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Didn't say it wasn't but he had over 200 yards twice. They don't win without him. period
Nate Atkins on drafting Love, Hunter, linebacker and secondary play
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They dont win without many players, namely the #1 defense in the league.
Its a team game and as good as Barkley played in the game against the Rams, without Jalen Carter they likely dont win
Come on man. Absurd? It's not absurd at all. You might be the only one who thinks the Beagles win the SB without Barkley. Hell. They certainly don't make it past us without him and his 232 yards. And 97 yards (the most by any Beagles player) in a SB when the Chefs were keying on taking him away isn't exactly a non-factor. KC's defense actually played fairly well. Their offense sucked ass.
Barkley is 1 guy
They don’t win without Jalen Carter or many other players.
Key contributor? Hell yeah. But do they win without him?
Well, if Philly held KC to 20 points in the SB 2 years prior, they win that game too
And Barkley did shit in the SB win
Team game, they won because of the sum of their parts
You keep FIXATING on the one Super Bowl game itself and not the ENTIRE season as the determining factor. You don't even know how wrong you are , everyone on here can see that.
Do you remember, Marshall Faulk in our Super Bowl win against Tennessee had 10 carries for 17 yards? Also had very low yardage the week before against Tampa Bay. Guess he wasnt an important piece in Rams winning Super Bowl, LOL
Nice straw man!
Cant have a conversation without resorting to this bullshit.
I’ve stated time and time again that he was an important factor but not the sole factor.
No single player is EVER the SOLE reason
If you can’t comprehend that, there is no help for you
I think you guys are comparing apples against oranges.
If the Eagles don't have 1 of the following 2 players, they don't win:
Barkley
or
Carter
It's a team game but those 2 players put the Eagles over the top of the Rams.
They were that critical in that game.
Okay straw man. Said originally he was the MAIN reason for the Eagles transforning from 2023 quick exits to 2024 Super Bowl Champs. And that's exactly true. I know you want your "devalued running back" theory to work but it's not true in every single case.
Nobody's talking about the Eagles beating the Rams in a game. The question was who is most responsible for the Eagles going from 2023 first round exits to 2024 Super Bowl champions. That 2024 season includes the course of the ENTIRE season, not just the Ram game(s) and not just the Super Bowl.
Well, for arguments sake, the Chiefs decided to go all out to stop Barkley, which opened up the Eagles passing game. So he did impact the SB.
Some people don't grasp the finer points and causation of Football. Just a stat sheet. Football is the MAIN Sport in which stats often lie.
And NEVER said he was the "sole factor," said he was "directly responsible." Go have a look.
Yup, its a team game. KC had no answers for Hurts last time, and no answers for him again. The difference was Philly D dominating them, holding them to 6 points thru 3.75 quarters
The man said, they don't win the SB without Barkley. It was to emphasize how much his home run ability and comparing Love to him. Unbelievable that it turned into a debate about the Eagles.
His point is valid as it pertains to the effect of a RB to an offense.
To argue his point isn't valid because it takes a whole team just misses the point completely. Everyone knows the RB needs blocking and the team needs a Defense.
Do you think Love could put the Rams over the top? yes or no.
His point is valid as it pertains to the effect of a RB to an offense.
To argue his point isn't valid because it takes a whole team just misses the point completely. Everyone knows the RB needs blocking and the team needs a Defense.
Do you think Love could put the Rams over the top? yes or no.
Overall, look at that year. Barkley and the OL carried the offense. The passing offense was like 29th in the league. They struggled throwing the ball much like they did this past year. People forget that. There was a lot of complaints here in the Philly market in 24' regarding the passing game and Hurts. Barkley carried the offense. His big plays won games for them.
If you want to to say more than one guy and reference the OL, fair enough, but that running game and his homerun ability was the main factor, just look at both Rams games in 24'. And look at the NFC playoffs in total. He was huge in all 3 games while Hurts only played well in the NFCCG, and that was after another long Barkley TD that opened things up, which is why KC focused everything on Barkley.
The difference between 24' and 25' for them was a beat up OL and a worn down Barkley. I probably watch more Philly games than most on here and that was obvious. The defense was still top 5, Hurts was Hurts, yet they were one and done. Why?
Thank you for getting my sole point across. I guess I was incapable of doing it, though I see you had no trouble getting it and neither did many others....
Well, I was responding to RamsFan503 statement that Philly doesn't get past the Rams without Barkley and Dieter's statement about Carter.