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dieterbrock

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I think I should have add a bit more to my post. For a while now I've have thought that the cross ownership might be a carrot to dangle if Stan doesn't get LA. I think if he is going to get LA there is no way he gets to keep cross ownership. Though you're probably right.
I dont think the cross ownership issue holds any water. They cant force him to sell. He back doored his way in to owning the team and the NFL really cant do anything about it.
 

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STL has the public money, Carson has the votes, and it's all gonna come together.

I would say both of those statements are false with where we're standing now. Things might change, but St Louis doesn't have any public money at this time, and word is neither site the votes right now.
 

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This conversation is a bit of a head scratcher for me. You have a chance to own an NFL franchise in one of the largest most wealthy cities in the world, which if managed and marketed right could bring you so much more business opportunities and more fortune, both from LA and potentially from international markets, particularly China, and people think he'll sell so he can dominate Denver? I guess anything is possible....

I've seen this argument before, and I've always been puzzled by it. New York is probably the most prestigious American city, but still no one gives any more of crap what the Giants or Jets do than the Packers or Colts. I simply don't see people overseas waiting with baited breath on whether or not LA gets a team. The Rams will have to win 3 or 4 more SBs to really make inroads on the Steelers or the Packers for nationwide appeal, and that kind of proves that the size of the city doesn't really have a thing to do with team popularity. I completely understand the desire to tap the large market, but I don't think Stan has THAT kind of business savvy to do what you're talking about. Even if he did, he'd be dead before he ever saw any of what you're talking about. Dominating Denver, no small city itself, would bring more prestige I would think. Heck total sports domination of any large city would be more prestigious, as of this moment, than just owning a 6-10 team in LA. Especially if he could continue to win, which is more important than location. I'm not going to say your wrong, but I think this is another of those things Stan isn't really factoring in.

Also, I don't think Stan is shooting for owning Denver anyway. If he wanted them, it'd be far cheaper to overpay a bit for them then to build a new stadium on private money for another team in another city and then look to buy them. IMO.
 

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Wow!!

There's a member on another board who lives like 2 blocks from the Carson site (and has lived there for something like 60 years).

His description of what went on there for 55 years makes it sound like there was no way anyone was going to be building a stadium on that site any time soon. Benzene, tolulene, PCPs... toxic waste seeping out of the ground. The clean up sounds like it would take years. Even then, not sure whatever soil that would be left would support a stadium. I can tell you this much: If it got built? I wouldn't go.

I trust his intelligence on the site and, coupled with this information, it makes me feel like there is no deal of any serious nature concerning the Carson stadium.

Looks like the VofSD is going to force the truth out of Carson.

bubbaramfan is the man when it comes to on the scene Carson info...
 

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I would say both of those statements are false with where we're standing now. Things might change, but St Louis doesn't have any public money at this time, and word is neither site the votes right now.

Well I'm not gonna say it twice, you already know. :cool:
 

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Yeah, KC and the elephants Vs STL and the donkeys is real. We get a new stadium, they got renovations. Says it all right there.
 

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I didn't realize how much STL and KC hated each other. Reminds me of everyone in Illinois not in Chicago hate Chicago.
 

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Governor Nixon Blasts opponents of Riverfront Stadium


ST. LOUIS (KTVI) – Missouri Governor Jay Nixon was in St. Louis Tuesday and FOX2 reporter Andy Banker caught up the governor for a sit down interview on the proposed NFL stadium on the St. Louis Riverfront.

In that interview Governor Nixon laid out his vision and plan for the financing, construction and keeping St. Louis an NFL city. He also blasted opponents of the stadium project to trying use the courts to block the state from using the bonds from the Edward Jones Dome to help finance the new stadium.

http://fox2now.com/2015/06/02/governor-nixon-blasts-opponents-of-riverfront-stadium/
 

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That seems a bit excessive...
It was meant to be.

It's also a LOT condescending to suggest over and over and over again that the only, ONLY options to this whole messed up issue involves the Rams in LA as Vinny Bag o' Doughnuts does day after day lately.
 

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It was meant to be.

It's also a LOT condescending to suggest over and over and over again that the only, ONLY options to this whole messed up issue involves the Rams in LA as Vinny Bag o' Doughnuts does day after day lately.

He used to be more about Carson, something must have changed his mind.
 
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