Players that need to go before 2025

[Kupped]

I think it’d be good to revisit the Rams cap situation the year they won the SB.

 

[PhillyRam]

$20 million in dead cap will prevent you from upgrading a few spots on the roster. I draft pick for the Rams won't carry that kind of dead cap if he's cut or traded. Jared Verse had a rookie contract totaling $15 million.

The Eagles had $70M in dead cap this past year and already have nearly $30M in dead cap for this upcoming season. They swing & miss, but remain aggressive. They whiffed on Bryce Huff & Devin White this year. It happens.

If the Rams feel they can upgrade then move on and take the dead cap hit, but also take the cap number savings for each guy. I believe Parkinson & Darrious Williams each shave $3M off of their cap number for 25'. That will help.

 

[OldSchool]

The Eagles had $70M in dead cap this past year and already have nearly $30M in dead cap for this upcoming season. They swing & miss, but remain aggressive. They whiffed on Bryce Huff & Devin White this year. It happens.

If the Rams feel they can upgrade then move on and take the dead cap hit, but also take the cap number savings.l for each guy. I believe Parkinson & Darrious Williams each shave $3M off of their cap number for 25'. That will help.

I'm pretty sure I never said to not cut people or the Rams shouldn't. Go back and look at what I was replying to. And we've all seen the Rams operate with a huge dead cap hit many many years including when they won the Super Bowl.

 

[Allen2McVay]

The Eagles had $70M in dead cap this past year and already have nearly $30M in dead cap for this upcoming season.

The top ten 2024 cap hits for Eagles' players total about $100M.
Add the $70M Dead-$ you referenced, and the total is $170M.

The top ten 2024 cap hits for Rams' players toal about $150M.
The Rams 2024 Dead-$ was $36M (per Spotrac). That totals $186M.

 

[DzRams]

The top ten 2024 cap hits for Eagles' players total about $100M.
Add the $70M Dead-$ you referenced, and the total is $170M.

The top ten 2024 cap hits for Rams' players toal about $150M.
The Rams 2024 Dead-$ was $36M (per Spotrac). That totals $186M.

Why limit it to top 10 cap hits?

The Eagles total cap for 2024 is higher than the Rams' total cap.

 

[OntarioRam]

I'd rather re-structure Kupp than cut him if feasible. When healthy he is still a great weapon. He had many games this year performing at a WR1 level. The problem is... he is often hurt. And he has always been injury prone. So it will likely get worse with age. And he is having trouble bouncing back from the injuries now. So you need to build that into your roster planning and how much you pay him, But he can still be a weapon when he is feeling good, is a great blocker, and even beyond on the field contributions, do not discount his value on young WRs. Puka always credits Kupp for his development. #10 will be invaluable to the next generation of WRs. Keep him in horns. Play with the contract to make it work. He brings too much to the table still to just cast away for some cap savings IMO.

 

[OntarioRam]

Week 2 against the Cardinals last September, Kupp sustained a high ankle sprain that sidelined him for four games just one week after putting up 14 catches for 110 yards and 1 touchdown in the Rams' season-opener against the Lions.

Exactly. Look at his stats. Lots of very, very productive weeks. The dude is not even close to finished talent wise. You just can no longer count on that talent showing up consistently. He has always been injury prone but it is getting worse now with age in terms of frequency and how badly it impacts him. Try and re-structure to account for that. He can still be a major weapon when humming, and when he is not, a good depth piece with great blocking and invaluable WR mentorship attributes. See: Puka. He already has a Super Bowl Ring, tons of millions, and seems to love L.A., playing for McVay and with Stafford, and being a Ram. Gotta wonder if he takes a home town discount on a re-structure.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Why limit it to top 10 cap hits?

The Eagles total cap for 2024 is higher than the Rams' total cap.

 

[Merlin]

McVay will prioritize Kupp's replacement. Doesn't mean that he is moved. But his offense runs on that slot role.

The first two picks McVay made were Everett and Kupp, to ensure that role was good. Everett was a bust, Kupp a star.

We tried to move up for Bowers last year. LaPorta went off the board in front of us the previous draft. This year there are multiple TE options, and WR can be a source position as well.

26 is TE power range. I suspect that weapon for the slot, if it isn't there early, will be taken round 3 or 4. And I expect we add a FA receiver.

Not worrying about cap. Rams will bend what they need to take another shot provided Stafford returns. If he doesn't it will be a rebuild offseason, maybe a trade down.

 

[DzRams]

McVay will prioritize Kupp's replacement. Doesn't mean that he is moved. But his offense runs on that slot role.

The first two picks McVay made were Everett and Kupp, to ensure that role was good. Everett was a bust, Kupp a star.

We tried to move up for Bowers last year. LaPorta went off the board in front of us the previous draft. This year there are multiple TE options, and WR can be a source position as well.

26 is TE power range. I suspect that weapon for the slot, if it isn't there early, will be taken round 3 or 4. And I expect we add a FA receiver.

Not worrying about cap. Rams will bend what they need to take another shot provided Stafford returns. If he doesn't it will be a rebuild offseason, maybe a trade down.

Yep.

I was leaning towards the idea that the Rams will keep Kupp but after hearing his latest interview, I'm not so sure anymore. It feels like Kupp knows he's being moved.

At any rate, I expect earth shaking moves on offense. McVay and Snead don't really wait around or make timid moves. The offense was an issue this year and it won't be brought back in current form...even with future cap consequences.

 

[Merlin]

By the way one reason I think they go TE to replace Kupp is the size. Stafford seems to prioritize size or at least works well with it. He likes to put up catchable balls so that favors guys with catch radius and hands to overcome contact. So worst case, if the draft doesn't fall right for them, they can take a guy like say Tez Johnson or maybe Restrepo, but it's going to be tough for a smaller slot wideout to replace Cooper Kupp. Them are some massive shoes.

If McVay wants this offense back in the 30 ppg range of yesteryear he needs the following:

1. Kupp replacement in the slot.
2. Better threat in the X spot.
3. Jackson locked up at LT or equivalent added in FA.

* Caveat here would be that if a top player falls to them like Jeanty, I think he would instantly elevate this offense so they might get away without items 1 or 2 above.

So speaking to item 1 the ideal way to do it is add one of those promising pass catching TEs at 26.

 

[DzRams]

By the way one reason I think they go TE to replace Kupp is the size. Stafford seems to prioritize size or at least works well with it. He likes to put up catchable balls so that favors guys with catch radius and hands to overcome contact. So worst case, if the draft doesn't fall right for them, they can take a guy like say Tez Johnson or maybe Restrepo, but it's going to be tough for a smaller slot wideout to replace Cooper Kupp. Them are some massive shoes.

If McVay wants this offense back in the 30 ppg range of yesteryear he needs the following:

1. Kupp replacement in the slot.
2. Better threat in the X spot.
3. Jackson locked up at LT or equivalent added in FA.

* Caveat here would be that if a top player falls to them like Jeanty, I think he would instantly elevate this offense so they might get away without items 1 or 2 above.

So speaking to item 1 the ideal way to do it is add one of those promising pass catching TEs at 26.

Xavier Restrepo is my guy. That's my favorite path at the moment to replacing Kupp's slot production. But I can see them going the TE route because that class is deep this year.

 

[Noregar]

Noteboom is gone.

Interesting tidbit - Noteboom was inactive for the game against Philly. The Rams activated AJ Acuri from the PS. and he was active instead of Noteboom.

 

[RamBradford85]

I'd trade Kyren Williams and Cooper Kupp if we could get a third for each of them. I'd also look into trading Jonah Jackson; if he's just sitting on the bench for a guard spot, what's the point?

Rozeboom and Reeder should go. D-Will, possibly Witherspoon, and especially Kendrick could (should in the lattermost) go if we can find an upgrade at corner - which we should. BB3 and Gallimore could go as well, and I wouldn't mind; BB3 is going to get paid, and he doesn't strike me as the type of guy who excels with a second contract.

Noteboom should also go; what's the point of having him if he's just going to be inactive?

I don't know what to do with Higbee. I don't. On one hand, he's saves salary, he's had injury issues, and we have the capability to upgrade him in the draft. On the other, he's our best tight end by far, and Long being an UFA and Parkinson's disappearing act makes him necessary.

Atwell is gone, and thank fate we can close the chapter on his "potential", and that I'll never have to say his name ever again. Robinson's earned himself a huge payday, and Johnson might want to get opportunities as well.

Honestly, I'd say the only two players I'd really want to spend money to keep are A-Jax (even with his unreliability, he's still the best left tackle on the market) and Hoecht (who is actually a solid edge if he's not counted on to be the main guy, which he wasn't this year).

Ain’t nobody giving up a 3rd for kupp

 

[RamBradford85]

Kupp
D Williams
I wouldn’t get rid of kyren but I would sign a more explosive back or give corum a chance
Robinson

 

[RamBradford85]

McVay will prioritize Kupp's replacement. Doesn't mean that he is moved. But his offense runs on that slot role.

The first two picks McVay made were Everett and Kupp, to ensure that role was good. Everett was a bust, Kupp a star.

We tried to move up for Bowers last year. LaPorta went off the board in front of us the previous draft. This year there are multiple TE options, and WR can be a source position as well.

26 is TE power range. I suspect that weapon for the slot, if it isn't there early, will be taken round 3 or 4. And I expect we add a FA receiver.

Not worrying about cap. Rams will bend what they need to take another shot provided Stafford returns. If he doesn't it will be a rebuild offseason, maybe a trade down.

Puka and Whittington can play slot only slot reciver I would get is dude from missouri … Rams need a x receiver

 

[Merlin]

Puka and Whittington can play slot only slot reciver I would get is dude from missouri … Rams need a x receiver

The need at X is not an either/or with the need in the slot. Both are needs.

Whittington is unproven in terms of handling a high volume. And I would not fuck with Puka's role in the scheme. Also they are fragile just as Kupp was. If the Rams can add a Warren or Fannin to that slot role this offense would be damn near impossible to get off the field.

Now at X there are likely going to be options in FA. And the Rams have not been good at drafting that position. So I expect the Rams will take a shot on one to get that role filled before the draft. Which will leave that slot role as one they are looking for in the draft.

 

[Neil039]

Xavier Restrepo is my guy. That's my favorite path at the moment to replacing Kupp's slot production. But I can see them going the TE route because that class is deep this year.

He may be a steal, do you think he lasts until the 3rd? He's my size and that's not big for the NFL. Comparably to Tutu, he's a giant lol

 

[Neil039]

@Merlin IMO once you pass Robinson at depth all are truly expendable (I do like Whittington and hope he develops over the off season). I'd like Robinson back at a team friendly deal. Any players you're eyeing for the X? Just interested.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Puka and Whittington can play slot only slot reciver I would get is dude from missouri … Rams need a x receiver

If your talking about Burden, he'll be gone before we pick.