Patrick Mahomes greatest QB of all time?

[BonifayRam]

No, but he is by far my most favorite QB to sit back & watch him play.

Currently, present day NFL......he would be rated as my #1 QB in the NFL. No other QB comes close to him.

Once his new contract kicks in @ KC Mahomes will be just like Russel Wilson has been the last few seasons.

 

[dieterbrock]

It’s funny how people are saying that the system and the players are the reason why Mahomes is good. It seems to be a little conflicting.! Just give the guy his props right now he’s at the top of his game and those players people are mentioning got better because of him the offensive line looks better because he reads defensives he calls out blitz’s and he know how to avoid the rush. Him, Breeze, Rodgers, Wilson makes the entire team better that’s what a transcendent talent at QB can do. Goff on the other hand idk he throws for a lot of yards but he’s managed too much they need to let him loose so he can actually grow and that’s on McVay

I agree on Mahomes, he is on another level.
However you're being contradictory regarding Goff. Woods, Cooks and Gurley have all had career highs while Goff is their QB. Not sure why the others get all the credit, and yet he doesn't? Goff's not Mahomes, not in his league, but you cant accuse others of contradiction, then do it yourself

 

[kurtfaulk]

Woods, Cooks and Gurley have all had career highs while Goff is their QB. Not sure why the others get all the credit, and yet he doesn't?

Because that was all mcvay.

Only when the bad stuff happens is it Goff.

I'm on my phone so the blue font doesn't work. But you get the drift.

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[tempests]

I only say that in the presence of Patriot fans. Easily the most insecure fanbase in the NFL, the idea of a different AFC team and QB going to the Super Bowl frightens them to their very core.

Mahomes is a great regular season QB who has raised his play in the postseason and lifted his team along with him. You can't ask for more from a QB, who is a walking highlight reel and has the mobility, arm, and brains to demoralize almost any defense.

 

[Ehardo]

If the Rams would not have went all in on Goff in 2016 and kept all their picks. After a bad year and new coach McVay we would have been in the QB market in the 2017 draft. Just wonder who MCVay would have picked between Mahomes or Watson. Just wondering what the Rams team would look like with all those picks back that we gave to the Titans for Goff.

 

[Merlin]

 

[Dodgersrf]

If the Rams would not have went all in on Goff in 2016 and kept all their picks. After a bad year and new coach McVay we would have been in the QB market in the 2017 draft. Just wonder who MCVay would have picked between Mahomes or Watson. Just wondering what the Rams team would look like with all those picks back that we gave to the Titans for Goff.

Merged with 1 of the 2 Mahomes threads we already have.

 

[RamFan503]

No shit - eh?

 

[Dxmissile]

I agree on Mahomes, he is on another level.
However you're being contradictory regarding Goff. Woods, Cooks and Gurley have all had career highs while Goff is their QB. Not sure why the others get all the credit, and yet he doesn't? Goff's not Mahomes, not in his league, but you cant accuse others of contradiction, then do it yourself

That was my point exactly, I did that on purpose.People wanna say Mahomes is all scheme and all weapons but say the exact opposite of Goff. And Gurley seasons highs was because of Gurley Goff best years was because the offense ran through Gurley we tried to run the offense through Goff this year with mixed results to say the least. While Woods did set career highs the potential was always there he was just on a shitty run first team and cooks was a proven commodity. I just think Goff is more Scheme dependent than Mahomes

 

[dieterbrock]

That was my point exactly, I did that on purpose.People wanna say Mahomes is all scheme and all weapons but say the exact opposite of Goff. And Gurley seasons highs was because of Gurley Goff best years was because the offense ran through Gurley we tried to run the offense through Goff this year with mixed results to say the least. While Woods did set career highs the potential was always there he was just on a shitty run first team and cooks was a proven commodity. I just think Goff is more Scheme dependent than Mahomes

Cant have it both ways man.
Neither guy is product of their scheme, and while they've both raised the talent level on their teams, they are blessed with having extremely talented skill position players to work with. Still and all, they make them better.
Woods was heavily outperformed by Watkins in Buffalo under same set of circumstances. Now Woods is outperforming Watkins thanks to Goff. Cooks had his career high in YPG, and best career catch rate over 100 targets, and Gurley as a receiving threat crushed his career numbers.
Likewise, Kelce and Hill were great players already in KC and have ascended to higher levels with Mahomes.