Outcoached?

[Bootleg]

Maybe the Rams simply didn't want it as bad as the Bears.

The Bears are hungry, battling for their division and the Rams have theirs' sown up. It's hard to get up mentally and physically for a cold weather away game that doesn't mean that much. This could also explain the Saints struggles of late, too.

 

[JackKirbyFan]

McVay is still the best HC in the league. The Rams will do what is necessary to earn a bye and they will win two games in the playoffs and head for the Georgia Dome to play in the Super Bowl. They are still a superior team to any other in the NFC. You'll see--all you Ram haters on this board.

 

[Liberator]

so it is ok to play like crap on the road ? you do realize that it is possible to have to play a playoff game on the road ?

It's so unlikely that the Rams play more then one playoff game on the road in a non neutral space. Besides, if they choke that badly this whole conversation won't be needed because they will be one and done anyway because it means they'll be stinking up the joint.

But no it's not "okay" to be bad on the road it's just understandable and something you can fix. If he was bad at home I don't know how you fix that since he's never really been bad at home in over a year.

 

[Rainram]

Yep.

I get it, McVay doesn't trust these kids the same as he does Malcolm Brown, but now is the time to get them meaningful reps and get them to earn that trust a bit. Gurley can't be out there every play. And when he's out of the game, teams still have respect the run. That's just fact.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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mcvay was adamant he put the team in bad situations. he only repeated it about ten times during his press conference. he'll go back and look at the tape, see what he did wrong, see what the players did wrong, then work his arse off correcting the whole mess.

i guess we'll see a much better outfit this week against the eagles. hopefully we'll see 40+ points.

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[kurtfaulk]

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[Psycho_X]

Baldinger has begun to break down the Rams/Bears game if you can stomach it. He's only got one tweet up so far but it shows how much the Bears manhandled our o-line. Also, it looks like the Bears may have deciphered, or at least had a good idea, our QBs signals and audibles based on how the DE reacts to Goff's call at the line almost instantly. Might explain how the Bears seemed to always be going exactly where they should have been.


View: https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1072542860526931968

 

[Ramstien]

I know nobody wants to hear it but sometimes having a game like this can be beneficial and serve as a wake up call. You can't just show up and expect to win the game. You must grow from a loss like this and learn from it or it will continue to happen. This next game will show how creative the coaches are and also how the players respond to being punched in the mouth.

 

[Merlin]

"Outcoached" is the most abused term used by fans. Truth is that the only way you could say that happened is by knowing the scheme that was drawn up was bad and that the players had nothing to do with it.

Which is BS.

Rams got whipped all over the field by the Bears PLAYERS. Now I am sure some portion of the gameplan put forth by McVay was not up to his usual quality, but to put the entire thing on him is an oversimplification. On offense alone our OL was beat over and over again, our wideouts were beat over and over again, and our young QB turned into a football dispenser.

The problem here is that way too many Rams fans think this roster is that much better than everyone else's. IT'S NOT. We have an offense that can embarrass poor teams, but with the right defensive personnel our offense can be limited, particularly when our young QB lost his safety blanket wideout option who gives him a blitz/pressure-beating option. IMO the loss of Kupp was absolutely enormous and it is vs the best defenses where we're really going to see it.

Good thing here, however, is that we have a chance to do something in the playoffs. So personally I'm going to enjoy watching us make our run, however long it lasts. If Goff has a meltdown in the playoffs so be it. Grow and move on to next year. If our defense fails so be it. Reload next year and enjoy another playoff season under our fine staff. That's right, I said "fine staff." And I just think the way Rams nation has turned against our coaches (first Wade Phillips and now Sean McVay) is ignorant and frankly disgusting.

 

[Jacobarch]

"Outcoached" is the most abused term used by fans. Truth is that the only way you could say that happened is by knowing the scheme that was drawn up was bad and that the players had nothing to do with it.

Which is BS.

Rams got whipped all over the field by the Bears PLAYERS. Now I am sure some portion of the gameplan put forth by McVay was not up to his usual quality, but to put the entire thing on him is an oversimplification. On offense alone our OL was beat over and over again, our wideouts were beat over and over again, and our young QB turned into a football dispenser.

The problem here is that way too many Rams fans think this roster is that much better than everyone else's. IT'S NOT. We have an offense that can embarrass poor teams, but with the right defensive personnel our offense can be limited, particularly when our young QB lost his safety blanket wideout option who gives him a blitz/pressure-beating option. IMO the loss of Kupp was absolutely enormous and it is vs the best defenses where we're really going to see it.

Good thing here, however, is that we have a chance to do something in the playoffs. So personally I'm going to enjoy watching us make our run, however long it lasts. If Goff has a meltdown in the playoffs so be it. Grow and move on to next year. If our defense fails so be it. Reload next year and enjoy another playoff season under our fine staff. That's right, I said "fine staff." And I just think the way Rams nation has turned against our coaches (first Wade Phillips and now Sean McVay) is ignorant and frankly disgusting.

Lots of Chicken Little's out there

 

[Rmfnlt]

well the bears figured out how to stop it

Kromer is the offensive line coach, correct? I think he was outcoached. The line looked like they could backpedal almost as fast as the Bears line could rush.

Yeah... you can have the best scheme and best coaches... but, if you don't have real players that can execute it all, you generally lose.
The Bears had a good game plan... but, more importantly, the players to execute it. They're a very good defense.
What this guys says...

Rams got whipped all over the field by the Bears PLAYERS.

you do realize that it is possible to have to play a playoff game on the road ?

WHAT??? Say it ain't so, Joe!! You do realize that it is possible for a visiting team to win in a playoff game? I'm not gonna lie... if the Rams have to go to CHI... or NO... or maybe even DAL, it won't be easy. But it's not some sort of death sentence. Let's not make it out like it is.

mcvay was adamant he put the team in bad situations. he only repeated it about ten times during his press conference. he'll go back and look at the tape, see what he did wrong, see what the players did wrong, then work his arse off correcting the whole mess.

And I admire his humility and honestly... problem for me is... he's done this before (kicked his own ass)... and he went and did it again Sunday night.

You want to say you're gonna learn by it? Then LEARN by it!

 

[Jacobarch]

I also want to point out that people say McVay doesn't run enough, Gurely leads the league in Rushing before the Chi game. He runs enough he just didn't do in the Chicago game.

 

[Liberator]

I also want to point out that people say McVay doesn't run enough, Gurely leads the league in Rushing before the Chi game. He runs enough he just didn't do in the Chicago game.

It's also important to take in to account the physicality of that game. Imagine if they ran Gurley 25 times and he got hurt on top of the Rams losing? Would be red alert in here.

 

[KCLARAM FAN]

I also want to point out that people say McVay doesn't run enough, Gurely leads the league in Rushing before the Chi game. He runs enough he just didn't do in the Chicago game.

He runs enough he just did not run him enough in the chicago game. I just dont understand Mcveys thinking in that game.He has called some really brilliant games but this one was not one of them. I knew going in this would be a tough game for them.

see i can accept it that we lost but unlike the new orleans game,i CANNOT accept the WAY we lost. Guyley is their best weapon on offense,WHY not go down using your best weapon? you got to feed him the ball. The thing that was really frustrating to me and had to be to the others here,is in the second half when he DID start giving Gurly the ball,Gurley started breaking some big runs but then Mcvey went back to passing it. I could understand getting away from the run and abondoning it if it was blowout like the saints game was at one time but that was NOT the case,they were ALWAYS close so that made no sense.

Al Michales even mentioned he could not understand WHY Mcvey was not using him saying he could not understand why he only ran him five times in the fist half remember?. again like i said,mcvey has called some brillant games many times,but this one was not one of them,this was his worst game. I sure hope he does not do that is the playoffs.NOT in a close game again.

 

[Adi]

Punched in tbe mouth , punked. Those both sound better than outcoached.

Our guys were not ready for that and they were embarrased . I like Sean taking the blame but this also falls on the players not manning up and scoring more than 6 points on a team that the giants just torched

 

[Karate61]

I just dont understand Mcveys thinking in that game.He has called some really brilliant games but this one was not one of them. I knew going in this would be a tough game for them.

Yeah. I agree. Play calling seemed very strange. It was almost like the Bears were somehow in the perfect defense for every play the Rams ran. Did the Bears video tape the Rams walkthrough? Sure seems like they did.

 

[brasilcalif]

Punched in tbe mouth , punked. Those both sound better than outcoached.

Our guys were not ready for that and they were embarrased . I like Sean taking the blame but this also falls on the players not manning up and scoring more than 6 points on a team that the giants just torched

The giants ran the ball and saquon barkley is a monster , might even be better than gurley . But yeah 6 points when compared to 30 the giants put on them is pathetic .

 

[KCLARAM FAN]

The giants ran the ball and saquon barkley is a monster , might even be better than gurley . But yeah 6 points when compared to 30 the giants put on them is pathetic .

i think the reason the Giants put up so many points on them is the Bears D was looking ahead to the Rams game and prepared for two weeks mostly for them instead of the Giants.one of those trap games for the Bears where they too the opponent lightly.Its stupid that teams do that but they do that all the time in the NFL. Man i NEVER took bad team lightly in high scool.

 

[Rams43]

Yeah, this was truly an unusual game.

McVay and his staff were outcoached. Yeah, I said it. McVay rarely gets outcoached but he got bitch slapped by Nagy and his staff.

And the Rams got out executed by a wide margin. Another very rare thing.

If someone had told me that the Rams would only allow 15 points to the Bears, I would have assumed we win in a 3 score rout at a minimum.

If someone had told me that the Rams only would score 6 points, I would have called that a poor QUARTER.

To see the wheels fall off of every single part of the Ram O simultaneously was jaw dropping.

Like I said, this was a very unusual game.

 

[Merlin]

The Bears had a good game plan... but, more importantly, the players to execute it. They're a very good defense.

Yeah and what is interesting is looking at the NFC playoff field there are already two teams who have done a great job shutting down the Rams outside zone running game, both of which resulted in Rams losses. There is a good chance that Dallas also has the defensive personnel to cause us problems there as well.

And if that happens then all of a sudden the loss of Kupp is magnified. Because he's our young QB's security blanket, and the guy who gets instant separation for quick gainers not to mention crucial situations.

McVay is in a tough spot right now. He's got to find a way to compensate for that loss of Kupp vs these better defenses he will see in the playoffs. He won't see all three of them, but he's going to see one or two defenses that can put his scheme into third and longs by virtue of stuffing that outside zone game. And when that happens this offense will require Goff to make throws into the teeth of a rush. He did that quite well vs New Orleans, but it's definitely a concern overall going into the playoffs and IMO if an answer presents itself it is probably going to be the TEs.