Because they are claiming a backwards pass is different from a fumble, which is a joke.
If Darnold would have pitched out to Charb and a d-lineman got his mitt in their to knock it down it would have been a dead ball when a Seahawk touched it
New Report on Seattle's 2 Point Conversion (and this is really bullcrap if true)
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If Darnold would have pitched out to Charb and a d-lineman got his mitt in their to knock it down it would have been a dead ball when a Seahawk touched it
As ref fuckups go this was a big one and it affected the seeding and eventual results of the NFCCG and title. So I'm still pissed but on the other hand I'm not gonna act like the fans I detest of other teams who carry around this kind of BS and storyline it when their team comes up short.
Rams weren't good enough to overcome the refs. Hope that changes next year. Fix the fucking defense and it won't matter.
Rams weren't good enough to overcome the refs. Hope that changes next year. Fix the fucking defense and it won't matter.
Ex-NFL Official..... attention whore.
What say you, Puka???
What say you, Puka???
Well, the premise of the OP wasnt to argue the merits of the 2 point call, it was about whether McCauley called in from the announcers booth to have them look at it. They were lining up for a kickoff when they were whistled off the field.
I see this is exactly what Puka had talked about. That refs are influenced by the big game moment to have their moment in the sun.
And more to the point, had this been a Sunday regional game with no McCauley jock sniffing in the booth, would the same result have occurred?
I see this is exactly what Puka had talked about. That refs are influenced by the big game moment to have their moment in the sun.
And more to the point, had this been a Sunday regional game with no McCauley jock sniffing in the booth, would the same result have occurred?
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This times 1000
I don't care why they initiated the review. Though, it does lend credence to the opinion that the TV refs almost always side with the NFL refs because they're in cahoots. I care that Verse deflected the pass, it hit the ground, the refs blew the whistle, our guys stopped playing, and then they gave Seattle two points it didn't earn because Charbonnet moseyed over and picked the ball up to give to the official. That is bullshit.
Look, could we have overcome it? Yes. If Mevis had made the FG or the defense had stopped Darnold in OT, we win. But it is bullshit that we had to overcome it.
Look, could we have overcome it? Yes. If Mevis had made the FG or the defense had stopped Darnold in OT, we win. But it is bullshit that we had to overcome it.
And y’all thought I was kidding when I posted the TV networks are the ones running the NFL show these days
Yeah that's kinda BS. Mcvay said they were lining up for a return kickoff when they went to review. That's what too much time. And if he can call in for that missed call, why not do it other times?
Wow...I didn't know you could call the NFL rules analyst during a game.
Anyone got the phone number. I would love to call too!
Anyone got the phone number. I would love to call too!
It won't happen again if they scrap the whole gawd-damned system.
After this bullshit I'm good going back to the eyes on the field making calls. If they miss it, they fucking miss it. We can make fun about their glass eye in that case but know that it's a fucking honest mistake.
I saw the title to this thread and I don't even want to read the article. I am guessing it will just pass me off.
I'm in the minority on this, but I prefer it when "at the end of the day" the call ends up being the correct one. No matter which team it benefits, the Rams or their opponent.
Am I glad that the Rams beat the Saints in the NFCCG? Sure I am. But it's a bummer that the refs completely screwed up the PI call.
Am I bummed that the Rams lost to the Hawks in large part due to that controversial 2-point call? Of course.
But was it a backwards pass? Yes. Should the ball have been live? Yes. Should Zach have been legally able to recover it in the EZ for a TD? Yes. Did the ref screw up by blowing the whistle early? Yes. Should Rams defenders be coached to go after the ball when there is any question as to whether the ball was a fumble or a lateral or a pass? Yes.
Is it okay that the TV Analyst called the NYC office? I don't know, and I hope they write a rule about that.
That play was damn weird to be sure. But it "should" have been considered a live ball.
Am I glad that the Rams beat the Saints in the NFCCG? Sure I am. But it's a bummer that the refs completely screwed up the PI call.
Am I bummed that the Rams lost to the Hawks in large part due to that controversial 2-point call? Of course.
But was it a backwards pass? Yes. Should the ball have been live? Yes. Should Zach have been legally able to recover it in the EZ for a TD? Yes. Did the ref screw up by blowing the whistle early? Yes. Should Rams defenders be coached to go after the ball when there is any question as to whether the ball was a fumble or a lateral or a pass? Yes.
Is it okay that the TV Analyst called the NYC office? I don't know, and I hope they write a rule about that.
That play was damn weird to be sure. But it "should" have been considered a live ball.
I can see that but once the whistles blow everybody assumes the ball is dead. Play stopped.
Made the wrong call? Give SEA another play but don't retroactively award them the points b/c the RB was being nice and picking up the ball in the EZ.
FFS...
Charbonnet was "driven by the fundamental, instinctive habit of securing a loose ball, even though he didn't initially understand the full context of the play. He later stated, "I had no idea, but I'm always taught to pick up the ball".
That's good coaching. And a player responding well to good coaching.
There are a LOT of moving parts on that play. But Zach wasn't picking up the ball to be "nice." He picked up the ball because he was well coached.
I'm a Ram fan, but I'm willing to give Zach credit for being the ONLY player on the field who responded as he should have at the very end of that play.
Zach Charbonnet on two-point conversion: I had no idea, but I always pick up the ball
Charbonnet made one of the biggest plays of this NFL season without realizing it when it happened.
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