GAME DAY MNF - Rams at Packers

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Such a broken record.
Maybe because it's that obvious.
Did you see a Rams DB challenge a Green Bay receiver even ONCE tonight?

Even the couple times they played press they didn't look like they knew what they were doing.

Probably from lack of practice in pressing a receiver.

We have ONE physical corner in Jalen Ramsey and he won't let him play press hardly at all.
 

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Lol.

The Rams #1 D gave up almost 500 yards that game and eviscerated Staley by doing the same motion with an RB out of the backfield the entire game. He made zero adjustments.

Morris performance in the playoffs last year, with a real defensive roster, speaks for itself. Morris, you'll remember.. DID make adjustments in the playoffs.. which is one reason why they won the Super Bowl.

He does not have the personnel to run what people want this year.. and some fans have lost all perspective.
Our defense was average as a whole last year under Morris. It performed well in the playoffs (excepting the Tampa Bay meltdown). But it was also stacked with talent. Our pass rush was insane. The individual talent of our defense carried Morris. He deserved credit for making use of it, but the guy is not the sort of defensive mind who transforms a unit. Staley was.

Talk all your shit about Green Bay. Staley was a far, far better DC. I'd welcome him back with open arms. Raheem was running this same frustrating D earlier in the year before the injuries started. This is who he is. And I'm over it. It's painful to watch. Go make your excuses to somebody else.

P.S. We played the Packers last year, and they whooped our defense's ass. So I'm quite confident that Raheem wouldn't have done a thing to change what happened in 2020.
 

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try to make a play you are 4-10 ands its 12 pts down with 8 min left

dont just run out of bounds.. plus he did that a bunch today
Well, on that particular play, it was 3rd & 16. He couldn't find a receiver, and two Packer defenders were bearing down on him. So, stepping out of bounds and stopping the clock seemed OK to me. No way he could have run for a first.
 

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Well, on that particular play, it was 3rd & 16. He couldn't find a receiver, and two Packer defenders were bearing down on him. So, stepping out of bounds and stopping the clock seemed OK to me. No way he could have run for a first.
nah chuck it down field and hope for the best... if its a pick its like a punt anyway.

nothing to lose at that point...

we punted the ball and never got the ball back
 

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nah chuck it down field and hope for the best... if its a pick its like a punt anyway.

nothing to lose at that point...

we punted the ball and never got the ball back
I'm good with that too!
 

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Our defense is ranked 25th in passer rating against. That is unacceptable for a top organization who considers themselves a perennial contender. That is what we are, btw, a perennial contender.

Life as a coach isn't fair. Sometimes you get lemons and when you make lemonaide you get fired. Especially when you're the DC of the Super Bowl champs and they can't get anyone off the fucking field. This was the case even when they had Donald out there.

Because I believe in accountability I would fire both Morris and Shula. Those two have completely failed to get this defensive backfield playing consistently. The coaches for the LB and DL groups have done a good job, and as usual Henderson is the one who consistently gets the most from his pieces. I mean they found an edge from their DT group, that's some hard work and creativity and problem solving right there boy.

OL unfortunately has been so bad that I don't know if McVay is happy with that coach. No idea. But TE will be turned over as it should be. That move was on McVay tbh because you can already see a difference in Akers now with Brown moving back. But accountability is crucial after a season like this IMO. Without that you have nothing.
 

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Get that mouthwash ready…..

You’re going to be putting in some overtime after another Morris special.

You already got the knee pads out.

Fulfill your destiny…….
It's complete ownership of you.

Because all you ever do is follow me around.

Thanks for being such a loyal sub.
 

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Maybe because it's that obvious.
Did you see a Rams DB challenge a Green Bay receiver even ONCE tonight?

Even the couple times they played press they didn't look like they knew what they were doing.

Probably from lack of practice in pressing a receiver.

We have ONE physical corner in Jalen Ramsey and he won't let him play press hardly at all.
Yes, I did. On a third and short, specifically that I noted.

I'm not going to be sarcastic.. I'm just going to repeat.. the Rams don't have the personnel on D this year.

When they did, in last year's playoff and stretch run, they mixed coverages more.

You either saw it and acknowledge it or pretend that it didn't happen. It's up to you.
 

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We are 14 games into this season, there are no rookies any more. That excuse had passed its usefulness.

The backend who played today is the team, there is no one out injured who was counted on for a bigger role.

Morris is to blame if these guys can’t play any better than that shit show tonight. His scheme puts them in a position to lose every play.
 

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Our defense was average as a whole last year under Morris. It performed well in the playoffs (excepting the Tampa Bay meltdown). But it was also stacked with talent. Our pass rush was insane. The individual talent of our defense carried Morris. He deserved credit for making use of it, but the guy is not the sort of defensive mind who transforms a unit. Staley was.

Talk all your shit about Green Bay. Staley was a far, far better DC. I'd welcome him back with open arms. Raheem was running this same frustrating D earlier in the year before the injuries started. This is who he is. And I'm over it. It's painful to watch. Go make your excuses to somebody else.

P.S. We played the Packers last year, and they whooped our defense's ass. So I'm quite confident that Raheem wouldn't have done a thing to change what happened in 2020.

The Packers game last year?
That was a turnover fest. The Rams turned it over 3 times and gave that game away. I've got no interest in rehashing how bad the offense and Stafford were in that game in taking care of the ball.

Sorry I offend you, Jer... but, sometimes, you have the players or you don't. The Rams don't this year on D.
The Rams are in the bottom 10 in sacks... the Chargers have fewer, btw.
The argument that teams were getting the ball off quickly was moot weeks ago.. teams have been running deeper developing routes to take advantage of the Rams defensive backs. Other than Ramsey.. who's good in coverage?

But.. clean house.. fire Morris.... I honestly don't give a shit... I just get tired of the groupthink and scapegoating. If you think Morris sucks and should be fired.. why aren't you calling for McVay's head? The offense has been a fucking shit show.


Don't you even think about saying ... "but injuries" after coming after me with that "Go make your excuses" shit .
 

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We are 14 games into this season, there are no rookies any more. That excuse had passed its usefulness.

The backend who played today is the team, there is no one out injured who was counted on for a bigger role.

Morris is to blame if these guys can’t play any better than that shit show tonight. His scheme puts them in a position to lose every play.
Agreed.. and the Offensive line isn't new anymore so there's no excuse. McVay is to blame and his offense put on a shit show tonight. His scheme put them in a position to lose every play.
 

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Rams offense is DEAD LAST in the NFL in yards per game and second to last in points.

Defense is 13th in yards against and 18th in points against.

There's a crush of people on here calling for Morris to be fired.. saying he sucks.. etc... but none of that for McVay.

Why not?

Because it'd be crazy... that's why. And it's crazy how obsessed people are with firing Morris when he's in charge of a defense that is, very obviously, undermanned.

Bookmark it... let's see how many new starters there are on D next year. Right now, I have no reason to think there's a starting corner on the roster, other than Ramsey. Durant, Kendrick and Rochell all look like depth guys.. not a single one of them has shown anything.
Scott isn't a disaster if he's paired up with a good safety.... the Rams haven't had a good safety next to him since Fuller got hurt.
 

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The Packers game last year?
That was a turnover fest. The Rams turned it over 3 times and gave that game away. I've got no interest in rehashing how bad the offense and Stafford were in that game in taking care of the ball.

Sorry I offend you, Jer... but, sometimes, you have the players or you don't. The Rams don't this year on D.
The Rams are in the bottom 10 in sacks... the Chargers have fewer, btw.
The argument that teams were getting the ball off quickly was moot weeks ago.. teams have been running deeper developing routes to take advantage of the Rams defensive backs. Other than Ramsey.. who's good in coverage?
The defense hasn't looked the same since Staley left. I still hope somebody hires Morris away. But if that doesn't happen, I'd move on. We went from #1 in 2020 to #15 in 2021. We're again in the middle of the league this year.

You're right about the lack of sacks, and that is a great example of why I'm so fed up with Morris. His scheming was a big reason why we weren't getting sacks when Donald was healthy. Now that Donald is out, we simply don't have the horses.

Who is good in coverage? How am I supposed to know? Nobody is going to look good in coverage when you force them to play 8 yards off the WR and don't put much effort into disguising your coverages.
But.. clean house.. fire Morris.... I honestly don't give a shit... I just get tired of the groupthink and scapegoating. If you think Morris sucks and should be fired.. why aren't you calling for McVay's head? The offense has been a fucking shit show.

Don't you even think about saying ... "but injuries" after coming after me with that "Go make your excuses" shit .
Because McVay has a long track record of success that one bad year doesn't taint. Morris doesn't.
 

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Rams offense is DEAD LAST in the NFL in yards per game and second to last in points.

Defense is 13th in yards against and 18th in points against.

There's a crush of people on here calling for Morris to be fired.. saying he sucks.. etc... but none of that for McVay.

Why not?

Because it'd be crazy... that's why. And it's crazy how obsessed people are with firing Morris when he's in charge of a defense that is, very obviously, undermanned.

Bookmark it... let's see how many new starters there are on D next year. Right now, I have no reason to think there's a starting corner on the roster, other than Ramsey. Durant, Kendrick and Rochell all look like depth guys.. not a single one of them has shown anything.
Scott isn't a disaster if he's paired up with a good safety.... the Rams haven't had a good safety next to him since Fuller got hurt.
Because Morris has a track record of being a mediocre coordinator, while McVay has a track record of being an elite HC.
 

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The defense hasn't looked the same since Staley left. I still hope somebody hires Morris away. But if that doesn't happen, I'd move on. We went from #1 in 2020 to #15 in 2021. We're again in the middle of the league this year.

You're right about the lack of sacks, and that is a great example of why I'm so fed up with Morris. His scheming was a big reason why we weren't getting sacks when Donald was healthy. Now that Donald is out, we simply don't have the horses.

Who is good in coverage? How am I supposed to know? Nobody is going to look good in coverage when you force them to play 8 yards off the WR and don't put much effort into disguising your coverages.

Because McVay has a long track record of success that one bad year doesn't taint. Morris doesn't.
The Rams D was excellent when it mattered most.. down the stretch and in the playoffs. In fact.. they were AWESOME in the playoffs. In fact... they gave up basically the same number of points per game in the playoffs that the Rams D gave up in regular season games in 20.


If you want to ignore that and stick to regular season stuff, you win. But I think that's just nonsense.

The Rams D was integrating new players.. had a bunch of injuries.. and worked through it to get better. Morris had to scheme around Troy Reeder and Kenny Young at ILB.

Morris has a fucking Super Bowl ring as a D coordinator... and happened to be the first ring for McVay as well.

Again... I honestly don't give a shit if Morris is the Coordinator... It's the nonsense groupthink and scapegoating that gets to me. As I pointed out... the defense is SIGNIFICANTLY outperforming the offense this year... but... yeah.. everything is Morris' fault, lol.
 

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Because Morris has a track record of being a mediocre coordinator, while McVay has a track record of being an elite HC.
Morris doesn't have an extensive track record as a coordinator. He was a D-coordinator for about half a season with a shitty Falcons roster.. then was made interim HC.

So... no, he doesn't. His first full season as an NFL DC... he won a Super Bowl.

Need to reshuffle your narrative, Jer.
 

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Morris doesn't have an extensive track record as a coordinator. He was a D-coordinator for about half a season with a shitty Falcons roster.. then was made interim HC.

So... no, he doesn't. His first full season as an NFL DC... he won a Super Bowl.

Need to reshuffle your narrative, Jer.
Raheem isn't some newbie coach. He led the Bucs defenses when he was HC. He coordinated in Atlanta. And he has coordinated here. His defenses have consistently been middle of the pack. My narrative is perfectly on point. McVay has a long track record of success as a HC. Morris has a track record of mediocrity as a DC. Don't even try to compare the two.
The Rams D was excellent when it mattered most.. down the stretch and in the playoffs. In fact.. they were AWESOME in the playoffs. In fact... they gave up basically the same number of points per game in the playoffs that the Rams D gave up in regular season games in 20.


If you want to ignore that and stick to regular season stuff, you win. But I think that's just nonsense.
Cool. I don't care. Nobody disputed that the defense performed well in the playoffs. They gave up 18.75 PPG. That's impressive. But four games is four games. Wade's defense gave up 19.33 PPG in 2018 when we made the Super Bowl. Guess what happened to him after 2019? This is a cold business. Raheem isn't getting the job done. I hope somebody hires him away, but if they don't, we should look for an upgrade.
The Rams D was integrating new players.. had a bunch of injuries.. and worked through it to get better. Morris had to scheme around Troy Reeder and Kenny Young at ILB.

Morris has a fucking Super Bowl ring as a D coordinator... and happened to be the first ring for McVay as well.
Morris had a stacked roster. (Kenny Young wasn't on the team. Ernest Jones was the starting ILB.) Despite having a more talented roster, our defense took a rather large step back in the regular season when compared to 2020.
Again... I honestly don't give a shit if Morris is the Coordinator... It's the nonsense groupthink and scapegoating that gets to me. As I pointed out... the defense is SIGNIFICANTLY outperforming the offense this year... but... yeah.. everything is Morris' fault, lol.
You clearly do care because you're expending all this energy defending the man. Keep labeling my take "groupthink" and "scapegoating" because you don't like it. Keep creating straw man arguments. At the end of the day, there are some coaches not getting the job done. We should look for an upgrade. Morris is one. But he's not the only one.
 

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Raheem isn't some newbie coach. He led the Bucs defenses when he was HC. He coordinated in Atlanta. And he has coordinated here. His defenses have consistently been middle of the pack. My narrative is perfectly on point. McVay has a long track record of success as a HC. Morris has a track record of mediocrity as a DC. Don't even try to compare the two.

Cool. I don't care. Nobody disputed that the defense performed well in the playoffs. They gave up 18.75 PPG. That's impressive. But four games is four games. Wade's defense gave up 19.33 PPG in 2018 when we made the Super Bowl. Guess what happened to him after 2019? This is a cold business. Raheem isn't getting the job done. I hope somebody hires him away, but if they don't, we should look for an upgrade.

Morris had a stacked roster. (Kenny Young wasn't on the team. Ernest Jones was the starting ILB.) Despite having a more talented roster, our defense took a rather large step back in the regular season when compared to 2020.

You clearly do care because you're expending all this energy defending the man. Keep labeling my take "groupthink" and "scapegoating" because you don't like it. Keep creating straw man arguments. At the end of the day, there are some coaches not getting the job done. We should look for an upgrade. Morris is one. But he's not the only one.

Well... Staley.. as a head coach... has produced utterly mediocre to bad defenses.

What does that say about HIS track record?
Let me guess.. different circumstances and different personnel?
Chargers gave up 27 points a game last season..
Tampa gave up 19 a game in 2009.

Four games is four games???? Lol... THE MOST IMPORTANT FOUR GAMES OF THE YEAR.

Come on, Jer... you're better than this. And, yeah... it's groupthink.

The offense is dead last, Jer.. the defense is nowhere near that bad. You're applying different standards. Why? That's on you to figure out.
 

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Well... Staley.. as a head coach... has produced utterly mediocre to bad defenses.

What does that say about HIS track record?
Let me guess.. different circumstances and different personnel?
Chargers gave up 27 points a game last season..
Tampa gave up 19 a game in 2009.
Tampa gave up 25 a game in 2009, 19.9 a game in 2010, and 30.9 a game in 2011. Staley hasn't produced good defenses as a HC, but he produced an elite one as our coordinator. I'd happily take him back if the Chargers fired him.
Four games is four games???? Lol... THE MOST IMPORTANT FOUR GAMES OF THE YEAR.
Still only four games. The 2018 playoffs didn't save Wade Phillips after his defense produced average results in 2019.
Come on, Jer... you're better than this. And, yeah... it's groupthink.
Or you're wrong and refuse to see it.
The offense is dead last, Jer.. the defense is nowhere near that bad. You're applying different standards. Why? That's on you to figure out.
I told you why. It's not rocket science or brain surgery. I don't know how to spell it out any clearer. Sean McVay has a long track record of success that makes me confident he'll fix things. Raheem Morris has a long track record of mediocrity that doesn't make me confident he'll fix things.
 
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