the "swing' which is how I dealt with ball security ~ Wendell Tyler

 

[OldSchool]

He was injured his rookie season and only had 35 carries. Should I have counted that as a zero fumbles season ?

And yet he was active for 10 game days. He did get i jured but that's not why he only had 35 carries.

 

[WestCoastRam]

You think Akers vision was as good as Kyren’s? We must have watched different games.

I mean, if we're comparing them against each other, then he's prob a bit worse in vision. But Akers had great vision and a shifty AND smooth running style (better in both categories than Kyren) that I loved. Similar but different running than Kyren.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I mean, if we're comparing them against each other, then he's prob a bit worse in vision. But Akers had great vision and a shifty AND smooth running style (better in both categories than Kyren) that I loved. Similar but different running than Kyren.

Except he wasn’t as productive

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

And yet he was active for 10 game days. He did get i jured but that's not why he only had 35 carries.

So then it’s official. He had a zero fumble season in the books.

 

[OldSchool]

So then it’s official. He had a zero fumble season in the books.

All pro season without a doubt

 

[dieterbrock]

Except he wasn’t as productive

4.0 ypc as a Ram playing behind an o-line which had Whit & Havs while Kyren goes for 4.5 ypc.
Do we bother to bring up the 2 lost fumbles against TB that cost a TD and led to Tommy girl tying up the game late?

 

[majrleaged]

I mean, if we're comparing them against each other, then he's prob a bit worse in vision. But Akers had great vision and a shifty AND smooth running style (better in both categories than Kyren) that I loved. Similar but different running than Kyren.

He did not have great vision. Where Kyren finds an opening, Cam would miss his opening and go the wrong way. It happened over and over. They aren't even comparable.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Except he wasn’t as productive

Fair!

 

[WestCoastRam]

He did not have great vision. Where Kyren finds an opening, Cam would miss his opening and go the wrong way. It happened over and over. They aren't even comparable.

I don't think you know what you're looking at though he may have gotten much worse once the mental side went south with him

 

[CoachAllred]

Kyren Williams, if you need 3 yards, he will get you 5 yards. If you need 10 yards, he will get you 5 yards.

You are point on coach. You need to punch it the endzone from 3 to 4 yds out he is your man.

Don't get me wrong I like Kyren, but there are several stats that show he is not a franchise back.
Goal line short yardage back? sure. but I can't see giving him an extension?
Since 2023, only two players have more carries than Williams.

if you look past the season rush yd total, it shows a average back with a top 10 rushing oline

His 4.1 yd per carry ranked 33rd in NFL

He had an explosive run rate of 1.9 percent. That ranked 44th out of 46 qualified running backs.

He ranked 37th in missed tackles forced and 40th in yards after contact.

PFF- Williams ranked 32nd out of 37 running backs in pass-blocking and had the fifth-highest allowed pressure opportunity rate.

Throw in the 6 fumbles, 4 lost

This is not an attack on Kyren he has given max effort and has had some big 3rd or 4th down And short conversions.
game changing conversions.

But a top ten back deserving an extension? I couldn't disagree more.
Hoping Jaquez , Corum or anyone can give us a true homerun threat at the position
and a franchise type in the backfield.

Watching would tacklers just bounce off Jaquez and it not even break his stride
and when he see's a opportunity he turns on those jets. If that translates,
that is what we need to completely open up the offense and March to
SB land along with our buzz saw defense.

 

[CoachAllred]

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Overall yards is not a grading mark of a good RB. Kyron posted 4.1 per carry last year. Regardless if he played less.

His 4.1 yd per carry ranked 33rd in NFL

He had an explosive run rate of 1.9 percent. That ranked 44th out of 46 qualified running backs.

He ranked 37th in missed tackles forced and 40th in yards after contact.
Bijan had a slow start to his rookie year, but still put up a 4.8 ypc.
2432 yds rushing , 12 Rushes of 20+ YDS.
918 YDS receiving 8 plays of 20 plus including a71 yd reception
All this with a hot mess at qb

Kyren is no Bijan.

I like Kyren he has his skillset ,

but we have to get more explosives out of the running game. 2 runs of 20 plus yards
ranking 44 out 46 rb's in explosive runs does not put fear in opponents.
Mcvay has talked about this. We have a back who opponents tend to bounce off
And he has the jets to make them pay.

 

[CoachAllred]

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Overall yards is not a grading mark of a good RB. Kyron posted 4.1 per carry last year. Regardless if he played less.

His 4.1 yd per carry ranked 33rd in NFL

He had an explosive run rate of 1.9 percent. That ranked 44th out of 46 qualified running backs.

He ranked 37th in missed tackles forced and 40th in yards after contact.
Bijan had a slow start to his rookie year, but still put up a 4.8 ypc.
2432 yds rushing , 12 Rushes of 20+ YDS.
918 YDS receiving 8 plays of 20 plus including a71 yd receptio

All this with a hot mess at qb

Kyren is no Bijan.

I like Kyren he has his skillset ,

but we have to get more explosives out of the running game. 2 runs of 20 plus yards
ranking 44 out 46 rb's in explosive runs does not put fear in opponents.
Mcvay has talked about this. We have a back who opponents tend to bounce off
And he has the jets to make them pay.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Overall yards is not a grading mark of a good RB. Kyron posted 4.1 per carry last year. Regardless if he played less.

His 4.1 yd per carry ranked 33rd in NFL

He had an explosive run rate of 1.9 percent. That ranked 44th out of 46 qualified running backs.

He ranked 37th in missed tackles forced and 40th in yards after contact.
Bijan had a slow start to his rookie year, but still put up a 4.8 ypc.
2432 yds rushing , 12 Rushes of 20+ YDS.
918 YDS receiving 8 plays of 20 plus including a71 yd receptio

All this with a hot mess at qb

Kyren is no Bijan.

I like Kyren he has his skillset ,

but we have to get more explosives out of the running game. 2 runs of 20 plus yards
ranking 44 out 46 rb's in explosive runs does not put fear in opponents.
Mcvay has talked about this. We have a back who opponents tend to bounce off
And he has the jets to make them pay.

Did you miss the part where the Rams had Oline injuries and played several combinations including UDFAs on the line at times?

 

[So Ram]

Its a good point about Williams vision.
He is really good and has gotten plenty of short yardage first downs basically on his own, shifting and slipping a tackle to get the first.

Kyren Williams has been my Fantasy RB the last 2 years.His TD’s every game is what’s special.He punches it in !!!

The thing that I really like & some have said they don’t like the Tuss Push.Even Mcvay at 1 point said it ,before probably realizing & getting more of the FACTS.

NFL teams have there own style they develop.IMO being able to do the RUGBY style plays is low impact.I know I’m going away from this point,but my examples will be Landon Dickerson & Hurts really are The 2 that make that work.DUDE is such a STUD.Dickerson was hurt in PHILLY’s playoff game & had to play Center as well. PHILLY got STOPPED!!

You look at KC vs. BUFFALO & Josh Allen couldn’t get a 1st down to save the Bills playoff life!!! Then you see Dickerson back at LG & it’s unstoppable!!!

My point of what I think gets overlooked is how The Rams Offensive Line with Steve Avila & of course others is getting behind The RB on first contact & just moving The PILE(RB) forward.There only going to get better.It’s all about taking down the RB’s legs on defense.

That’s my case for keeping the Tush Push,because if that rule changes it will effect the lather as well.