Pick #57 - Rams select WR Tutu Atwell

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Got to say the thought of us using a 4/5 WR set would be very challenging to cover both DJ and Tutu deep.
 

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these kids opinions are as valid as anyone posting on these boards - but no more so. Hosting a podcast or writing a blog does not make you a football mind.

Evaluation from actual football minds seems to be pretty positive for this pick the more I look at it. Some negatives - but not many.

True. But the "actual football minds" tend to backward rationalize bad decisions because they care about what others think of them.
 

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True. But the "actual football minds" tend to backward rationalize bad decisions because they care about what others think of them.

Yeah - thats fair. I just know that player evaluation is a really fun hobby that anyone can get into and have an opinion about - including really strong opinions - myself included. But there is a world of difference between people who do it professionally and people who do it as a hobby.
 

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Yeah - thats fair. I just know that player evaluation is a really fun hobby that anyone can get into and have an opinion about - including really strong opinions - myself included. But there is a world of difference between people who do it professionally and people who do it as a hobby.

I just posted it for entertainment purposes. I don't think his opinion is more valid than yours or others on the board. I just happen to agree with him and it's easier to just link to his rant than write my own. ;)
 

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I just posted it for entertainment purposes. I don't think his opinion is more valid than yours or others on the board. I just happen to agree with him and it's easier to just link to his rant than write my own. ;)
I didn’t mean it to be a jab at you - and I don’t dislike Jake - I just think that sometimes tossing out a website or a podcast seems to give people credibility that isn’t necessarily warranted.
 

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One thing is for sure... McVay wanted more speed out of the receiving group, so he went and got Jackson and Tutu. This will make it easier to make big plays and get downfield quicker and easier... exactly what McVay talked about when he traded Goff. Funny thing is, I thought it was more of a QB problem than a receiver issue.

A few of us have been pointing out for some time that lack of a deep threat was a serious issue irrespective of the qb. McVay admitted as much in a January press conference. Now he is addressing it. We'll see how DSJ and Atwell work out on the field, but imo this is directionally the right way to go and good news for Stafford and the O.
 

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A few of us have been pointing out for some time that lack of a deep threat was a serious issue irrespective of the qb. McVay admitted as much in a January press conference. Now he is addressing it. We'll see how DSJ and Atwell work out on the field, but imo this is directionally the right way to go and good news for Stafford and the O.
i'm hoping this is our version of Tyrek Hill, without the stupid gene
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Got to say the thought of us using a 4/5 WR set would be very challenging to cover both DJ and Tutu deep.

Stafford has run a ton of this over the years. His ability to read the defense pre snap and adjust routes as necessary will make this even tougher to stop. I go back to Richard Sherman talking about Stafford after the trade to LA and he talked about how incredible he is at the line and playing mind games with the defense by audibling, etc. He described a 2-min drive to win a game VS Seattle where Detroit went 5 Wide and no huddle the entire way down the field, and he said Stafford couldn't be stopped. Drove down to the goal like then quick snapped a QB sneak and won the game.

With our new WR depth chart I do expect us to run some 4WR sets this year for sure.
 

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Why is everyone comparing Tutu to Tavon? I see him more as a more raw DeSean Jackson II, ... and we have the original mold to help shape his NFL game. However, Tutu definitely needs to seriously muscle up as much as possible without lessening that Warp Nine speed & quickness.
Tutu isn't Tavon. They're not similar. He's more like Donnie Avery than Tavon (if we're talking Rams busts), frankly.
 

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i'm hoping this is our version of Tyrek Hill, without the stupid gene
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I'm hoping that too, but not predicting anything just yet.

McVay must have had Hill in mind as the role he was trying to fill. If Atwell can step up to anything near Hill's level this pick will be a home run.
 

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The good news is Atwell will stretch the field for the Rams and help as a return specialist. The downside to Atwell is his weight and durability. Hopefully his 150 lb bodyweight can take the punishment of the NFL.

It can't. He can't. This was a terrible terrible pick at #57 over all. Geez!
What kind of joke is Snead and Mcvay playing here?
Watch Tutu's "highlights" and see how he will NEVER break one tackle, not even an arm tackle, and he will always pretty much go out of bounds. Way too small. We could have had a GREAT Center at that pick.
 

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Tutu highlights. What I see. Better receiver that Austin both in routes and hands. Similar catch radius, i.e small. Not a YAC guy as always runs for the sideline. Seems more fluid without ball. Didn't see one jet sweep where he took it inside. I think he will struggle with press. My guess is will be used in motion alot to get free release. Not sure we will excel as a deep threat. Question him as a returner also.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWL5Xez7bKI

Not a YAC guy???

The ONLY player in all of college football during his time in college with more YAC was Devonta Smith.

The dude's a YAC monster.

I agree that he's not the RB type runner that Tavon was.

What I like is that he's more slippery which translates better to the next level.

I think Tutu being a much better WR is the point. It's why DJax has had the career he's had and Tavon didn't live remotely up to projections (and I was ecstatic when we drafted Tavon and just drooled over his highlights even as folks made the same size complaints).

Also, and I want to be delicate, I don't think Tavon had the smarts to process McVay's offense which won't be a problem for Tutu. And I say that with love as I truly think if our Special Teams hadn't held, Austin would have become like a Dante Hall type specialist.
 

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Not a YAC guy???

The ONLY player in all of college football during his time in college with more YAC was Devonta Smith.

The dude's a YAC monster.

I agree that he's not the RB type runner that Tavon was.

What I like is that he's more slippery which translates better to the next level.

I think Tutu being a much better WR is the point. It's why DJax has had the career he's had and Tavon didn't live remotely up to projections (and I was ecstatic when we drafted Tavon and just drooled over his highlights even as folks made the same size complaints).

Also, and I want to be delicate, I don't think Tavon had the smarts to process McVay's offense which won't be a problem for Tutu. And I say that with love as I truly think if our Special Teams hadn't held, Austin would have become like a Dante Hall type specialist.
Like i said i was going baes on highlights. with ball in hand i saw straight line speed with little wiggle. He always took it to the sideline. He sowed more fluidness when running routes. I hope i am wrong.
 

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In the last two seasons, only three receivers in college football had more yards after the catch than Atwell. He picked up 988 yards after the catch since 2019, which ranked third in the country, according to Pro Football Focus’ Sosa Kremenjas.

He also had 70 first downs and 40 plays of 15-plus yards, ranking 12th and ninth in college football since 2019, respectively.
He will never get that kind of yards after the catch in the NFL. He will go down with one hand on him. He is to small. College there are a lot of bad tacklers. Picture him against the Niners or Seahawks. They don't miss many tackles.
 

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He will never get that kind of yards after the catch in the NFL. He will go down with one hand on him. He is to small. College there are a lot of bad tacklers. Picture him against the Niners or Seahawks. They don't miss many tackles.

True, but you still have to get your hands on him. The guy is so tiny, he's like a puff of smoke or all stealth digital in an analogue league. Of course, if you do get your hands on him, he may snap like a twig.
 

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Who knows? By the time the strength & conditioning coach gets through with him, Tutu might even increase! his speed as well as his strength.
 

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Now that he's a RAM, I hope he as well as all of our draftees exceed both expectations as well as their individual potential.

Hope Tutu lights it up like DJax has all these years.