He had "the" fastest 40 time for TEs.
Potential WR Trade Targets
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Because the Colts are probably looking for draft picks, youth and cap space. Williams would not provide that.
At that level of the NFL, I don't think ridiculous offers for top-tier-talent would be respected or well received.
El Chapo Jr
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I'm sure there are offers that are ridiculous all the time. Stop acting like you actually know what's offered lol
I just think you are being a little naive here to think that the top executives at the highest levels of a Billion-$-sport don't communicate and negotiate with each other in a responsible, professional manner.
El Chapo Jr
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No not at all, I imagine they call and make an offer expecting a counter. Nothing wrong with them saying, hey we will send you Kyren and some picks as a conversation starter. Even if the Colts say no way, they could offer a potential piece of info like we'd only consider it if you throw in Player A, B or C or include some more picks. Acting like a team never offered something a team won't take is naive. We are still talking people here. Of course they throw out offers just to see what that team might say. The funniest part of all this however is that from the very beginning, I actually said I doubt the Rams do it so I find it hilarious that you are taking it somewhat serious. I'm talking about what I'd do but I'm sure the Rams would keep rolling with the no home run RBs we have. I just would love to take a swing at some actual players that can score from anywhere on the field as we have none right now.
I’m guessing Klare is in the same boat as Ferguson was his first year, just not ready to play. I’d rather see CJ getting some reps and some easy catches, he could be a valuable asset down the stretch if the get him settled into a role.
El Chapo Jr
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I will say I have never really understood why McVay doesn't want to give the young guns an opportunity. I get that some of them may not look that great in practice but some players actually do perform better in game situations. It's not like he needs to play them a buttload of snaps but at least something.
It all comes down to blocking assignments for TEs. No way you risk injury to a 38 year old QB because some rookie can't block at the NFL level yet. Especially without a currently capable backup.
El Chapo Jr
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I'm not necessarily talking about Klare. My fault for not clarifying, but I meant young WRs like CJ Daniels. However, with Klare, he could run Klare out on routes only vs having him block. With that said, we've had vet players get Stafford blasted so at some point, players just need game experience. Pretty dumb to draft a guy as your 2nd round pick and not play him at all.
Yeah, that would represent an all in for 26' and 27', but would cost us a few guys in terms of letting people walk and possibly facing a cap crunch in 28'.
So that would be a big organizational decision. Give up more high picks, plus lose players due to cap issues in another year or two, possibly having a cap reset year in 28'. Not to mention hurting the ability to add more young depth in future drafts.
So that, versus putting all the chips on the table and going for it in these likley last 2 Stafford years by adding a dynamic WR to pair with Puka, and who also would provide Puka insurance in case he gets hurt or if his contract becomes an issue this offseason.
An interesting decision.
If you give up a #2 this yr and a #1 in 28', maybe you get a mid round pick back, but that would kill the 27' draft and the 28' draft in terms of day 1 & day 2 picks. That's barring any comp picks for Scheelhasse in 27' & 28' or 28' comp picks for lost players this upcoming offseason. And they likley will get some comp picks.
I didn't realize that Wilson signed a new deal already. So his cap hits would not be bad due to the Jets having to eat his signing bonus, which makes it not make much sense for them to move a 26 yr old WR who results in a big dead cap hit.
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It's even more dumb to play someone before they're ready. What's the rush?
El Chapo Jr
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That's not dumb if you are only giving them some plays, we aren't talking about giving em the keys to the bus per se......Now you're just assuming I'm talking about playing em a ton which is dumb......see I can play that game too
I know we've been tossing these names around quite a bit on the board, but I spent last night diving deep into tape and highlights for both guys. After watching them back-to-back, it's clear as day: Brian Thomas Jr. is the absolute missing piece for this offense.
Downs is a grinder, but BTJ gives McVay a chess piece we simply don't have on the roster right now. His vertical pacing and ability to stack cornerbacks down the boundary would completely open up the intermediate lanes for Puka.
Think about the bigger picture, too. Davante Adams is on IR right now, but if we can stay in the hunt and weather the storm until the end of the season, imagine a playoff push with a fully healthy room of these three.
That is a legitimate, nightmare-inducing coverage problem for any defense in the NFC. You have elite route running, a physical monster who dominates the middle of the field, and a 4.33 lid-lifter who demands safety help on every snap.
Yes, the Jaguars' asking price will be steep, especially with his high-end trait, but Les Snead shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger if he wants to maximize this window with Stafford.
Downs is a grinder, but BTJ gives McVay a chess piece we simply don't have on the roster right now. His vertical pacing and ability to stack cornerbacks down the boundary would completely open up the intermediate lanes for Puka.
Think about the bigger picture, too. Davante Adams is on IR right now, but if we can stay in the hunt and weather the storm until the end of the season, imagine a playoff push with a fully healthy room of these three.
That is a legitimate, nightmare-inducing coverage problem for any defense in the NFC. You have elite route running, a physical monster who dominates the middle of the field, and a 4.33 lid-lifter who demands safety help on every snap.
Yes, the Jaguars' asking price will be steep, especially with his high-end trait, but Les Snead shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger if he wants to maximize this window with Stafford.
LARAMSinFeb.
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I remember Davis Allen could always catch, but would get royally abused trying to block anybody. Took a while for him to develop.
WoodsideRam
Rookie
This is why they should have taken a WR in Rd 2. I mean, who knows what Klare turns out to be, but I think they should've seriously considered WR for that pick. I liked Malachai Fields out of Notre Dame. Nice big receiver. I think Stafford has a preference for WRs with some size. Would've been nice to get someone like that in the development pipeline so when Staff decides to hang 'em up, Simpson would have another target besides Puka to throw to at WR. Also, would've been a hedge against injury. We're already down one. And I love Puka's playing style, but it's not exactly conducive to playing a full season.
brucebruce
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Jags' BTJ is on a team with former Rams at HC and GM. Rams got sweetheart deals from Lions and Falcons who were staffed with previous former Rams so...
I agree that if you want to question a pick question the Klare pick. If they wanted a 5th TE for this year they could have added a vet in FA or just stick a guy like Redmon or Villari on the roster.
Thats where you could have taken a WR. Then with the Daniels pick, take your 5th TE, or like I said keep Redmon and use that 6th rd pick on a LB/STs guy.
IMO, it's perfectly legit to not make every decision about "this year." Rumor is that they were targeting WRs. Snead said they had WR targets in every round. If you like the TE better than whatever WRs are on the board, you stick to your board. You don't force a WR pick just because...
brucebruce
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There must be a glaring negative with Klare. Maybe the blocking questions are bigger than hoped and still needs to be coached up. I like his mentality to catch on the run and turn straight upfield for YAC. There must be more info in Klare.