NFL refs need to crack a physics book

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At this point with all the bloated rules and grey area... they're just making shit up as they go. Even when they bring in Blandino on a PI he comes with "Well.....when it's 4th down near the end of a game...."

Whaaaat? It's either a penalty or it's not dude. Tbh, that type of response from the NY figure heads just confirms to me that the NFL referees are really just parity police.
 

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I have always said that the default call should be incomplete pass if the ball went forward. Unless the ball is slapped by the defender from behind it has to be a forward pass.
So let’s say a QB is pulling his arm back to throw....so the arm is raised but moving backward....a defender hits the back of the hand knocking the ball forward. This would
be an incomplete pass?
 

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Blandino said the ball has to be going forward with a controlled motion. That's the first time I've ever heard that.

Recently we heard that the whistle isn't supposed to be blown on a potential turnover. But when Rudolph switched hands and flung the ball forward (uncontrolled?) The refs blew it dead.

The Rams stunk it up. Goff, the OLine, Kupp and McVay all had a hand in this, but the refs sealed the deal IMO. It's one thing to just lose, but it sucks to lose a close game that a few bad calls by the refs helps decide the final outcome.

This happened to me twice this weekend. First my college team loses in a close one with some very questionable calls by the refs and then my Pro team loses the same way. It was a rough football weekend. I don't know why I invest so much of myself in this game. My overall interest has been waning a bit, but I always set aside time to watch the actual game. I could be doing more productive things that don't leave me feeling so frustrated.
 

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This happened to me twice this weekend. First my college team loses in a close one with some very questionable calls by the refs and then my Pro team loses the same way. It was a rough football weekend. I don't know why I invest so much of myself in this game. My overall interest has been waning a bit, but I always set aside time to watch the actual game. I could be doing more productive things that don't leave me feeling so frustrated.

Not to one-up you, but it also happened to our local Middle School in the Championship game last night. We were up by a TD late in the 4th and it was 3rd and 42 due to personal fouls, and the refs called 5 consecutive defensive penalties (and gave them 4 timeouts!) to give them the winning TD on the last play of the game.

But I expect poor officiating at that level :)
 

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At this point with all the bloated rules and grey area... they're just making shit up as they go. Even when they bring in Blandino on a PI he comes with "Well.....when it's 4th down near the end of a game...."

Whaaaat? It's either a penalty or it's not dude. Tbh, that type of response from the NY figure heads just confirms to me that the NFL referees are really just parity police.


I think the grey area is on purpose to give the league leeway so they can steer the outcome of the games. It wouldn't work in a blowout but any close game is in the hands of the refs, who are steered by the league.

I get that it's fast action and difficult to judge at times but they do have replay. Anyone can call it right on replay, except NFL refs?? Really? Notice how quickly they make the decision when it's a bad call and the lack of angles and discussion that goes on? Even the announcers are playing dumb instead of criticizing a bad call.

Having the booth ref like Blandino and a replay guy at headquarters is the league trying to convince the fans that it is all legitimate. Do we really need Dean Blandino to tell us what pass interference looks like, or that a ball going forward as it leaves the QBs hand is an uncontrolled motion? How many times have we seen a hand hit and the ball flutter forward with no apparent target? But suddenly this time it's uncontrolled and the other times it isn't?? Fans aren't that dumb but the league installs this pseudo authority figure into the booth to explain away bad calls, so fans are less likely to say the game is fixed.

The real version of replay: Replay goes to NFL. Replay official reviews it. Looks at his cheat sheet of who is supposed to win. Then makes the call accordingly.
 

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Blandino said the ball has to be going forward with a controlled motion. That's the first time I've ever heard that.

Recently we heard that the whistle isn't supposed to be blown on a potential turnover. But when Rudolph switched hands and flung the ball forward (uncontrolled?) The refs blew it dead.

The Rams stunk it up. Goff, the OLine, Kupp and McVay all had a hand in this, but the refs sealed the deal IMO. It's one thing to just lose, but it sucks to lose a close game that a few bad calls by the refs helps decide the final outcome.

This happened to me twice this weekend. First my college team loses in a close one with some very questionable calls by the refs and then my Pro team loses the same way. It was a rough football weekend. I don't know why I invest so much of myself in this game. My overall interest has been waning a bit, but I always set aside time to watch the actual game. I could be doing more productive things that don't leave me feeling so frustrated.

The Steelers scored 17 points. The fact is that 14 of the 17 points came only due to blown calls. That was not a fumble. And Washington's knee hit before the toe.

But even if we say the Washington play was too close to call, they should have never been in that position to start. Rudolph threw an interception. It was a dead fucking duck after he got hit. The refs flagged Ramsey for pass interference 15 yards away from where the ball was caught. A ball has to be catchable for that WR to be DPI. Johnson was nowhere near the ball and running in the wrong direction.

It was clear that the refs were intentionally calling a lopsided game. Nothing made that more clear than Reynolds getting the most blatant pass interference of the night on 4th down without the refs calling it. They called ticky tack bullshit multiple times on Ramsey, and then they let that shit go because "it's 4th down." Fuck the NFL. Fuck this bullshit. If there's anything that will drive me to quit watching this sport, it's the officiating.
 

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Worst officiated game of season for Rams. From, PI calls, or non calls, to 3 TO’s that definitely influenced the game.

we played bad, but refs were worse.
 

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This is why you invest in your Oline. Because sometimes you have to beat the opposition and the refs.
 

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The amount of stoppages for replays is out of hand.

too bad they didn't stop to replay the plays that really influenced the outcome of the game. fucking cocks.

edit - in years gone by i didn't mind the replays because they allowed the viewers to look at what the ref was looking at and we could make up our own mind. but the last couple of years they go straight to a commercial break so we don't see shit except for fucking commercials. they're really screwing up the viewing experience. the game is gonna start losing real fans and it won't last on only fantasy fans.

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The Steelers scored 17 points. The fact is that 14 of the 17 points came only due to blown calls. That was not a fumble. And Washington's knee hit before the toe.

But even if we say the Washington play was too close to call, they should have never been in that position to start. Rudolph threw an interception. It was a dead fucking duck after he got hit. The refs flagged Ramsey for pass interference 15 yards away from where the ball was caught. A ball has to be catchable for that WR to be DPI. Johnson was nowhere near the ball and running in the wrong direction.

It was clear that the refs were intentionally calling a lopsided game. Nothing made that more clear than Reynolds getting the most blatant pass interference of the night on 4th down without the refs calling it. They called ticky tack bullshit multiple times on Ramsey, and then they let that shit go because "it's 4th down." Fuck the NFL. Fuck this bullshit. If there's anything that will drive me to quit watching this sport, it's the officiating.

too right.

today is the first time this season i was really pissed during the game. maybe the bucs game but that was because they couldn't cover godwin. but today was much worse. i felt like they were doing everything in their power to screw the rams. sure they'd throw them a bone here and there but in all the real crucial situations they fucked the rams hard, especially those fucks in the booth.

i'm still at a loss at how they green lighted all those blown calls. it's baffling.

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This happened to me twice this weekend. First my college team loses in a close one with some very questionable calls by the refs and then my Pro team loses the same way. It was a rough football weekend. I don't know why I invest so much of myself in this game... I could be doing more productive things that don't leave me feeling so frustrated.

Dude, try playing fantasy football on top of all that. You will certainly start thinking about bailing on football and maybe take up knitting or something. :LOL:
 

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how the fuck can anyone look at that and think it's a fumble? sure the refs in real time make mistakes but the fucks in the booth? the mind boggles.

vegas bought the nfl a long time ago but now they're not even trying to hide it.

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The entire stadium thought it would be reversed , and then they kick the extra point a couple seconds later . Did they even look at the play in New York ? They never showed the replay on the big screen , so I thought I missed something. Rudolph had about 3 of the same throws that looked a hell of a lot more like a fumble to me . That one hurt right before the half , but they should've overcome it and handled their business. Sad effort
 

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The Steelers scored 17 points. The fact is that 14 of the 17 points came only due to blown calls. That was not a fumble. And Washington's knee hit before the toe.

But even if we say the Washington play was too close to call, they should have never been in that position to start. Rudolph threw an interception. It was a dead fucking duck after he got hit. The refs flagged Ramsey for pass interference 15 yards away from where the ball was caught. A ball has to be catchable for that WR to be DPI. Johnson was nowhere near the ball and running in the wrong direction.

It was clear that the refs were intentionally calling a lopsided game. Nothing made that more clear than Reynolds getting the most blatant pass interference of the night on 4th down without the refs calling it. They called ticky tack bullshit multiple times on Ramsey, and then they let that shit go because "it's 4th down." Fuck the NFL. Fuck this bullshit. If there's anything that will drive me to quit watching this sport, it's the officiating.


It's not the officiating. It's the league and TV. The refs do as they are told. Nobody can be that bad. At least not with replay. I totally agree that the Steelers were gift wrapped that game.

When AB got himself kicked off the Raiders Larry Johnson said if Brown acted like that it was because he was told to. He called the NFL a Reality tv show and said all that AB stuff was scripted.

When questioned about the poor officiating and that's all fans talk about, Jerry Jones said, "As long as they are talking". Bad press and controversy are better than nobody talking.

Joe Shobert quit the game after his first year. He said "This isn't football, it's fantasy."

Bernie Parrish was an All-Pro NFL cornerback and became vice president of the players union. He wrote a book titled -They Call It A Game. The book focused on how the league changed once the big TV contracts were signed. The league Kowtowed to the networks. The networks essentially bought the league. He says the Networks are the ones scripting the season and building the story lines.

This year's story will be Darth Vader vs Luke Skywalker. Brady vs Garapolo. The networks love Garapolo. He's a very sellable product. He puts women in the seats broadening the fan base. Brady is getting older and the torch needs to be passed. The apprentice becomes the master, etc,.. If one of them screws it up they will have a back up story to sell.
Whether or not this happens, it is how it is done. The Networks and NFL don't just want the hardcore fans, they want everyone. They are masters of salesmanship.

I guess all of these examples and more are why I don't get as excited to watch the games on Sunday. I've read that for the most of the season the league feels things out as they go, to see which teams look good, what generates interest and what they can make a story out of. Some games get played without interference, and others are guided. In the end the league and Networks get what they want
 

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Yeah, but after blowing the call, it gets sent to NY Riverton who blows it, then commented on by Blandino in booth, who blows it.

Not one Physics 101 class, nor common sense, amongst ANY of these yahoos???
Need to add integrity to the list of prerequisites.
 

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If the officiating doesn't improve by the seasons end I might have to take a break from watching. On top of watching the Rams and Chiefs I used to watch Sunday Monday and Thursday nights regardless who was playing. Because of officiating I now just watch the Rams and that's getting harder to enjoy and I hate that.
 

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It's amazing that I've watched football for 25 years and have no idea what is or is not a fumble, a hold, pass interference, a catch, the list goes on. You even have these rule experts being called into these games who have no clue, either. "Well that looks like pass interference but it's not clear and it's late in the game so that's that." "Goff threw that ball 10 yards down the field but since the call was a fumble and it's not completely clear that it's a throw, they'll stick with the call on the field." Last week in the Giants- Cowboys game, they asked this rules expert his opinion on a challenged pass interference, and he said it was pretty clearly pass interference but they won't reverse the call because that's they way they've been doing things.

Reffing in the NFL is atrocious, has been for a while.
 

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The officiating yesterday was fucking horrific! You know what though? Maybe I'm crazy, or paranoid, but it sure seems like the refs have had a hard on for us all year. Payback because we made them look bad in the NFCCG???