Projecting Rams’ offensive line

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Havenstein has given up 13 sacks in the past two seasons and people believe PFF that he is somehow an above average starter.?

David Edwards is a backup level talent at LG nothing more.

Allen was a good starter at C but can't stay healthy.. Shelton stepped into the hardest OL position and as a first time starter played well.

Corbett is in fact an average RG. Alaric Jackson played well for a first time starter at both RG and LT. If they move him to LG he will be an upgrade to Edwards.

Whitworth at LT was undoubtedly a superstar at LT. But Noteboom is very good at LT when he's healthy. He got hurt early in this last season and toughed it out as long as he could because of all the other injuries on the OL. Nsekhe was a very credible backup LT.

They won a Super Bowl with these guys yet they are considered subpar by those on this board before the season.

I don't see them giving up on Noteboom and think it would be a mistake to do so. Allen looks to be injury prone but when he plays he's very good, hell even PFF thinks so. I think they give Allen one last season to start knowing they have Shelton behind him. The Rams drafted Bruss for a reason so I think he will be in the mix at one of the OG positions this year. They will have Thomas, Toner, and Brewer also in the mix.

I feel that the real competition will be at OG on both sides. I think that with the addition of Thomas and Toner the Rams won't feel the pressing need to spend capital other than a 3rd day draft pick on OL. The Rams have pressing needs at RB, TE, and on the DL (DE/edge or DT). For cap reasons, I think they keep Allen Robinson and give him one last shot. With the emergence of Tutu it takes the pressure off as Jefferson is becoming more comfortable playing at X WR.

Zach Thomas fits the mold of a pulling OG in a power run attack, that the Rams like to use. With LaFluer helping improve the run game don't be surprised if Zach Thomas starts at RG. IMO part of the problem in the run attack was not only poor play design but that was limited by the OL they had. This OL as I've listed is a fit for a power or zone both inside and outside blocked type of run offense. I've been waiting on Thomas for months. He has a combination of speed, and athleticism you don't normally find in OL prospects. It's like having an athletic interior DL playing on offense. Pulling OGs have a tough job of making blocks on the move, most OL can't and it's why you don't see it much. The Chargers converted a DT to a pulling OG who allowed them to play a power run attack with Tomlinson. Kris won 4 pro bowls in that role. Thomas has the same kind of speed and athleticism.

Cole Toner could be a sleeper as a starter at LG. He's got good length and athleticism to play that position. He also is the kind of OG you want to help in the run attack. While with the Cardinals he also was coached as a backup center. He's had limited game snaps in his career. His performance in those snaps IMO have been on par with Corbett but with better mobility which was Corbetts Achilles heel in the run attack and I think is why he was allowed to walk.

So?
LT Noteboom / Nsekhe
LG Toner / Brewer
C Allen / Shelton
RG Thomas / Bruss
RT Havenstein / Jackson

This OL should improve the run game. In pass blocking, they should be close to 2021's version of the OL. Improving the run attack will improve the play action and by definition the pass blocking.

It's because of Toner and Thomas I don't think the Rams will feel pressed to make changes on the OL. They have the personnel they simply need to coach them up, i.e. develop them and use them properly.
 

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I’m parroting some previous posts, but based on what we have:

LT) Jackson/Nsehke
LG) Brewer/Skura
C) Draftee/Shelton
RG) Anchrum/Bruss
LT) Havs

First and foremost, draft a damn Center and start building around him.

Shelton becomes both his backup and interior swing man.
Skura can battle Brewer for LG and Bruss is our Guard in development.

Nsehke becomes our swing Tackle until Noteboom returns.
Allen is gone.

One more time, for the record…
DRAFT A CENTER!
 

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I’m parroting some previous posts, but based on what we have:

LT) Jackson/Nsehke
LG) Brewer/Skura
C) Draftee/Shelton
RG) Anchrum/Bruss
LT) Havs

First and foremost, draft a damn Center and start building around him.

Shelton becomes both his backup and interior swing man.
Skura can battle Brewer for LG and Bruss is our Guard in development.

Nsehke becomes our swing Tackle until Noteboom returns.
Allen is gone.

One more time, for the record…
DRAFT A CENTER!
It's unfortunate we didn't plan ahead for needs, since OLers take a long time to develop. But at pick 36 we should be able to land somebody who's an instant upgrade to what we have. Maybe by game 5 or so he'd be able to settle in and make a difference.
 

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I’m parroting some previous posts, but based on what we have:

LT) Jackson/Nsehke
LG) Brewer/Skura
C) Draftee/Shelton
RG) Anchrum/Bruss
LT) Havs

First and foremost, draft a damn Center and start building around him.

Shelton becomes both his backup and interior swing man.
Skura can battle Brewer for LG and Bruss is our Guard in development.

Nsehke becomes our swing Tackle until Noteboom returns.
Allen is gone.

One more time, for the record…
DRAFT A CENTER!
Okay they are coming up for our 4th round comp pick - woohoo Biadesz is available - grab him Rams GRAB HIM!

Sigh

Okay they won't screw up two years in a row. OMG - Humphrey is available. Don't fuck up this time Rams GET HIM!!!!!!!

Heavy sigh.
 

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I’m parroting some previous posts, but based on what we have:

LT) Jackson/Nsehke
LG) Brewer/Skura
C) Draftee/Shelton
RG) Anchrum/Bruss
LT) Havs

First and foremost, draft a damn Center and start building around him.

Shelton becomes both his backup and interior swing man.
Skura can battle Brewer for LG and Bruss is our Guard in development.

Nsehke becomes our swing Tackle until Noteboom returns.
Allen is gone.

One more time, for the record…
DRAFT A CENTER!
Draft the kid from Minnesota, he's a fuckin mauler in the run game. We need some nastiness on our o-line that puts the boobies thread to shame!
 

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What we want and can expect may be two different things.

I expect (starter / backup):

LT: Noteboom / Jackson
LG: Jackson / Bruss
C: Shelton / draft pick
RG: Anchrum / Brewer
RT: Havenstein / Jackson / Arcuri

9 guys, 8 currently on the roster
 

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Rams OL Coleman Shelton Facing Free Agency Decision
Los Angeles Rams offensive lineman Coleman Shelton had a breakout year and played his way into a contract option this offseason ... but what will he do?

It's highly probable Shelton elects to opt out of the remaining year of his contract signed last offseason so he can take his starting skills to a team that has $$$ to pay what veteran NFL OL'ers demand.

I having trouble & need help in understanding why would a solid starting versatile veteran of 6 seasons (since 2018) continue to play for the Rams bottom-feeder contract of $1.25 million base salary when he can easily make 500% more playing elsewhere.

Can offer up any help & assist me?

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I believe that Shelton will NOT play for the Rams on that contract & will find another long term contract with a much bigger paise raise.
 
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I hope Shelton signs somewhere else. Maybe that will force the Rams to draft one of the bigger centers in the draft.
 

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Shelton, Edwards & Evans are gone with free agency.

jmo.
It scared me even seeing his name in this thread. We already gave him the long needed boot. Thank god he's not even remotely an option anymore.
 

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I hope Shelton signs somewhere else. Maybe that will force the Rams to draft one of the bigger centers in the draft.
Let me say that I agree the Rams need to draft a HD skilled college center in this 2023 draft. Not one from a spread offense.

Rams do not have a veteran experienced OG's on this roster????? An experienced OG who could assist greatly the new baby drafted OC in helping the inexperienced OC identify & making the OL needed alterings of line calls before the snap.
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Can anyone advise me on what I am missing in our current contracted OL'ers?

Rams have one OC under contract (Allen entering his 6th season) & he has only finished 27 NFL games as a starter & close to 1,900 snaps compared with SB-starting OC Jason Kelce with 178 starts & close to 11K snaps. Matt Skura 6 yr vet who is primarily a skilled OC has 4500 snaps 71 starts.

It may be best to offer Shelton a decent 3 yr contract for around 3.5 mil a season for a great insurance policy.
 
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Rams do not have a veteran experienced OG on this roster.????? A OG who could assist greatly the new baby drafted OC in helping the inexperienced OC identify & making the OL needed alterings of line calls before the snap.
Isn't that the veteran QB?
It may be best to offer Shelton a decent 3 yr contract for around 3.5 mil a season for a great insurance policy.
If they believe he had a "breakout year", I'm sure they're already addressing that.

Maybe something like, "we're gonna release BA and recoup some cap, restructure your deal with a signing bonus but lower salary."
 

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It may be best to offer Shelton a decent 3 yr contract for around 3.5 mil a season for a great insurance policy.

That would surprise me, even Austin Blythe pulled in $4.M from Seattle last season.
 

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That would surprise me, even Austin Blythe pulled in $4.M from Seattle last season.
At least Austin Blythe has a good amount of experience as a starter for 3 to 4 seasons out of 7 seasons.

Shelton has yet to start a full season. he missed most of 7 gms last season. Shelton only has 13 starts since he entered the NFL in 2018.

But you are most likely right signing any starting material OL'er is going to cost much more than 4 million a year. Far too much wishful positive thinking on my part.:oops:
 

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Noteboom or Jackson at LT
Free agent guard
John Michael-Schmitz or Brian Allen at C
Coleman or Bruss at RG
Havenstein at RT


Lots of projection here that I'm nervous about tbh.
 

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Here’s a question I keep asking myself…

Will the best OT available at pick #36 be a better option for the LT spot than our current best?

I think the answer could be yes and, if I’m right, I like the resulting domino effect…

#36 and Hav at OT

Jackson, Shelton, Bruss, Anchrum and Allen (perhaps with competition from another rookie or a veteran FA) fight for the other three spots.

I like that path.
 

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Here’s a question I keep asking myself…

Will the best OT available at pick #36 be a better option for the LT spot than our current best?

I think the answer could be yes and, if I’m right, I like the resulting domino effect…

#36 and Hav at OT

Jackson, Shelton, Bruss, Anchrum and Allen (perhaps with competition from another rookie or a veteran FA) fight for the other three spots.

I like that path.
Just based on what I've read I don't personally think so. Apparently this is a crazy shallow draft for offensive line. And that's a position where teams tend to reach already.
 

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Just based on what I've read I don't personally think so. Apparently this is a crazy shallow draft for offensive line. And that's a position where teams tend to reach already.
I see some possibilities.

The following guys will almost certainly be gone: Paris Johnson (Ohio St), Broderick Jones (Georgia).

That leaves an intriguing second group of prospects including Darnell Wright (Tenn), Anton Harrison (Oklahoma), Cody Mauch (ND State), and Jaelyn Duncan (Maryland).

I think it’s worth considering.
 

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For those looking at Joseph Noteboom as being" it" @ LT?

Noteboom allowed the second-most hits, and the third-most sacks and pressures on the team in 2022, and he played in just six games before going out on the IR for the rest of the season.