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If the O can get Park and Ferg before the GB game I think it could really start to roll. In the meantime I think the O can be good enough. Maybe Tutu can get more snaps when they are in 11p and get Daniels in as well. They have to see if they can get more of an impact out of the WR room.
Why is everybody so fucking concerned with the Packers game? If we lose any our next 2 games our season is fucking over BEFORE we ever get to Green Bay. After the Cards game there is NO easy game or week off, period. We need all healthy hands on deck right fucking now, if you're 80-90% you need to be on the damn field this week, every game is like a playoff game from this point forward. 10-7 ain't getting us into the playoffs, 11-6 very well may not get there either. We NEED to beat the Commodes, Cards and Packers before we even think about playoffs. Every fucking team in the NFC North currently has a better record and our schedule gets extremely more difficult after the Cards. If Myles is 90% then fucking play, Trent, if you're 90% we need you.
 
Why is everybody so fucking concerned with the Packers game? If we lose any our next 2 games our season is fucking over BEFORE we ever get to Green Bay. After the Cards game there is NO easy game or week off, period. We need all healthy hands on deck right fucking now, if you're 80-90% you need to be on the damn field this week, every game is like a playoff game from this point forward. 10-7 ain't getting us into the playoffs, 11-6 very well may not get there either. We NEED to beat the Commodes, Cards and Packers before we even think about playoffs. Every fucking team in the NFC North currently has a better record and our schedule gets extremely more difficult after the Cards. If Myles is 90% then fucking play, Trent, if you're 90% we need you.
The Packer game is of extra importance because its the only NFC North team we play and wild-card tiebreaker has an excellent chance of coming into play re: Rams/Packers. The Rams most important games, as it relates to getting a wild card (haven't given up winning Division). besides.....duh, ALL of 'em, are Green Bay, Seattle, Seattle.
 
Why is everybody so fucking concerned with the Packers game? If we lose any our next 2 games our season is fucking over BEFORE we ever get to Green Bay. After the Cards game there is NO easy game or week off, period. We need all healthy hands on deck right fucking now, if you're 80-90% you need to be on the damn field this week, every game is like a playoff game from this point forward. 10-7 ain't getting us into the playoffs, 11-6 very well may not get there either. We NEED to beat the Commodes, Cards and Packers before we even think about playoffs. Every fucking team in the NFC North currently has a better record and our schedule gets extremely more difficult after the Cards. If Myles is 90% then fucking play, Trent, if you're 90% we need you.
We all know the Rams have to win the next 2 games first, but the injuries might not let the players I mentioned play right away and I am hoping they are ready after the bye. Nobody here is counting the next 2 as wins after the early season performances we have witnessed so far.
 
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Are you arguing… just to argue?

Daniel’s couldn’t beat out X Smith, Mumpfield, Whitt, Bachmann & Tutu to even get active.

Oh.. that roster also had Tavon Austin.. Mike Thomas and Pharoah Cooper. He ended up with more targets than all of them.

550+ snaps are going to WRs not named Adams & Nacua… 5 of those to Daniels.

That’s the answer to the 13 excuse
I know I am late to this party, but I have to point out that the 3 receivers he beat out for snaps were not McVay's guys. They were here prior to McVay. He was creating a new scheme and environment. Not the same thing now. You even have a thread that has a major argument about there not being any real competition. So were Klare and Daniels really fighting to beat them out? It might be they are just being brought a long slowly.
 
Because the Rams have never beaten a HC with the Surname of LaFleur.
That is sort of weird ? Well your LOGIC doesn’t ADD UP though if your looking ahead to Green Bay.
-I’m just looking forward to this weeks game & see where everything adds up.My hope is that still isn’t The CASE finaly playing Green Bay at SOFI after the bye week.

If we really want to look ahead from a NFC WEST standpoint then The Rams are at a real disadvantage.These next 3 games are almost all must WINS.Not to say the last 2 games weren’t.The Rams have been threading in DEEP WATERS.Now it’s about being able to touch surface.

Getting all 4 Real TE’s healthy is exciting.Seeing Max Klare try to BLOCK last week made even thinking about running the ball early like waking up the day afterwards with your Halloween costume still on think your a starting NFL player.The day after dead has past & hopefully T. FERG is that player coming out of his suit & tie to become that Superman image we could start to Vision.
 
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I see this as a fundamental misread.

Make Vay refuses to put guys on the field who are not ready to produce.

There’s a historic difference between not getting many touches as a rookie with the Rams and not getting any opportunities until people were injured.

I laid all this out earlier in this thread.

And it’s pretty established that rookie WRs that are any good will have been active the majority of games.

Depth and context matters. CJ couldn’t beat out anyone on the roster… and that is absolutely damning when you look at that room.

There is no “McVay” doesn’t play rookies.

McVay doesn’t play guys who ain’t ready or who aren’t good enough.
That's a crock. It was a crock earlier in the thread and it's a crock now.

You cited Josh Reynolds and Van Jefferson as rookies who played....I'm assuming.....because they were "good enough". Reynolds averaged 17 snaps per game in his rookie year, VJ 16. JR played 17 offensive snaps in week 1 and got zero targets. Over the next 6 games he got 2 snaps, 6, 7, 11, 6 and 0. Then he got 17 snaps, 10 and 8. He averaged 8.4 snaps per game the first 10 games of 2017. Why? Because he was a ROOKIE!!!!

One guy you've complained as a wasted pick is Klare. And he got 26 snaps last week (wk 8). Due to injury? Sure. Reynolds played 62 snaps, 42 and 26 in weeks 11, 12 and 13 of 2017. Why? Because of injury......Robert Woods was out. McVay doesn't play rookies until he has to. Kupp and Puka are the LONE exceptions.

Ironically, VJ, another guy you cited as being "good enough", played 33 offensive snaps in week 1 of 2020. After that? 26, 8, 3, 18, 3, 14, 13, 4 and 0 from week 2 through week 10. Why? Because he was a rookie. Not because he wasn't good enough. 33 snaps in game 1 should suggest that.

CJ couldn't beat out anybody the first 8 weeks because he's a rookie. McVay prefers to go with the guys who know the playbook, who know their blocking assignments, who know the route mesh designs. I assume it's complicated so McVay plays the guys he trusts. Ferguson got 25 snaps the first 5 weeks last year. Then he got 17 and 34. Why? Because of injuries. Your complaints that CJ hasn't beat anybody out for snaps is an indication he's not good enough is a crock. It's because he's a rookie.
 
I know I am late to this party, but I have to point out that the 3 receivers he beat out for snaps were not McVay's guys. They were here prior to McVay. He was creating a new scheme and environment. Not the same thing now. You even have a thread that has a major argument about there not being any real competition. So were Klare and Daniels really fighting to beat them out? It might be they are just being brought a long slowly.

Pupped is a little bit EXAGGERATED,Klare is suppose to be at least a SPECIAL TEAMS player.
If you watch The RAMS Games at ALL ?? You’d see Whittington being like the Leader of that group on coverage. Smith & Bauchman didn’t beat Daniels out for that same reason of ST’s.
Seeing him in the slot made it look like he belongs & he has shown excellent hands thus far.IMO Daniels is a JAG because he doesn’t have that true speed to get open.Kupp’s a Great WR,but he still is finding it hard to get open.That’s why Speed (40’s) matter.Then you see TUTU Atwell out there & just like Tavon are to SMALL.Austin was tough though,but couldn’t run a ROUTE to save his Life.
—T. Ferguson is a guy The Rams really like moving forward because he can do it all.Puka is that same type who Big Rob Havenstien said he has WR speed,a TE’s body,& a Fullbacks head.
 
I know I am late to this party, but I have to point out that the 3 receivers he beat out for snaps were not McVay's guys. They were here prior to McVay. He was creating a new scheme and environment. Not the same thing now. You even have a thread that has a major argument about there not being any real competition. So were Klare and Daniels really fighting to beat them out? It might be they are just being brought a long slowly.
I’m purposely not bringing Klare into the convo because I don’t want the conversation tainted by my posts about him being a wasted draft pick.

But if we’re talking about Klare, he has 4 legitimate NFL TEs in front of him.

That’s not the case at WR.

As for the other.. look.. other than Tutu, and I’m not smart enough to figure out where he belongs in this convo.. the other guys drafted… including Mumpfield, who was drafted in the 7th.. were at least active for almost every game.. and had more than 0 catches.
 
That's a crock. It was a crock earlier in the thread and it's a crock now.

You cited Josh Reynolds and Van Jefferson as rookies who played....I'm assuming.....because they were "good enough". Reynolds averaged 17 snaps per game in his rookie year, VJ 16. JR played 17 offensive snaps in week 1 and got zero targets. Over the next 6 games he got 2 snaps, 6, 7, 11, 6 and 0. Then he got 17 snaps, 10 and 8. He averaged 8.4 snaps per game the first 10 games of 2017. Why? Because he was a ROOKIE!!!!

One guy you've complained as a wasted pick is Klare. And he got 26 snaps last week (wk 8). Due to injury? Sure. Reynolds played 62 snaps, 42 and 26 in weeks 11, 12 and 13 of 2017. Why? Because of injury......Robert Woods was out. McVay doesn't play rookies until he has to. Kupp and Puka are the LONE exceptions.

Ironically, VJ, another guy you cited as being "good enough", played 33 offensive snaps in week 1 of 2020. After that? 26, 8, 3, 18, 3, 14, 13, 4 and 0 from week 2 through week 10. Why? Because he was a rookie. Not because he wasn't good enough. 33 snaps in game 1 should suggest that.

CJ couldn't beat out anybody the first 8 weeks because he's a rookie. McVay prefers to go with the guys who know the playbook, who know their blocking assignments, who know the route mesh designs. I assume it's complicated so McVay plays the guys he trusts. Ferguson got 25 snaps the first 5 weeks last year. Then he got 17 and 34. Why? Because of injuries. Your complaints that CJ hasn't beat anybody out for snaps is an indication he's not good enough is a crock. It's because he's a rookie.
Lolz

When was Adams injured? How many catches had Daniels had since then?
How many catches did he get when Puka was out?

McVay plays rookies if they’re good enough.

Klare is in a situation where there are 4 legitimate TEs in front of him.. we’ll see what happens with him moving forward. I’ve never made a comment on his viability as a prospect.

You seem to think there’s no difference between “not active” and “low usage.”

I disagree with that perspective.

Is so funny how the “LONE EXCEPTIONS” are excellent football players who were good from go. Which.. is my point.
 
Pupped is a little bit EXAGGERATED,Klare is suppose to be at least a SPECIAL TEAMS player.
If you watch The RAMS Games at ALL ?? You’d see Whittington being like the Leader of that group on coverage. Smith & Bauchman didn’t beat Daniels out for that same reason of ST’s.
Seeing him in the slot made it look like he belongs & he has shown excellent hands thus far.IMO Daniels is a JAG because he doesn’t have that true speed to get open.Kupp’s a Great WR,but he still is finding it hard to get open.That’s why Speed (40’s) matter.Then you see TUTU Atwell out there & just like Tavon are to SMALL.Austin was tough though,but couldn’t run a ROUTE to save his Life.
—T. Ferguson is a guy The Rams really like moving forward because he can do it all.Puka is that same type who Big Rob Havenstien said he has WR speed,a TE’s body,& a Fullbacks head.
Well, nobody accept TuTu has great speed, so Daniels will fit right in. What makes the prospect of Daniels so intriguing to me, is his size, catch radius and contested catch rate in college. His 40 time is the same as Bostons for the Browns. We will see how he works out in the next few games.
 
I’m purposely not bringing Klare into the convo because I don’t want the conversation tainted by my posts about him being a wasted draft pick.

But if we’re talking about Klare, he has 4 legitimate NFL TEs in front of him.

That’s not the case at WR.

As for the other.. look.. other than Tutu, and I’m not smart enough to figure out where he belongs in this convo.. the other guys drafted… including Mumpfield, who was drafted in the 7th.. were at least active for almost every game.. and had more than 0 catches.
First off, Klare only has 2 healthy TEs in front of him. That aside, I am certain both him and Daniels will have a lot more visibility the next 2 weeks do to injuries and lack of production by those a head of them. Klare for injuries, Daniels for lack of production. So we should table this for at least after the next game.
 
First off, Klare only has 2 healthy TEs in front of him. That aside, I am certain both him and Daniels will have a lot more visibility the next 2 weeks do to injuries and lack of production by those a head of them. Klare for injuries, Daniels for lack of production. So we should table this for at least after the next game.
I’m talking about why Klare didn’t get playing time sooner.

I also put TE in a different space.. more to learn at that spot, imo.

Daniels has had a much clearer path with no established quality in front of him on the roster.

Whitt & Mumpfield are complete JAGs.. Tutu is treated like one.. Bachman was pointless.

And Daniels couldn’t beat out anyone.
 
A case of "if I keep saying it, it'll be true". Should be lots of examples, eh?
No, it’s just fact.

And you don’t even see it in your own posts…

The only WRs drafted by Rams with McVay to have very successful careers are Kupp and Puka… and both were awesome from minute one.

Thanks for noticing.
 
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So Tutu is the answer after all.

I'll believe it when I see it. Rams have said this BS before countless times and then don't use him. That fool me once, fool me twice quote comes to mind.

I've been promoting using Tutu more. I don't think he is the answer. I do think he needs to run enough routes to help stretch the field and open things up for others. A couple of deep shots if Stafford gets enough time to throw.

Losing Ferguson is a major blow. I think the Rams need to get Keenan Allen to add some size to the WR group with his all around abilities.

CJ Daniels is a bigger target. I guess it's now or never if he is going to get any PT.
 
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