Only Kirk Cousins Could Be an $84M Bust and an MVP Dark Horse at the Same Time

[TexasRam]

HOF Troy Aikmen QB Rating 81.6

 

[kurtfaulk]

HOF Kurt Warner 93.7 QB Rating

Kirk Cousins 97.0 QB Rating

Kurt Warner played with Faulk, Bruce, Holt and Hakeem then Fitzgerald and Bolden.

you can't compare the passer rating for qbs from different eras. with the way the rules have changed you'd probably have to take the passer ratings now down by 20 compared to qbs back then.

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[TexasRam]

you can't compare the passer rating for qbs from different eras. with the way the rules have changed you'd probably have to take the passer ratings now down by 20 compared to qbs back then.

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Sure you can:

Tom Brady 2003 85.9
Tom Brady 2013 87.3
Tom Brady 2019 88.2

Peyton Manning 2000 94.7
Peyton Manning 2010 91.9

Phillip Rivers 2006 92.0
Phillip Rivers 2016 87.9

 

[kurtfaulk]

Sure you can:

Tom Brady 2003 85.9
Tom Brady 2013 87.3
Tom Brady 2019 88.2

Peyton Manning 2000 94.7
Peyton Manning 2010 91.9

Phillip Rivers 2006 92.0
Phillip Rivers 2016 87.9

i'm not sure if you're being serious or not with your cherry picking stats.

look at the league average passer rating throughout the years.

NFL Season By Season Passing | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Check out the NFL Season By Season Passing Stats including league totals and averages and more on Pro-football-reference.com

www.pro-football-reference.com

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[Raptorman]

Sure you can:

Tom Brady 2003 85.9
Tom Brady 2013 87.3
Tom Brady 2019 88.2

Peyton Manning 2000 94.7
Peyton Manning 2010 91.9

Phillip Rivers 2006 92.0
Phillip Rivers 2016 87.9

No, you can't. The rules have changed big time. Passer ratings from before the 1980's are always lower because of the rules. The WR's were literally mugged by the DB's going down the field. Today you would be screaming DPI on every play if you saw it. Then they changed again when they started protecting the QB. The NFL has been pushing more scoring for years to help boost ratings. Although, I don't think the actual scores have gone up.

 

[RamsSince1969]

I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Cousins due to his honest and heartfelt props to Goff, at mid-field, after that 2018 Thursday Night Football thriller. Good dude.

 

[LesBaker]

You’re also the guy that said the Giants regret letting Rivers go for Eli so I understand.

So now Eli Manning is a better QB than Phillip Rivers?

 

[LesBaker]

i'm not sure if you're being serious or not with your cherry picking stats.

look at the league average passer rating throughout the years.

NFL Season By Season Passing | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Check out the NFL Season By Season Passing Stats including league totals and averages and more on Pro-football-reference.com

www.pro-football-reference.com

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This chart is fascinating.

 

[DVontel]

So now Eli Manning is a better QB than Phillip Rivers?

I’m pretty sure Charger fans would love having those two SBs Eli earned.

 

[Classic Rams]

Ah, rule changes. Here are some from each year with a few added teams that appear to be affected most. Keep in mind roster/coaching changes and other x-factors may also be the case.
(I was bored!)

1972: hash marks moved in to boost offense. (defenses now could not use sideline as extra defender)
Highest points scored adjustment from 1971: Dolphins, Redskins, Steelers
Super Bowl: Dolphins 14, Redskins 7

1974: Goalposts moved to back of end zone. (to open up end zone pass patterns)
Biggest jump in passing TDs from 1973: Vikings, Raiders, Cardinals
Super Bowl: Steelers 16, Vikings 6

1976: Facemask penalties enforced (5 for incidental, 15 for twisting/pulling)
Most defensive penalties (facemasks unavailable): Bucs, Oilers, Seahawks
Most 1st downs allowed by penalty: Broncos, Saints, Raiders
Super Bowl: Raiders 32, Vikings 14

1977: Headslap is outlawed. (Deacon used it a lot, Youngblood was his protégé)
Biggest decline in sacks from 1976: 49ers (-19), Oilers (-18), Vikings (-15)
Rams: 45 in 1976, 36 in 1977
Youngblood: 12.5 in 1976, 7 in 1977
Super Bowl: Cowboys 27, Broncos 10

1978: Outlawed contact with receivers beyond 5 yards, OL can extend arms blocking
League totals before/after: 1977: 388 TD passes/1978: 468 TD passes
Biggest jump passing yards/TDs: Chargers (both; before Coryell), Saints (yards), Steelers (TDs)
Super Bowl: Steelers 35, Cowboys 31

1981: chop block eliminated from pass plays (9ers were notorious for this even after changes)
Biggest drop in passing yards/TDs from 1980: Saints, Rams (minus Ferragamo), Eagles (yards)
Super Bowl: 49ers 26, Bengals 21

1981: Stickum is outlawed (Lester Hayes Rule), Biletnikoff retired in 1978
Biggest drop in catches from 1980: Jefferson (-43), Earl Cooper (-32), William Andrews (-30)
Biggest drop in interceptions: Hayes (-10), he had 13 in 1980

1984: Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty for prolonged celebration (Gastineau & Fun Bunch rule)
Most celebration penalties: data unavailable
Super Bowl: Raiders 39, Redskins 6

1985: Quarterback kneeldown (victory formation) enforced
Largest margin of QB rushing yardage from 1984: Dickey (-18), Marino (-17)
Super Bowl: Bears 46, Patriots 10

1993: spike added to stop the game clock
Most clock-stopping spikes: data unavailable
First fake spike for TD: Dan Marino (1994)
Super Bowl: Cowboys 30, Bills 13

1994: 2 point conversion added
Most 2-point conversions made: Dolphins 6, Browns-Oilers-Seahawks-Vikings 4
Super Bowl: 49ers 49, Chargers 26

1999: Instant Replay with challenge flags
Most Instant Replay challenges: data unavailable
Super Bowl: Rams 24, Titans 17

1999: Tuck Rule
Teams who benefited most: Jets 2001 (vs Patriots), Patriots 2001 (2002 playoffs vs Raiders)
Rams: Kurt Warner got the benefit of the tuck rule twice in 2001 reg season.

2001: Taunting and Roughing the Passer fouls strictly enforced
Roughing the passer penalties: 2000 - 75, 2001 - 77
Taunting penalties: 14
Super Bowl: *Patriots 20-17

2005: Outlawed the Horse Collar tackle (Roy Williams Rule)
Horse Collar Tackle penalties: data unavailable
Super Bowl: Steelers 21, Seahawks 10

2006: Defenders prohibited from hitting passer in the knee
Hitting passer in the knee penalties: data unavailable
Super Bowl: Colts 29, Bears 17

2010: Overtime extended for playoffs
First New Overtime playoff game: 2012 playoffs - Broncos 29, Steelers 23
Super Bowl: Packers 31, Steelers 25

2011: Defenseless player rule enforced
Hitting defenseless player penalties: data unavailable
Super Bowl: Giants 21, Patriots 17

2012: Overtime extended for reg season
First New Overtime reg season game (when FG was the 1st score): Texans 43, Jag-wahs 37
Super Bowl: Ravens 34, 49ers 31

How the game has changed penalty-wise:

Off Holding: 1994 - 614, 2018 - 704
Roughing the Passer: 1994 - 58, 2018 - 114
Unnecessary Roughness: 1994 - 83, 2018 - 204
Taunting: 1994 - 3, 2018 - 24
Pass Interference: 1994 - 208, 2018 - Def 236, Off 83
False Start: 1994 - 454, 2018 - 566

Okay this turned into a project lol so I'm leaving out a lot of other stuff including additional & extended rule changes. Originally wanted to list these to signify changes that effect QB ratings, what teams may have benefited... and a lot of other factors involved. Game has changed a lot, we all know that much!

 

[Mojo Ram]

Roughing the Passer: 1994 - 58, 2018 - 114
Unnecessary Roughness: 1994 - 83, 2018 - 204

Would like to see number of QB injuries with these stats. Me thinks they haven't subsided much.

 

[Classic Rams]

Would like to see number of QB injuries with these stats. Me thinks they haven't subsided much.

1994:

3 QBs lost for the season: wk 5 Carlson (Oilers), wk 9 Beuerlien (Cardinals), wk 10 Mitchell (Lions).

Chris Miller (Rams) missed 6 games from 2 concussions.
Erik Kramer (Bears) missed 11 games throughout season (shoulder)
wk 9 Troy Aikman was decked (helmet to chin during a released throw) by Wilbur Marshall (Cardinals) and had to leave the game (concussion). No penalty.


2018:

wk 2 Marcus Mariotta - missed 2 games (elbow & stinger), replaced by Gabbert, who was knocked out of next game (concussion)
wk 3 Jimmy Garappolo - torn ACL vs Chiefs, lost for season
wk 9 Joe Flacco - hip injury vs Pittsburgh, missed 7 games, Lamar Jackson became starter
wk 11 Alex Smith - gruesome leg injury vs Texans, lost for season - wk 13 backup Colt McCoy (broken leg), out rest of season
wk 12 Andy Dalton - (thumb), out remainder of season
Josh Allen - missed 4 games (elbow)
Sam Darnold - missed 3 games (foot)
Cam Newton - missed last 2 games (shoulder)