bluecoconuts
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And I'm still not sure I believe that Inglewood with one team is going to give the NFL as much as two in Carson. I don't dispute the notion that Inglewood may generate more money, what I question is whether or not the NFL and the other owners would see enough of that extra money in their profits to use that as a deciding factor, as both would be plenty stable financially. And any Inglewood figure must also take into account the loss of STL unless the Raiders are basically gifted the money to move there.
Inglewood would likely end up housing two teams, unless the Chargers get a stadium deal in San Diego, which obviously 3 new stadiums is best. Honestly I think they would gift St Louis to Davis, if they really are interested in keeping it, which they'd be stupid not to.
I think you need to reread my post - you're saying the exact opposite. I'm saying if Kroenke does leave, what team is going to move to St.Louis? The Raiders can't afford it most likely and the Chargers look dead set on SD or LA.
And it's not just "200'ish" to move here. The investment for the stadium alone is most likely in the $300-$400, and that's not even factoring in the actual cost of moving the team plus any relocation fee's other owners want to associate with it.
If they can't afford their much,much cheaper stadium Oakland, there's no way in hell they can afford to move, pitch in for the stadium, and pay the relocation fee. Pretty much they're only option is Carson or stay put.
Not to mention Davis has made it clear they want to stay in Oakland as option #1...If they can't get a deal in Carson I don't see him packing up. There's also a question to the G4 Loan for his part of the payment too because while Kroenke is eligible for it, they wouldn't be....
Which goes back to your point earlier about the G4 Loans - unless you think they're gonna waive the rules for that too then the question becomes if they're loaning them money for a stadium, why St.Louis over Carson? Their deal solves a problem for two teams with ongoing stadium issues for years, and will house 2 teams.
I believe Carson is more expensive no matter what. That's about 800 million, plus cost of moving, cost of relocation, etc. I was just assuming that they'd give the G4 loan to them, because it's the NFL and they don't give two shits about their rules anyway. If they didn't, then you'd think they wouldn't do it for Carson, so either way 400-500 million is better than a billion. I'm not sure how the costs of the new Oakland deal that they're working on, but I don't know how realistic it is to get done. If they stay in Oakland, then Carson isn't really going to work anyway, which then the NFL easily gives Kroenke the green light regardless of what happens in St Louis.
If the NFL wants to keep the St Louis market, but like the Inglewood project, I think they either wave or extremely reduce the relocation fee for Oakland, and offer them the G4 loan. The funds that they'll get for relocation from the Rams/Chargers would obviously help cover costs for the Raiders as well.