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You're definition of dirty and mine are obviously different. If I don't see a flag or a fine then I can't logically say the play is dirty. I can't call someone a shitty driver if they have a completely clean driving record

Yeah in previous matchups they’ve jumped on our defense early and our offense settled for FG’s early…IIRC.

The key is to get them to start chasing the scoreboard. Goff and Cpt Kneecap the play caller in particular.
They’re tough playing with a lead but get stupid and make mistakes when getting beat.
Do them for Higgs! Fk it lets gooo! I hope the Ram fans are loud and Proud! This is a Big Big game and i hope the D brings rhe fkin Juice! Man lets fkin Go! Stymie that run game!! Im stoked as hell!!
 
Brian Branch literally got suspended for a helmet-to-helmet hit on a defenseless receiver, which he's done on a consistent basis ever since he got into the league.

Ask why Kerby Joseph feels the need to target knees; it's not just Higbee's knee he's targeted, but Hockenson's with the Vikings, hence why Stafford says, "I've seen it on tape."

The onus is on the hitter. It's always been on the hitter, even if the quarterback throws a hospital pass (hence why it's upsetting to replay Blake Countess' hit on Marquise Goodwin when the Rams played the Whiners, and in all honesty, Countess should've gotten a lengthy suspension as well as the huge fine). Joseph has no excuses for his dirtiness. Branch has no excuses for being dirty. The whole fucking Lions defense? No excuses.

Don't give them a built-in excuse; they don't deserve it.
I'm sorry that's ignorant as hell. The very fact the nfl has brainwashed you people in thinking it's up to the defenders to protect the offensive players is just sad. That precedent should have never been set because it makes absolutely no damn sense. It crazy that grown ass adults are throwing labels on a player who made a completely legal play. That's soft. Branch ok I get that but I still wouldn't call him a dirty player. A dirty player to me is Haynesworth, burfect, and suh. Those players were legitimately trying to hurt people. I don't see that from any lions player or really any player in the nfl currently. The closest would be Pickens in Dallas. Again all this for a completely legal play that didn't get flagged and didn't recieve a fine. Fact is kerby isn't dirty and nobody literally nobody can prove otherwise without bias opinions. He doesn't get flagged for hits and he doesn't get fined. So what the hell are we talking about? You may excuse Stafford for hospital balls but I will not do that. Don't knowingly put your teammates in harms way then go at the defender for being a defender instead of taking accountability. That was a bitch move by our guy.
 
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You're definition of dirty and mine are obviously different. If I don't see a flag or a fine then I can't logically say the play is dirty. I can't call someone a shitty driver if they have a completely clean driving record for 5+ years.
I only played football for 10 years (3rd - 12th grade) but there were 0 coaches that taught intentionally diving at the knees or spearing with the helmet to make a tackle. Penalty or not it’s just shitty technique and dangerous to players.
 
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No shit omg
I'm sorry that's ignorant as hell. The very fact the nfl has brainwashed you people in thinking it's up to the defenders to protect the offensive players is just sad. That precedent should have never been set because it makes absolutely no damn sense. It crazy that grown ass adults are throwing labels on a player who made a completely legal play. That's soft. Branch ok I get that but I still wouldn't call him a dirty player. A dirty player to me is Haynesworth, burfect, and suh. Those players were legitimately trying to hurt people. I don't see that from any lions player or really any player in the nfl currently. The closest would be Pickens in Dallas. Again all this for a completely legal play that didn't get flagged and didn't recieve a fine. Fact is kerby isn't dirty and nobody literally nobody can prove otherwise without bias opinions. He doesn't get flagged for hits and he doesn't get fined. So what the hell are we talking about? You may excuse Stafford for hospital balls but I will not do that. Don't knowingly put your teammates in harms way then go at the defender for being a defender instead of taking accountability. That was a bitch move by our guy.
fk all the way off.. stay off kneep caps with the crown of your fuckin helmet and damn sure dont mfkin be proud of it you asshole kIrbY JoSeph. I hope Puka abuses your ass this week. Take the cheap shots and stick em up your ass!
 
I'm sorry that's ignorant as hell. The very fact the nfl has brainwashed you people in thinking it's up to the defenders to protect the offensive players is just sad. That precedent should have never been set because it makes absolutely no damn sense. It crazy that grown ass adults are throwing labels on a player who made a completely legal play. That's soft. Branch ok I get that but I still wouldn't call him a dirty player. A dirty player to me is Haynesworth, burfect, and suh. Those players were legitimately trying to hurt people. I don't see that from any lions player or really any player in the nfl currently. The closest would be Pickens in Dallas. Again all this for a completely legal play that didn't get flagged and didn't recieve a fine. Fact is kerby isn't dirty and nobody literally nobody can prove otherwise without bias opinions. He doesn't get flagged for hits and he doesn't get fined. So what the hell are we talking about? You may excuse Stafford for hospital balls but I will not do that. Don't knowingly put your teammates in harms way then go at the defender for being a defender instead of taking accountability. That was a bitch move by our guy.

It's to protect the defensive players as well. Proper tackling should be taught at every level instead of killshots with spearing your helmet at a defender; look no further than Ryan Shazier of the Steelers (paralyzed from using his helmet to spear a running back; hell, Countess got himself concussed on that aforementioned play along with Goodwin). Using the crown of your helmet (as Joseph did with both Higbee and Hockenson's knee) as the primary weapon doesn't just hurt the players you hit; it can hurt you. I know this shit, and I never even played.

Call me soft all you like, and yes, I saw Haynesworth, Burfict, Suh, etc. all play and do plays outside of the scope of the game. Yes, that's dirty, but there's different levels of dirtiness. Just because Haynesworth stomped on Gurode's helmet doesn't mean that Joseph or Branch should suddenly be absolved for using their helmets as weapons. No, he didn't receive a fine, but that shouldn't mean that what he did wasn't dirty.

Yeah, I'd be just as pissed as Stafford was in that situation.
 
It's to protect the defensive players as well. Proper tackling should be taught at every level instead of killshots with spearing your helmet at a defender; look no further than Ryan Shazier of the Steelers (paralyzed from using his helmet to spear a running back; hell, Countess got himself concussed on that aforementioned play along with Goodwin). Using the crown of your helmet (as Joseph did with both Higbee and Hockenson's knee) as the primary weapon doesn't just hurt the players you hit; it can hurt you. I know this shit, and I never even played.

Call me soft all you like, and yes, I saw Haynesworth, Burfict, Suh, etc. all play and do plays outside of the scope of the game. Yes, that's dirty, but there's different levels of dirtiness. Just because Haynesworth stomped on Gurode's helmet doesn't mean that Joseph or Branch should suddenly be absolved for using their helmets as weapons. No, he didn't receive a fine, but that shouldn't mean that what he did wasn't dirty.

Yeah, I'd be just as pissed as Stafford was in that situation.
That's exactly what it means. In your opinion he's dirty the facts say otherwise. He hasn't been fined or suspended. Now if we're talking branch you have a point. But Joseph? No thats just biased opinions backed up with emotions and no facts. You people really calling a completely legal play dirty and see no issue with that logic and how dangerous it is. It's sad really.
 
No shit omg

fk all the way off.. stay off kneep caps with the crown of your fuckin helmet and damn sure dont mfkin be proud of it you asshole kIrbY JoSeph. I hope Puka abuses your ass this week. Take the cheap shots and stick em up your ass!
He didn't hit with the crown of his helmet..not even close actually. So take your own advice and fuck off before entering a discussion you're obviously not educated on.
 
I only played football for 10 years (3rd - 12th grade) but there were 0 coaches that taught intentionally diving at the knees or spearing with the helmet to make a tackle. Penalty or not it’s just shitty technique and dangerous to players.
The game has changed. They're absolutely taught to go low on players now because going high can hurt the team and their pockets. Get mad at the nfl not the players. I also highly doubt that the intention is to hit the players in the knees. It's more of a byproduct of how the games are called now.
 
Man, I don’t wanna be the bearer of bad news, but it seems like Stafford is coming down with something. Watch his part of the presser today….hes coughing and his voice is a little raspier than normal. Hes a tough son of a bitch, and will play regardless but don’t be shocked if we get Stafford under the weather news in the next 48 hours.
 
The game has changed. They're absolutely taught to go low on players now because going high can hurt the team and their pockets. Get mad at the nfl not the players. I also highly doubt that the intention is to hit the players in the knees. It's more of a byproduct of how the games are called now.
While they would never publicly admit it, I bet Lions QBs/RBs/WRs cringe every time they see one of their own intentionally go for the knees of a defenseless WR. It may not be a penalty, but open season on knees is bad for everyone. So incidental hits to the knees happen and are just part of NFL football. However intentional hits to the knees are dangerous, unnecessary, and yes, DIRTY.
 
While they would never publicly admit it, I bet Lions QBs/RBs/WRs cringe every time they see one of their own intentionally go for the knees of a defenseless WR. It may not be a penalty, but open season on knees is bad for everyone. So incidental hits to the knees happen and are just part of NFL football. However intentional hits to the knees are dangerous, unnecessary, and yes, DIRTY.
You can't even prove he intentionally goes at knees so what we talking about? That's your opinion and a very dangerous one that puts a bad publicity on a player who again, made a completly legal play. Newsflash when you get hit below the waist you could get hit in the knee. Blame the nfl for shrinking the legal hit box above the waist. Yall probably hate kerby more fir making a legal hit than Jamar chase for literally spitting on a grown man face and then lying about it. Btw Durant, lake, and kitchens have all been fined for hip drop tackles and hitting defenseless players...are they dirty? Let me guess..no right? Because they're rams?
 
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You can't even prove he intentionally goes at knees so what we talking about? That's your opinion and a very dangerous one that puts a bad publicity on a player who again, made a completly legal play. Newsflash when you get hit below the waist you could get hit in the knee. Blame the nfl for shrinking the legal hit box above the waist. Yall probably hate kerby more fir making a legal hit than Jamar chase for literally spitting on a grown man face and then lying about it.
Alright. Enough of this nonsense. Try posting in a different thread because I'm done with your shit storm in this one.
 
I can't call someone a shitty driver if they have a completely clean driving record for 5+ years.

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fk all the way off.. stay off kneep caps with the crown of your fuckin helmet and damn sure dont mfkin be proud of it you asshole kIrbY JoSeph. I hope Puka abuses your ass this week. Take the cheap shots and stick em up your ass!
Come on man. Read the terms and rules at the bottom of the page. That kind of stuff has no place here. I get the emotion but find another way to express them.

Cheers
 
That's exactly what it means. In your opinion he's dirty the facts say otherwise. He hasn't been fined or suspended. Now if we're talking branch you have a point. But Joseph? No thats just biased opinions backed up with emotions and no facts. You people really calling a completely legal play dirty and see no issue with that logic and how dangerous it is. It's sad really.
I dont think Stafford calls the guy "dirty as fuck" without reason. When he said he saw it on tape it makes me think there's probably more to the story than just the few hits that have made the headlines.

Dan Campbell told his players to go for the knee caps and that wasn't figurative speech.
 
What’s done is done. Use it anyway you (Rams players) want to fuel yourselves up for this game. The lions are a good team with a dangerous offense.

The Rams win and they’re in. It’s that simple. How much more motivation do they need?

If the lions lose, they’re are probably out.
 
Just saw that Brian Branch is out for the year with a torn Achilles.

Looks like their secondary is not going to be able to keep up with our offense.
 
You're definition of dirty and mine are obviously different. If I don't see a flag or a fine then I can't logically say the play is dirty. I can't call someone a shitty driver if they have a completely clean driving record for 5+ years.

Clearly you’ve never driven in Florida. There are tons of gawd awful drivers who purely by the grace of God haven’t been in a ton of accidents as they Mr Magoo their way to the Publix, leaving devastation and carnage in their wake.

They’re absolutely terrible drivers, but *technically*, they have no points on their record.

Safe on paper, but menaces on the road.

Refs miss calls all the time. That can’t be contested. As for fines, the rhyme or reason for them can be opaque and every week there are guys who aren’t fined who should be and guys who are fined who definitely shouldn’t be. The existence of a fine does not infer absolute guilt any more than the absence of a fine infers absolute indemnity.

To wit: there are PLENTY of shitty drivers with clean records…and plenty of dirty plays to unflagged and unfined. It’s not a question of interpretation.
 
How...please explain how that's naive. Especially about a league that is notorious for fining players where no flag is thrown and plays that look routine. Keep in mind we're talking about a league that seems like they're looking for a reason to fine a defensive player.
Well, let’s start with the fact that if you watch an NFL game, any of them, you typically see multiple penalties in every game that go uncalled. Not just the random OL holds but obvious egregious penalties. I could go on by that fact alone pretty much shoots a hole in your theory that “if it wasn’t flaggged it must not be illegal”
 
Clearly you’ve never driven in Florida. There are tons of gawd awful drivers who purely by the grace of God haven’t been in a ton of accidents as they Mr Magoo their way to the Publix, leaving devastation and carnage in their wake.
Yeah, but that’s just all of those snowbirds. Those of us who actually live here are awesome drivers! :sunglasses: