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bluecoconuts said:
Kroenke was the main person pitching Inglewood, said to have surprised people with how passionate he was, so I guess that settles that debate.
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This is actually pretty huge as it also appears to put to rest the whole... "LA is just leverage" thing. It would appear Stan has wanted LA all along.
 
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So Fabiani is expecting 70 - 80% public financing? And then the NFL's $200 million on top of that? So Spanos wants a stadium built for him and he'll shell out about $100 million?

Sorry - but Fabiani is an idiot. There is no wonder how the Chargers have tainted the waters.
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I don't agree with the writer's take on percentages - I think the NFL is looking stuff closer to 50/50,maybe even 40/60..but definitely not falling for a 30/70 - that was my point,those numbers have not changed,nor the things that would have to be put to a vote.

$750 million from the NFL and only $300 from the city? the NFL probably laughed at that
 
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I don't agree with the writer's take on percentages - I think the NFL is looking stuff closer to 50/50,maybe even 40/60..but definitely not falling for a 30/70 - that was my point,those numbers have not changed,nor the things that would have to be put to a vote.

$750 million from the NFL and only $300 from the city? the NFL probably laughed at that
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Isn't that roughly what St Louis is offering? If you move PSL over to the owner contribution, which the NFL apparently does.
 
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RamFan503 said:
So Fabiani is expecting 70 - 80% public financing? And then the NFL's $200 million on top of that? So Spanos wants a stadium built for him and he'll shell out about $100 million?

Sorry - but Fabiani is an idiot. There is no wonder how the Chargers have tainted the waters.
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This is something that really makes me wonder.

Between Fabiani and Policy (today at the owner's meeting) the Chargers are beyond disrespectful to the city and fans of San Diego. It's gotten to the point of malice. How does the NFL let this happen in their name?

One of the only answers i can come up with is: It's a bluff and they all know it.

But i guess we'll know one way or another soon enough...
 

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MrMotes said:
I don't think the courts have to decide anything. Whatever words are used, the Rams are no longer in the long term lease. They're legally free to relocate.
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It's just my way of saying a court's opinion is all that really matters and we'll not likely see this matter in court so that's it.
 
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20 years old and there are 4 other stadiums have been replaced in the same amount of time just in the NFL
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Yeah, but those four stadiums were NOT less than 20 years old. St. Louis is actually trying to build another brand new stadium -- a total of two -- in what will be less than 23 years. NO OTHER CITY HAS PROPOSED OR DONE THIS FOR A FOOTBALL TEAM, to my knowledge, in history.

As for StanK having the actual gall to speak to to the other owners about WHAT WENT WRONG IN ST.LOUIS, well, excuse me! He has been the actual 100% owner for a mere 5 years. St. Louis was extremely supportive of the Rams -- and remains so today -- even though the team has become bottom dwellers. During the GSOT years the Rams were ranked in the top 2 or 3 teams when it came to the sale of merchandise. The GSOT Super Bowl team was feted with a parade where an estimated 1 to 2 million people were in attendance.

What went WRONG may have been StanK! (Although, I will admit that he got Jeff Fisher and he has spent to the limit of the cap each year). But as far as being an engaged and thoughtful owner, one who seemingly cared about the fans WHO MADE HIM MONEY, he was less than a zero.
 
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iced said:
I don't agree with the writer's take on percentages - I think the NFL is looking stuff closer to 50/50,maybe even 40/60..but definitely not falling for a 30/70 - that was my point,those numbers have not changed,nor the things that would have to be put to a vote.

$750 million from the NFL and only $300 from the city? the NFL probably laughed at that
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bluecoconuts said:
Isn't that roughly what St Louis is offering? If you move PSL over to the owner contribution, which the NFL apparently does.
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Yes, it's the same but if the 200 million plus land is part of the final deal it would get it in the ballpark along with all the revenues from the stadium.
 
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rams2050 said:
Yeah, but those four stadiums were NOT less than 20 years old. St. Louis is actually trying to build another brand new stadium -- a total of two -- in what will be less than 23 years. NO OTHER CITY HAS PROPOSED OR DONE THIS FOR A FOOTBALL TEAM, to my knowledge, in history.

As for StanK having the actual gall to speak to to the other owners about WHAT WENT WRONG IN ST.LOUIS, well, excuse me! He has been the actual 100% owner for a mere 5 years. St. Louis was extremely supportive of the Rams -- and remains so today -- even though the team has become bottom dwellers. During the GSOT years the Rams were ranked in the top 2 or 3 teams when it came to the sale of merchandise. The GSOT Super Bowl team was feted with a parade where an estimated 1 to 2 million people were in attendance.

What went WRONG may have been StanK! (Although, I will admit that he got Jeff Fisher and he has spent to the limit of the cap each year). But as far as being an engaged and thoughtful owner, one who seemingly cared about the fans WHO MADE HIM MONEY, he was less than a zero.
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Yes, 4 other cities did the same thing, Indy, Seattle, Atalanta and Tampa. Tampa was 22 years from the opening of the first to to completion of the new. In Atlanta the stadium was only 18 years old when they proposed the new stadium. The Kingdome was 20 years old when the stadium was proposed and it was demolished at 24. Indy was 20 years.
 
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iced said:
I don't agree with the writer's take on percentages - I think the NFL is looking stuff closer to 50/50,maybe even 40/60..but definitely not falling for a 30/70 - that was my point,those numbers have not changed,nor the things that would have to be put to a vote.

$750 million from the NFL and only $300 from the city? the NFL probably laughed at that
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Was it the writers take on percentages or Fabiani's? I've heard similar things come out of his pie hole and it fits with what I've heard before about the situation.

Either way, I don't think we are getting the straight scoop from anyone right now. Makes it tough for the fans to really get a grasp on all of it.
 
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OldSchool said:
Well it seems the cross ownership was taken care of.


View: https://twitter.com/martinkilcoyne2/status/631210264105349120
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Anything about the Avs? *Edit* Duh, that's what the "lanche" part was.

I figured that was going to happen, so if there is going to be something to entice Kroenke to stay, doesn't seem like that'll be it. Now the question is what could they do if it were to come to it? We've heard quite a few times the owners will make sure that everyone comes out happy, so how do you make him happy?
 
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