Memento's Way-Too-Early Marcus Peters Mock Offseason

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I'm assuming that Peters was dealt for our third round pick and the Lions' sixth round pick, along with a second round pick and fifth round pick in 2019.

Cut:

Tavon Austin.
Mark Barron

(I love Tavon as a player and a person, but the fact of the matter is that he simply costs too much. Barron can't be traded in this mock, so he is another cap casualty.)

Re-sign:

Aaron Donald - six years, twenty million per year.
Lamarcus Joyner - five years, ten million per year.
Nickell Robey-Coleman - five years, six million per year.
Sammy Watkins - three years, nine million per year.
Jake McQuaide - two years - two million per year.
Cornelius Lucas - one year, veteran minimum.
Troy Hill - ERFA
Malcolm Brown - ERFA
Matt Longacre - RFA

(This assumes that we can sign Joyner, NRC, Watkins, and Donald, but let Tru go. McQuaide is obvious, Lucas provides cheap depth, and the rest are under team control.)

Free Agent Signings

Weston Richburg, five years, 7 million per year.
Dontari Poe, three years. 7 million per year.
Navorro Bowman, two years, 6 million per year.


(Weston Richburg and Dontari Poe are my priorities. Richburg has concussion issues, while Poe has struggled with a back injury, which are the only reasons why they cost seven million per year. I've wholeheartedly jumped on the Bowman bandwagon.)

Trade:

Robert Quinn to the New York Jets for #37 overall (second round).

(This trade was jrry's idea, so I'm going to borrow it for a moment (only reason it's not linked to him is because it literally restarted this mock, like, a dozen times before now.) Anyway, the Jets need everything. Quinn is talented, but not a fit in our 3-4. We do this deal.)

2018 first round pick (#23 overall) to the Cleveland Browns for #35 overall (second round from Texans) and #65 overall (third round).

(We'll need picks after trading for Peters. What better way than to deal with the Browns, who could likely target a Courtland Sutton in the first round?)

Ethan Westbrooks to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for #202 overall (sixth).

(Westbrooks in an impending free agent next year, and Poe has taken his spot. It makes sense to get something for him.)

Draft:

#35 overall (Browns) - Sony Michel, RB, Georgia.

(Hey, we took another Georgia running back with our first pick. Michel is what Tavon was supposed to be: a home run threat able to take it to the house on any play. He's a great blocker as well, so I'd be happy to use him in a large role.

#37 overall (Jets) - Hercules Mata'afa, OLB, Washington State.

(Awesome name aside, Mata'afa is a powerful edge rusher who played at defensive tackle during his time in college. He'll slide over to the SAM position and provide a run-stopping presence there.)

#65 overall (Browns) - Shaquem Griffin, ILB, UCF

(Inspirational story aside, Griffin is a hell of a linebacker, and if he had two hands, he'd be going first round without question. As he is, he's instinctive, possesses sideline to sideline speed, and he makes a ton of splash plays. He'll back up Bowman, and take his place eventually.)

#124 overall - J.C. Jackson, CB, Maryland.

(Character risks aside, Jackson is one of my favorite prospects in this class, and he has a first round skillset. I know that we're taking on a ton of risk with him and Peters, but I trust Wade to show them the ropes.)

#160 overall - Alex Cappa, OT, Humboldt State.

(Cappa is a new addition, and he needs to be molded like clay. He'd be a perfect project in the fifth round.)

#195 overall (Bills) - Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, OLB, Toledo.

(The only reason Adeniyi falls this far with his production are his lackluster athletic traits. He's a pure motor guy, and he can be an excellent reserve and special teams player.)

#198 overall - Dane Cruikshank, FS, Arizona.

(Cruikshank plays Cody Davis' role and comes in occasionally to cover a five-wide set and crush people on special teams. He's not the most athletic secondary player, as he's listed as a cornerback who will likely move to safety. He's very instinctive and has a nose for the football, and that's always useful.)

#202 overall - Nic Shimonek, QB, Texas Tech.

(Here we get our new backup quarterback when Mannion leaves or is traded. Shimonek has a live arm, but is inaccurate. I think that our quarterbacks coach can mold him into a perfect backup, who can either stay on to back up Goff or be used as a valuable trade chip.)

Roster:

QB: Jared Goff, Sean Mannion, Nic Shimonek.
RB: Todd Gurley, Sony Michel, Malcolm Brown, Sam Rogers.
TE: Gerald Everett, Tyler Higbee, Temarrick Hemingway.
WR: Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Pharoh Cooper, Josh Reynolds, Mike Thomas.
OL: Andrew Whitworth, Rodger Saffold, Weston Richburg, Jamon Brown, Rob Havenstein, Alex Cappa, Austin Blythe, Cornelius Lucas, Jake Eldrenkamp.
DL: Aaron Donald, Dontari Poe, Michael Brockers, Tanzel Smart, Morgan Fox, Omarius Bryant.
LB: Samson Ebukam, Hercules Mata'afa, Alec Ogletree, Navorro Bowman, Matt Longacre, Ejuan Price, Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, Shaquem Griffin, Corey Littleton.
DB: Marcus Peters, Kayvon Webster, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Lamarcus Joyner, John Johnson III, J.C. Jackson, Troy Hill, Kevin Peterson, Dane Cruikshank, Marqui Christian.
K: Greg Zuerlein.
P: Johnny Hekker.
LS: Jake McQuaide.

Thoughts, comments, critques, all are welcome!
 

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It's an interesting mock, my friend. However, with us refusing to deal Quinn to KC, I have strong doubts that we're moving him this off-season. You have us drafting a lot of good players, but I don't know why we'd take Sony Michel with our first pick. Michel is talented, but I'm not taking Gurley off the field unless he needs a breather. I don't think you spend a 2nd on a guy who only gives Gurley breathers. We can find a #2 HB in the mid or late rounds.
 

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Sorry, just don't get your fascination for Richburg, and definitely not at that price. Stick with Sullivan.
I prefer Da'Quan Jones and some savings over Poe at NT.
Bowman has started 19 of 48 games these last 3 seasons, we can do better while going younger imo.
I don't trade Westbrooks for a 6'th, he's been pretty valuable in rotation at a few positions.

The 2'nd round trade for Quinn is fair, but i'm not seeing the value in exchanging him for Mata'afa, if the Rams are truly shooting for the Super Bowl this year, I probably keep Quinn and the pressure he brings. Donald, Quinn & Peters are a trio of players who will all be of great benefit to each other.
Trading away our #1 draft pick in 2018 for a RB and a 3'rd ? No way !
Only a single offensive lineman, and not until the 5'th round, very dangerous for depth and what we are potentially looking forward to during the 2019 free agency period.
 

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memento like this draft except I would like 3 changes.
1 instead of rb at 35 take vander esh(i'm from Idaho)
2 instead of giving Watkins 9 mil add 2 mil and try to keep true ( that would give us one hell of a df )
3 no trade for Quinn ( not sure we could draft a better replacement )
 

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Jc Jackson is my favorite of these. Very interesting mock! Quinn not being traded yesterday means that he's either still considered a valuable pass rusher to the Rams or that someone else is talking to Les about him. Personally I'd like to have at least one vet pass rusher to mesh with a new guy so why not just keep Quinn (who was semi productive )
 

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Hey, we took another Georgia running back with our first pick.

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OMFG @Merlin You have me rolling for 10 minutes with that gif and post.....


Anyways, @Memento I love your players but not sure if it would be the wisest spending of our assets. I'd rather get a RB in the 5th/6th to spell TG30 if we didn't feel Brown had it in him any more. I'm also of the opinion that players with more than two concussions makes me disqualify them automatically. (Richburg) Reminds me of the Spags/Fisher era FA pickups.

I think we might be able to net a 4th from the Jets for Quinn but that really gives us options with his salary going with him as well. Not trying to be hyper critical, but just seeing what Peters was let go for with no injury history makes me think we might not even get a 3rd for Quinn. Love all the picks acquired etc
 

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FWIW I love Sony Michel, almost as much as I love Fanny Channel in a Good Year, however, concur with @jrry32 would look at another position with Gurley as the running back. Again Quinn not going to Kansas City, means the Rams liked what they saw from the Mighty Quinn once he understood the scheme and it appears he will be in Horns come September.

Also I believe you adore Weston Richburg more than I adore Laura Jeanne Reese Witherspoon and that's posting something.
 

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Sorry, but this isn't a plan I can get behind.
I am not so sure Quinn can still fetch a 2nd round pick, and really don't see him going anywhere.

I appreciate the importance you place on getting a true 3-4 NT, but I don't think we need to spend that much find one. Plus, Barron's play (as well as OTree's) would benefit from solving that issue. Littleton is priced right and could grow into that job should you dump Barron and plug the middle of the DL.

Why would you spend $35 mil on a center just because he's younger than Sullivan when you can re-sign Sullivan for less? Sullivan had a better year and the Rams already have a couple of young guys in waiting at the position.

A RB that early? Like one poster said, Gurley isn't gonna be splitting carries. He just needs a breather every now and then.

OT. That's the top priority the Rams have on offense right now. Havs hits the open market next year and Whitworth can't play forever.

In general, too much $$ spent on bringing in outside help when there are key players that need to be re-signed.

Then again, until we see what exactly the Peters trade is gonna cost, it's hard to rely too much on the draft right now.
 

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It's an interesting mock, my friend. However, with us refusing to deal Quinn to KC, I have strong doubts that we're moving him this off-season. You have us drafting a lot of good players, but I don't know why we'd take Sony Michel with our first pick. Michel is talented, but I'm not taking Gurley off the field unless he needs a breather. I don't think you spend a 2nd on a guy who only gives Gurley breathers. We can find a #2 HB in the mid or late rounds.

Just because we didn't trade Quinn to the Chiefs doesn't mean that they're not willing to move on from him with his cap hit. In my honest opinion, he's likely getting moved during the draft. And the only reason I'm drafting Michel is because our rushing offense aside from Gurley left a ton to be desired and because Michel could fill the Tavon Austin role.

Sorry, just don't get your fascination for Richburg, and definitely not at that price. Stick with Sullivan.
I prefer Da'Quan Jones and some savings over Poe at NT.
Bowman has started 19 of 48 games these last 3 seasons, we can do better while going younger imo.
I don't trade Westbrooks for a 6'th, he's been pretty valuable in rotation at a few positions.

The 2'nd round trade for Quinn is fair, but i'm not seeing the value in exchanging him for Mata'afa, if the Rams are truly shooting for the Super Bowl this year, I probably keep Quinn and the pressure he brings. Donald, Quinn & Peters are a trio of players who will all be of great benefit to each other.
Trading away our #1 draft pick in 2018 for a RB and a 3'rd ? No way !
Only a single offensive lineman, and not until the 5'th round, very dangerous for depth and what we are potentially looking forward to during the 2019 free agency period.

Very well. I'll stick with Sullivan next mock draft. I still like Richburg as a player, but I can see your point.

I disagree on Poe, though. He's a much better player than Jones, and I don't particularly care about the cap. Players like Poe don't come around that often. And with Poe at nose, you don't have much of a need for Westbrooks, hence why I'd move him.

Bowman, if I recall correctly, missed those games with his prior knee injury and recovery. If he's healhty, I don't see any risk in him. He's great in the locker room, and that's necessary with Peters in the fold now.

Mata'afa is very talented, and while it may not seem like a Super Bowl move, it makes all kinds of sense to move on from Quinn at his salary. Mata'afa and Ebukam could be a dynamic duo, along with Griffin at linebacker.

It makes sense to trade down and recoup those picks. I understand why you wouldn't want Michel, though.

We already have a ton of depth, though. At worst, you trade for a Whitworth replacement, but we have the kind of depth that we don't really need more than one offensive tackle at best.

memento like this draft except I would like 3 changes.
1 instead of rb at 35 take vander esh(i'm from Idaho)
2 instead of giving Watkins 9 mil add 2 mil and try to keep true ( that would give us one hell of a df )
3 no trade for Quinn ( not sure we could draft a better replacement )

I'd love Vander Esch, but I think he's going first round.

Watkins can go for ten million at most. I'm not doing more.

Quinn has not been the same as his old form for quite some time, and to me, we can better spend dollars on a replacement.

Jc Jackson is my favorite of these. Very interesting mock! Quinn not being traded yesterday means that he's either still considered a valuable pass rusher to the Rams or that someone else is talking to Les about him. Personally I'd like to have at least one vet pass rusher to mesh with a new guy so why not just keep Quinn (who was semi productive )

J.C. Jackson is one of my favorites as well.

If we had to keep a veteran at pass-rusher, I'd use free agency and either retain Barwin or sign Pernell McPhee. Quinn is not the same as he was.


Heh. Yeah, I see your point. Promise that I won't do Michel in any other draft but this one.

OMFG @Merlin You have me rolling for 10 minutes with that gif and post.....

Anyways, @Memento I love your players but not sure if it would be the wisest spending of our assets. I'd rather get a RB in the 5th/6th to spell TG30 if we didn't feel Brown had it in him any more. I'm also of the opinion that players with more than two concussions makes me disqualify them automatically. (Richburg) Reminds me of the Spags/Fisher era FA pickups.

I think we might be able to net a 4th from the Jets for Quinn but that really gives us options with his salary going with him as well. Not trying to be hyper critical, but just seeing what Peters was let go for with no injury history makes me think we might not even get a 3rd for Quinn. Love all the picks acquired etc

That's a fair point about both Michel and Richburg. On Quinn, I disagree. This current free agent market has very little good pass rushers (Ezekiel Ansah is the best, and Quinn, if cut, would be the second best by far), and we know that Peters was let go due to serious character issues. Kansas City basically had to give Peters away, and we know that there will be suitors for Quinn.

FWIW I love Sony Michel, almost as much as I love Fanny Channel in a Good Year, however, concur with @jrry32 would look at another position with Gurley as the running back. Again Quinn not going to Kansas City, means the Rams liked what they saw from the Mighty Quinn once he understood the scheme and it appears he will be in Horns come September.

Also I believe you adore Weston Richburg more than I adore Laura Jeanne Reese Witherspoon and that's posting something.

HAH! Nice quip about how much I adore Richburg.

And about Quinn, I just feel that he's likely going to be traded during draft day. Just my honest opinion.

Sorry, but this isn't a plan I can get behind.
I am not so sure Quinn can still fetch a 2nd round pick, and really don't see him going anywhere.

I appreciate the importance you place on getting a true 3-4 NT, but I don't think we need to spend that much find one. Plus, Barron's play (as well as OTree's) would benefit from solving that issue. Littleton is priced right and could grow into that job should you dump Barron and plug the middle of the DL.

Why would you spend $35 mil on a center just because he's younger than Sullivan when you can re-sign Sullivan for less? Sullivan had a better year and the Rams already have a couple of young guys in waiting at the position.

A RB that early? Like one poster said, Gurley isn't gonna be splitting carries. He just needs a breather every now and then.

OT. That's the top priority the Rams have on offense right now. Havs hits the open market next year and Whitworth can't play forever.

In general, too much $$ spent on bringing in outside help when there are key players that need to be re-signed.

Then again, until we see what exactly the Peters trade is gonna cost, it's hard to rely too much on the draft right now.

I do believe that Quinn will fetch a second, and I do believe that it's still likely that he's traded - just not right now.

As for nose tackles like Poe, they don't exactly grow on trees. Barron's cap is too much to keep, and as much as I like him, I don't think it's likely they'll keep him.

You have a good point about Richburg and Michel.

OT is tempting, but we need help on defense more than offense right now.
 

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Just because we didn't trade Quinn to the Chiefs doesn't mean that they're not willing to move on from him with his cap hit. In my honest opinion, he's likely getting moved during the draft.

I doubt that.
 

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It wasn't that I dislike Poe, just wasn't sure he'd fit under your CAP.
 

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Even with the back, I think Poe is gonna be in the $8-9M area. Without the back, he'd be over $10M.

I'm waiting until after the FA period starts to look at doing a mock because so many FA moves change things (guys who weren't tradeable are now on the block, surprise trades which open up draft needs, etc).

I mean, first thing I'll do is have us taking Billy Price at #23. That presumes he falls that far.

Beyond that, I dunno. I know it'll look very different than if I did it now.
 

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Even with the back, I think Poe is gonna be in the $8-9M area. Without the back, he'd be over $10M.

I'm waiting until after the FA period starts to look at doing a mock because so many FA moves change things (guys who weren't tradeable are now on the block, surprise trades which open up draft needs, etc).

I mean, first thing I'll do is have us taking Billy Price at #23. That presumes he falls that far.

Beyond that, I dunno. I know it'll look very different than if I did it now.

Well, I think the odds of Billy Price being there at #23 just got a whole hell of a lot better. However, I'm not sure that Kromer values Centers in his scheme like that.