KW ROCKED!!! It was my opinion that McVay didn't use him enough passing out of the backfield though. When it come to breaking the big runs KW was most times leaning forward a little too much which would cause him to stumble. He needs that Eric Dickerson posture after getting through the line and run upright!
Props to Kyren
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He gets labeled as a player that fumbles a lot, but he has 10 fumbles in four years.
Gurley had 11 in his first four
SJax had 13
Marshall had 20
Bettis had 20
Dickerson had 49 (thanks for the correction @Allen2McVay )
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Sorry ... little confused ... are you saying Dickerson had ONE Career fumble?!?
Dickerson fumbled ... A LOT!
I thought so, but not according to espn.
Edit: You’re right. Any lesser player would have been out of the league. Pro football reference has him at 49 in four seasons.
As it stands, Kyren is doing just fine. He’s had two really poorly timed fumbles, and that’s what stands out in people’s minds. I don’t think he has a fumbling problem.
Unfortunately, ESPN is wrong ... WAY Wrong.
Dickerson had 78 career fumbles (checked three different sources) ... 50+ just with the Rams.
Heck, he fumbled twice in the 1985 NFC Championship Game alone.
Insane. Actually looking at a bunch of these all time greats is pretty eye opening when it comes to fumbles. I’m surprised that so many of them let the ball hit the ground that often
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I look at fumbles, not fumbles lost. Who recovers a fumble is so luck based, that what matters is that you don't put the ball on the ground. I think the impression that he had a fumbling problem comes from the fact that over a stretch of 7 games in 2024 he had 5 fumbles. Since then, he has done a very good job with ball security. Over his next 27 games he has had only 3 fumbles. I agree 100% that fumbles at critical times stick in people's minds, adding to their impression of a fumbling issue.
team has way too many other important holes when we already have two good RBs.
I'd honestly be pissed if we did that...
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Kyren said he was going to put effort into not fumbling and then he did put effort into not fumbling.
Good job.
Good job.
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Harder to get the actual stats, but yes, turnover worthy passes tell you the story a little more clearly.
I really like the kid, unfortunately for this year, that one fumble was one fumble too many. That likley cost them the division and the 1 seed this year and maybe the SB.
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Wow!
The way you and Coliseum look at things ... just one or two plays were the ENTIRE Difference for the Rams.
Since the Rams' 2025 Season ... including the Playoffs .... had somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,800 plays,
that's ... What's the word? ... Ridiculous.
Well, one play can make a difference. Happens all the time.
If Beux Limmer doesn't miss a block last year in the playoffs the Rams likley beat Philly. That doesn't mean he made the only play that was determinant in that game, but if he makes that block the Rams likley go up 29-28 with less than a minute left.
If Williams doesn't fumble the ball, the Rams likley sweep the Niners and win the division. That Atlanta game becomes important and they handle their business.
So yes, there are many plays in a season, but there are plays that become turning points and that was a huge turning point this year. We all kind of knew it could bite them in the ass at the time, and it did.
BTW, if one play doesn't matter, why did McVay fire the STs coach after a poor punt coverage play in Seattle? The ST's had improved, kicking game was much better, yet after that play he fired the coach. Why if 1000's of plays determine the season?
I prefer to blame losses on broader failures than individual plays. Example 1: PHI loss this year was a failure of the entire FG team for the entire game. Not just poor blocking on the game ending blocked FG.
Example 2: CAR loss this year was a failure of the defense on 4th downs. Allowed CAR to be 3-3 on 4th down attempts. Including 2TDs due to lack of pressure plus piss poor pass coverage was on the entire defense.
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