Mortgage the future

[Dodgersrf]

Somewhere along the rise of the internet fan, getting as many draft picks as possible surpassed winning titles. And damnit, even if you don't win the title, you do everything you can to do so.

We owe it all to Mel Kiper.

Thanks Mel Kiper.

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[snackdaddy]

Rapp is a strange player.
He is better than Barron in some ways in the Barron S/LB hybrid role.
Yesterday and verse KC, close to the line, he is a play making machine. Out in space, he can't cover and seems to react slowly.
With a specific task he can let his athleticism go and makes plays. Having to read and react are not his strong suit at all.

Unrelated to all that....where would this team be with a healthy (or reasonably) healthy OL?
8-4 range is very likely. Right in the mix in the NFC.
You can only prepare for injuries so much.
Injuries that decimate a specific position group and be bad. Devastating number of injures to the OL that leaves the team starting multiple guys that were not in football a few weeks ago....there is no over coming that. I think McVay could have done some things to help more than he did, but, no team or coach in the NFL is overcoming those sorts of losses.

The difference between Rapp and Barron is they knew Barron was not good in coverage. They didn't expose him as much. They keep using Rapp in coverage and we all know he sucks at it.

 

[So Ram]

Jimmy G is done for the season. I can't imagine the whiners can run the gauntlet of what looks like a tough road to the NFCCG and even if they were to make it, they will face the Chiefs or the Bills who will likely slaughter them anyway.

And on the bright side, Jimmy G is gone and the whiners unloaded nearly all their draft picks for Trey Lance (who is injury prone like Jimmy gag) and CMC (who is injury prone). And I believe the whiners will have to fork out to keep players on their defense soon.

We can predict as we please. My prediction is I’m happy for the rest of My Life & appreciate what I have.
You know I have been blessed,but not as much as a majority of successful NFL players. Most of us fans reatlearn to enjoy the game.
IMO I like when I see Effort & Jifj Hopes. The ultimate is 2021/22 season.
When & if The Rams make it back on Top I hope I’m around to see if. I believe Demoff & Kronke will agree?

 

[oldnotdead]

Uh, Rams were 3-5 before Stafford, Donald or Kupp were ever injured. Dont forget that.

The OL is what I was obviously referring to. It's the OL injuries that have destroyed this season.

There are only two players that I know of right now worth mortgaging the future over. If Snead can pry Justin Herbert away from the Chargers and believe me it's a possibility if the offer is 3 first round picks. Dean Spanos isn't going to want to pay Herbert $45M a year when he can draft another rookie when he has two first-round picks over 3 years to work with. Dean Spanos' sister is bascially right the team is insolvent if the NFL cared to really look. He's got bills he never paid for dating back to when he moved. He's never paid his relocation fee among others. This year proved that Herbert isn't enough on that team to get them to or win a Super Bowl. Herbert himself has to see it. I wouldn't be surprised if he asks for a trade.

And yes count me in as those hoping the Chargers tank. Telesco will fire Staley and he can return to where he belongs with the Rams.

The only rookie would be Michael Penix. Why him? Because he's a first year starter, but more importantly he's a perfect fit for McVay's offense. He's playing in a deep strike passing game as a pocket passer with excellent arm strength, accuracy and mobility. He's leading what is possibly the top offense in the country. He's the real deal. With the talent he would have around him, there is no doubt in my mind this team would be a SB contender even with him as a rookie.

The problem with Jared Goff was that he wasn't a scheme fit for McVay's offense. I've said this before and his play in Detroit proves it. They are a couple of wins out from being a wildcard this year. He's best in a conventional offense with a good run game, strong dink and dunk passing with an occasional deep throw if it's there. Goff reads short to long.

Michael Penix is a scheme fit right now. He's coming from an offense with a similar philosophy, where running and short passing are setting up the deep throw. Penix throws a beautiful deep pass with the accuracy normally you don't see in a college QB. Penix will read long to short which is what McVay wants.

 

[Flint]

Some people think steady winning seasons with playoff exits is better than a championship followed by a bad season. I'll take the championship every time. That is what they play for and what we fans ultimately want out of our team. Plus, there's no guarantee you won't have bad season if you have all your picks every year. Injuries happen.

That’s what fans want, owners want that too, but they also want to make more money. I would guess it’s easier to fill a stadium and sell merch if you win 10 games every year than if you occasionally stink. As hard as it is to swallow this philosophy, it’s better to be terrible than to be mediocre.
You hear guys on tv saying the rams are awful AND they don’t have a first rounder, like that’s some kind of guarantee. Mayfield was a number one pick and so was Murray, so I don’t think it’s a crisis.
Looking to next year, the niners STILL aren’t sure who their qb will be, the cards are still stuck with Kyler and Geno just had his best year after 10 years in the league, the rams can absolutely come back next year.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Life is better without ingesting media narratives

 

[Allen2McVay]

...
The only rookie would be Michael Penix. Why him? Because he's a first year starter, but more importantly he's a perfect fit for McVay's offense. He's playing in a deep strike passing game as a pocket passer with excellent arm strength, accuracy and mobility. He's leading what is possibly the top offense in the country. He's the real deal. With the talent he would have around him, there is no doubt in my mind this team would be a SB contender even with him as a rookie.

Michael Penix is a scheme fit right now. He's coming from an offense with a similar philosophy, where running and short passing are setting up the deep throw. Penix throws a beautiful deep pass with the accuracy normally you don't see in a college QB. Penix will read long to short which is what McVay wants.

Didn't Penix announce that he was returning to Washington in 2023?

 

[PhillyRam]

Uh, Rams were 3-5 before Stafford, Donald or Kupp were ever injured. Dont forget that.

And were already down 4 OL starters at that point

 

[gogoat1]

Me, I want to see what McVay can do, long term with multiple high draft choices that he has picked.
We have not seen that yet.

 

[Flatlyner]

The OL is what I was obviously referring to. It's the OL injuries that have destroyed this season.

There are only two players that I know of right now worth mortgaging the future over. If Snead can pry Justin Herbert away from the Chargers and believe me it's a possibility if the offer is 3 first round picks. Dean Spanos isn't going to want to pay Herbert $45M a year when he can draft another rookie when he has two first-round picks over 3 years to work with. Dean Spanos' sister is bascially right the team is insolvent if the NFL cared to really look. He's got bills he never paid for dating back to when he moved. He's never paid his relocation fee among others. This year proved that Herbert isn't enough on that team to get them to or win a Super Bowl. Herbert himself has to see it. I wouldn't be surprised if he asks for a trade.

And yes count me in as those hoping the Chargers tank. Telesco will fire Staley and he can return to where he belongs with the Rams.

The only rookie would be Michael Penix. Why him? Because he's a first year starter, but more importantly he's a perfect fit for McVay's offense. He's playing in a deep strike passing game as a pocket passer with excellent arm strength, accuracy and mobility. He's leading what is possibly the top offense in the country. He's the real deal. With the talent he would have around him, there is no doubt in my mind this team would be a SB contender even with him as a rookie.

The problem with Jared Goff was that he wasn't a scheme fit for McVay's offense. I've said this before and his play in Detroit proves it. They are a couple of wins out from being a wildcard this year. He's best in a conventional offense with a good run game, strong dink and dunk passing with an occasional deep throw if it's there. Goff reads short to long.

Michael Penix is a scheme fit right now. He's coming from an offense with a similar philosophy, where running and short passing are setting up the deep throw. Penix throws a beautiful deep pass with the accuracy normally you don't see in a college QB. Penix will read long to short which is what McVay wants.

Yes, he is returning for 2023. That said, I like Hooker more then him and he could conceivably be had in the 2nd round this year because he tore his knee late in the year. That could be a huge steal and our QB of the future, although he is coming out as an old prospect.

 

[Angry Ram]

Me, I want to see what McVay can do, long term with multiple high draft choices that he has picked.
We have not seen that yet.

That's actually a good thing.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Me, I want to see what McVay can do, long term with multiple high draft choices that he has picked.
We have not seen that yet.

Don't the Rams have to be a bad team for multiple years to get those 'multiple high draft choices'?

 

[Kupped]

The OL is what I was obviously referring to. It's the OL injuries that have destroyed this season.

There are only two players that I know of right now worth mortgaging the future over. If Snead can pry Justin Herbert away from the Chargers and believe me it's a possibility if the offer is 3 first round picks. Dean Spanos isn't going to want to pay Herbert $45M a year when he can draft another rookie when he has two first-round picks over 3 years to work with. Dean Spanos' sister is bascially right the team is insolvent if the NFL cared to really look. He's got bills he never paid for dating back to when he moved. He's never paid his relocation fee among others. This year proved that Herbert isn't enough on that team to get them to or win a Super Bowl. Herbert himself has to see it. I wouldn't be surprised if he asks for a trade.

And yes count me in as those hoping the Chargers tank. Telesco will fire Staley and he can return to where he belongs with the Rams.

The only rookie would be Michael Penix. Why him? Because he's a first year starter, but more importantly he's a perfect fit for McVay's offense. He's playing in a deep strike passing game as a pocket passer with excellent arm strength, accuracy and mobility. He's leading what is possibly the top offense in the country. He's the real deal. With the talent he would have around him, there is no doubt in my mind this team would be a SB contender even with him as a rookie.

The problem with Jared Goff was that he wasn't a scheme fit for McVay's offense. I've said this before and his play in Detroit proves it. They are a couple of wins out from being a wildcard this year. He's best in a conventional offense with a good run game, strong dink and dunk passing with an occasional deep throw if it's there. Goff reads short to long.

Michael Penix is a scheme fit right now. He's coming from an offense with a similar philosophy, where running and short passing are setting up the deep throw. Penix throws a beautiful deep pass with the accuracy normally you don't see in a college QB. Penix will read long to short which is what McVay wants.

The Chargers will pay Herbert. They paid Rivers.
The team isn't close to insolvent and neither is Spanos and the rest of the family. The whole lawsuit is about wanting to push the team into a public sale to get maximum dollars. There's a structure in place to buy her out if she wants.. but she knows that limits her value.
If the *entire team* went up for sale.. there would be competition, which would drive the price up. Dean and the other siblings have no interest in that and are satisfied with the NFL's growing revenue streams and ticket sales that surpass what they did in San Diego.
Much ado about nothing.

Lol... Goff was *perfect* for McVay's scheme.. when the scheme began falling apart around him because of a shitty run game and weaker Oline.. Goff fell apart. He's currently 9th in YPA.. He was 4th in 2018.

Penix has decided to return to school.

 

[oldnotdead]

Actually the Chargers aren't solvent as his sister contends. The Charger paid Rivers because they were still in SD and had the money to do it. Spanos has been bleeding money since the move. He's had to withhold payouts to the extended family to cover operating costs. Vendors including the moving company have never been paid. His $365 M he owes the NFL has never been paid. He hasn't paid his share of the costs at SoFi. They are playing in SoFi rent free. So if you add in all the Chargers owe, plus the things they should be paying like his rent at SoFi, they are BK. The family payouts were dictated in the family trust from Alex Spanos (Dean's father) who controlled 35-40% ownership.

Dean Spanos told his family that the value of the franchise would be huge and that when it reached a certain point (which it has) he would sell the team and pay everyone off. Word is he is searching for someone to buy that trust percentage to pay them off while he retains his controlling interest via himself, his son, and a couple of other family members. What pissed people off is that Eli Broad offered to do that right after Alex passed. He also offered to foot the bill to build a state of the art stadium in San Diego. But Dean's greed quashed that. That promise is the basis for his sister's suit.

If Herbert demands a trade as he might, Dean isn't going to have a lot of options. But that is all moot because McVay loves Mayfield. If Baker plays well (win or lose) IMO that will cement the deal. Another thing not really mentioned in most of the media is how Stafford was also in Baker's ear telling him what he saw and helping with protection calls. If he continues that and I think he will that would be big time mentoring. It's why I'm confident that Baker will stay at least another year as a backup then assume the start in 2024.

 

[KA210927]

Next year we finally have a 1st rounder. Maybe tank for Caleb? Haha

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

I think McVay and Snead are capable of a Belichick-type dynasty. Being in the hunt perennially gives you more shots to run the table.

They need to learn the lessons from this season on a more critical level than in past years, though, I think.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I'm sorry but I don't know where you get some of this stuff.

That's a ton of very specific information about Spanos and his finances. I guess some of it can be true but I haven't read this kind of detailed information. I mean 'the moving company was never paid' . OK ... Maybe ... I'm not going to research it.

As far as 'Stafford in Baker's ear', I'm sure there were discussions on the sidelines but not when Mayfield was on the field. Pretty sure there is only one guy on the QB's head-set during game-play; and, in this case, that's McVay. Maybe, I'm wrong.

 

[Kupped]

Actually the Chargers aren't solvent as his sister contends. The Charger paid Rivers because they were still in SD and had the money to do it. Spanos has been bleeding money since the move. He's had to withhold payouts to the extended family to cover operating costs. Vendors including the moving company have never been paid. His $365 M he owes the NFL has never been paid. He hasn't paid his share of the costs at SoFi. They are playing in SoFi rent free. So if you add in all the Chargers owe, plus the things they should be paying like his rent at SoFi, they are BK. The family payouts were dictated in the family trust from Alex Spanos (Dean's father) who controlled 35-40% ownership.

Dean Spanos told his family that the value of the franchise would be huge and that when it reached a certain point (which it has) he would sell the team and pay everyone off. Word is he is searching for someone to buy that trust percentage to pay them off while he retains his controlling interest via himself, his son, and a couple of other family members. What pissed people off is that Eli Broad offered to do that right after Alex passed. He also offered to foot the bill to build a state of the art stadium in San Diego. But Dean's greed quashed that. That promise is the basis for his sister's suit.

If Herbert demands a trade as he might, Dean isn't going to have a lot of options. But that is all moot because McVay loves Mayfield. If Baker plays well (win or lose) IMO that will cement the deal. Another thing not really mentioned in most of the media is how Stafford was also in Baker's ear telling him what he saw and helping with protection calls. If he continues that and I think he will that would be big time mentoring. It's why I'm confident that Baker will stay at least another year as a backup then assume the start in 2024.

You are factually wrong.
The team is fine.
The Spanos trust, which owns 36% of the team, has some financial issues. Seems like they're figuring it out.

And, last I've read.. and, feel free to get caught up on the latest.. I'll put the link below... the sister backing off the lawsuit.

I'm sorry.. you can make up all the stuff you want.. but you don't seem to know what you're talking about.
A lot of people, including you, seem to see the "36%" thing and believe that's the portion of the team the family owns.

That is incorrect.

The family members own 60% of the team.. the trust owns 36%.. and outsiders own 4%.

They're looking at 2024 as a possible start date to look into a possible sale.. because that's when the penalty for selling the team after relocation becomes more palatable.

Herbert isn't going to ask for a trade because he's in a team that treats him well in the #2 media market in the nation and the Chargers will pay him. Probably this offseason.

The vendor stuff? Run of the mill business disputes.

The relocation fee? Shit.. refinanced a loooong time ago.

Chargers will get 20 extra years to pay $650 million relocation fee

In a decision that heavily favored the team moving to Los Angeles, NFL owners approved a waiver of the league’s debt ceiling on Dec. 14, 2016 for the San Diego Chargers. The waiver allows the…

chargerswire.usatoday.com

You can speak with all the certitude as you like, but you are woefully misinformed on what's going on with the Chargers.

**fixed link below**

https://theathletic.com/3497834/2022/08/11/dean-spanos-chargers-sale/

 

[Kupped]

I'm sorry but I don't know where you get some of this stuff.

That's a ton of very specific information about Spanos and his finances. I guess some of it can be true but I haven't read this kind of detailed information. I mean 'the moving company was never paid' . OK ... Maybe ... I'm not going to research it.

As far as 'Stafford in Baker's ear', I'm sure there were discussions on the sidelines but not when Mayfield was on the field. Pretty sure there is only one guy on the QB's head-set during game-play; and, in this case, that's McVay. Maybe, I'm wrong.

It's mostly BS

 

[So Ram]

I'm sorry but I don't know where you get some of this stuff.

That's a ton of very specific information about Spanos and his finances. I guess some of it can be true but I haven't read this kind of detailed information. I mean 'the moving company was never paid' . OK ... Maybe ... I'm not going to research it.

As far as 'Stafford in Baker's ear', I'm sure there were discussions on the sidelines but not when Mayfield was on the field. Pretty sure there is only one guy on the QB's head-set during game-play; and, in this case, that's McVay. Maybe, I'm wrong.

You’re Wrong, listen to Mcvay explain it. Then again Mcvay said he can’t hear what’s going on in Mayfields ear? He said he might have been pissing them off? He Stafford was in the headset. Weather that is true or not ?

Mayfield would step out of the huddle then step in with the play call. You could see that part of it.