Patriots proving you don't have get a vet QB to be a contender...

[PhillyRam]

....and they are a contender with cap space for the next 4-5 yrs since they are not paying $25M plus for a QB.

So a defensive minded coach can develop a mid first rounder but our genius can't?

Just shows McVay can only win one way and we have seen that these last few weeks. That is his weakness. It has to change or he will be at best another Don Coryell, Mike Martz, Sam Wyche, even Andy Reid who if not for hitting a gold mine in Mahomes still wouldn't have won a SB.

All good coaches with solid careers, but limited.

 

[Kupped]

BB is the GOAT.

 

[rdlkgliders]

Having easily the best coach and staff in the modern era sure helps

 

[Faceplant]

How the hell someone gonna give Kupped an inappropriate for that??

MODERATOR: Removed.

 

[Jacobarch]

How the hell someone gonna give Kupped an inappropriate for that??

There's some ... unique people on this board.

 

[Ballhawk]

BB's defenses are unreal and he has proven many times that no matter who is his QB, they just need to not screw up to win.

Of course that is all tarnished by his cheating!

 

[UnknownREknown]

Fuck the patriots.

 

[Angry Ram]

Atlanta is that bad dude. Mac didn't have to do much.

The snark continues.

 

[Ramer]

BB's next career move...

 

[FarNorth]

Atlanta is that bad dude. Mac didn't have to do much.

The snark continues.

Think I saw: Patriots 7th straight game 120+ yards rushing.

 

[Flint]

From the looks of things he did quite a job turning Goff into a SB qb but how much do we really know about the pats with wins against the jets twice, the panthers, the chargers, the browns and falcons.
Can this guy become Brady 2.0? Who knows, but we’ll see what they’re made of coming down the stretch with the bills and titans coming up

 

[Ramlock]

....and they are a contender with cap space for the next 4-5 yrs since they are not paying $25M plus for a QB.

So a defensive minded coach can develop a mid first rounder but our genius can't?

Just shows McVay can only win one way and we have seen that these last few weeks. That is his weakness. It has to change or he will be at best another Don Coryell, Mike Martz, Sam Wyche, even Andy Reid who if not for hitting a gold mine in Mahomes still wouldn't have won a SB.

All good coaches with solid careers, but limited.

Hard to agree with all that…

 

[dieterbrock]

Not bad for a "finesse" team

 

[Ellard80]

ehhh they are hot right now... from the way this league is right now - shit could turn the other way in a flash.

 

[Ellard80]

....and they are a contender with cap space for the next 4-5 yrs since they are not paying $25M plus for a QB.

So a defensive minded coach can develop a mid first rounder but our genius can't?

Just shows McVay can only win one way and we have seen that these last few weeks. That is his weakness. It has to change or he will be at best another Don Coryell, Mike Martz, Sam Wyche, even Andy Reid who if not for hitting a gold mine in Mahomes still wouldn't have won a SB.

All good coaches with solid careers, but limited.

i guess you missed last year... when they made the playoffs with defense and running the ball...

or our super bowl run where we mostly just ran the ball at the end of the year.

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

But what about the other rookie QBs?

Trevor Lawrence
Zach Wilson
Trey Lance
Justin Fields

They aren't playing that well. And you can look at second year guys like Hurts and Tua. Herbert's the only one that's playing well from that group.

The Patriots happened to draft the right guy for their system.

 

[Ellard80]

But what about the other rookie QBs?

Trevor Lawrence
Zach Wilson
Trey Lance
Justin Fields

They aren't playing that well. And you can look at second year guys like Hurts and Tua. Herbert's the only one that's playing well from that group.

The Patriots happened to draft the right guy for their system.

plus its just 5 games... Herbert has been struggling lately after he was already crowned lord Zeus.

 

[Ramstien]

Oh, for the days of Chuck Knox and John Robinson.

 

[Psycho_X]

Oh, for the days of Chuck Knox and John Robinson.

The days of never making it to the Super Bowl?

 

[PhillyRam]

i guess you missed last year... when they made the playoffs with defense and running the ball...

or our super bowl run where we mostly just ran the ball at the end of the year.

You mean last yr where he got away from the run enough where we ended up losing the division, thus not having home field advantage and ultimately put us in GB playing the Packers coming off a bye?

And no I didn't forget about 18' and the Dallas playoff game... But apparently McVay did.

See, every pass happy coach has a coming to Jesus moment and gets back to the run. Have seen that here in Philly for yrs with Reid & Pederson and even recently with their new guy.

The key is do you stick with it or is it just a short term mindset that evaporates over time?

With McVay it's short term because he is convinced he has to win using 11 personnel and throwing it 35-40 times a game.