McVay Week 8 Post Game Presser

[Dz1]

He should be fuming.

Goff didn’t play well at all. But he kept putting him and the offense in horrible positions. As soon as the Dolphins returned that fumble I knew it was probably game over.

He also needs to be railed for not playing Cam Akers. There is zero excuse to have Malcolm Brown in there. Zero.

Brown is better on pass pro.

 

[tklongball]

Not always but sometimes what we see as "looking down a reciever" is about coaching. If a play is designed to develop late, and if its your best match up, sometimes the thing to do hang in there and deliver the ball when they make their move to separate. Truth is, today, even when Goff had time, our recievers were not able to get open consistently enough for any kind of rhythm.

Also - Goff isn't short and his delivery/trajectory isn't especially low, so the tipped passes are a feature of the defense knowing what we want to do and when we want to do it.
It took McVay the entire 1st half to realize a 1 to 1 alternating run and pass balance is too predictable?

Sometimes McVay is determined to impose his will on teams. Thats a great thing when we are winning. Thats why he doesn't lose games after leading at half-time.
On the flipside, it can be painful when its not working.

Man you guys have to stop listening to the announcers. That simply NEVER Happened. Not one drive did the Rams alternate back and forth Pass-Run-Pass-Run. Go look at the game log.

BTW, that was literally the worst announcer I have ever heard. I never thought I would be missing Booger McFarland.

 

[badnews]

Man you guys have to stop listening to the announcers. That simply NEVER Happened. Not one drive did the Rams alternate back and forth Pass-Run-Pass-Run. Go look at the game log.

BTW, that was literally the worst announcer I have ever heard. I never thought I would be missing Booger McFarland.

I agree that the color guy was the worst ever.
Ever.
And I believe you. I totally believe that guy was talking out his ass.

At the same time, they were keyed in on every pass and many predictable runs. Our runners performed very well, but even I could kinda get a feel for what was coming in the 1st half.

 

[Paydirt]

and where the fuck is Noteboom ......... dude was ready 2 weks ago. Not saying that's the end all / but certainly couldn't hurt. Played so much better with him in there

 

[FrantikRam]

No, he should take the blame, he should look in the mirror because the buck stops with him. And he put his offense in shitty situations repeatedly and went away from what was working. While there are multiple reasons we lost today, it starts with him.

Here's a very illuminating Twitter thread from Jourdan Rodrigue. She's talking to Michael Brockers, but what they are talking about is what their defense was doing to our offense. Click on the tweet below and read the whole thread.


View: https://twitter.com/JourdanRodrigue/status/1323027999562760192

If an NFL defense is zero blitzing an NFL QB, it should only take one coach/QB in sideline conversation to beat it the rest of the game. I think it's safe to assume that they had that.

So this was on Goff. As fans we can say why didn't they run more? But we also paid a QB $34 million and we need him to play well for us to beat teams who aren't starting Tua at QB.

And McVay is calling plays based on what the defense is doing - running into that blitz probably wouldn't have been very effective

 

[Bootleg]

If an NFL defense is zero blitzing an NFL QB, it should only take one coach/QB in sideline conversation to beat it the rest of the game. I think it's safe to assume that they had that.

So this was on Goff. As fans we can say why didn't they run more? But we also paid a QB $34 million and we need him to play well for us to beat teams who aren't starting Tua at QB.

And McVay is calling plays based on what the defense is doing - running into that blitz probably wouldn't have been very effective

Yeah that's what I got from the pressor too. McVay didn't want to publicly throw Goff under the bus, but reading between the lines he basically said they recognized what the Dolphins were doing on defense, had solutions, but execution was the problem

So this is on Goff.

 

[Adi]

Small recievers are being exposed. Teams don't 0 cover blitz offenses with a guy that can cominate man coverage .

 

[RamsFanCK]

I'm honestly not sure I've ever seen him that mad. Wish I could have that composure when I was seeing red Most of you have hit the nail on the head though. He is great at that coach speak and didn't say it out right but he seems to be saying that the Offense, and in particular the line and Goff, did not execute the plan to beat 0 blitz. Problem is, you gotta move on from that plan in the game if your players can't execute it and find a way to win the game and then go back and work hard on what they couldn't execute in the film room and on the practice field.

 

[Faceplant]

I recommend watching all of the pressers to get a feel for how pissed they are. Brock was cool and collected. Goff looked like he was about ready to burst. Vein in forehead and everything. I expect him to learn from this. He has to know that he single handedly lost this game for his team. In his own words, that was nowhere close to good enough.

 

[wolfdogg]

Jared, when I was yelling at you to get rid of the ball, I didnt mean fumble it!

And both your picks were just thrown up for grabs. Take the sack. You're getting hit anyway. Bad play call bad protection I dont care. You have to know not to throw those balls up for grabs like that.

Act like you know we're in the fucking red zone and take care of the fucking ball! Take a farve vs strahan sack if you have to, just know you have points if you just dont turn it over. Be more aware. One of those fumbles came from the only guy on your frontside.

I dont recall ever seeing a gb with 4 turnovers in the first half and if its ever happened I'd bet 10 times what I lost on the rams yesterday that goff is the only one with 2 of the turnovers being returned for touchdowns.

Making these turnovers even more painful was where they occurred. Worst qb performance I've ever seen and thats without taking into consideration the missed td pass in the 3rd.

Sure there were coaching mistakes and offensive line issues as well as a very untimely penalty or two but the rams could have overcome all that had goff just held onto the ball on one of those fumbles and not thrown one of those picks up for grabs.

Too bad for the defense that only gave up 7 points and none in the 2nd half. Tua was shit with 12 for 22 for 93 one 3 yrd td and a fumble but he looked like a HOFr compared to jared.

We all know what you can do so get your shit together man.

 

[thirteen28]

And McVay is calling plays based on what the defense is doing - running into that blitz probably wouldn't have been very effective

They ran for over 100 yards and over 5 yards per carry in the first half against what the Dolphins defense was doing. In what world does that qualify as not being very effective?

It was a helluva lot more effective than the empty set bullshit and the plays where we got killed and turned the ball over.

He is great at that coach speak and didn't say it out right but he seems to be saying that the Offense, and in particular the line and Goff, did not execute the plan to beat 0 blitz. Problem is, you gotta move on from that plan in the game if your players can't execute it and find a way to win the game and then go back and work hard on what they couldn't execute in the film room and on the practice field.

Thank you - a nice, refreshing breath of common sense.

It doesn't matter why it's not working, it doesn't matter what the QB's salary is, none of that shit matters in the middle of a game. You deal with it afterward. If plan A isn't working, have a plan B and go to it, don't keep stubbornly trying to pound the square peg in the round hole while whining about how "they're not executing."

This is the second time since February 2019 that Brian Flores has outcoached the living shit out of Sean McVay, and last time it was on the biggest stage of all. In both cases, McVay stubbornly refused to deviate from his initial plan despite the obvious fact that, for whatever reason, it wasn't working. And McVay had to know that Flores would try this shit again, and yet he fell right back into the same trap he did during the Super Bowl.

For some reason, people think if you hold McVay responsible for his awful job of playcalling yesterday that you are letting Goff and the rest of the offense off the hook. But it's not an either/or, and as @RamsFanCK correctly states, if they are not executing Plan A you go back and deal with it at practice and in the film room, but during the game you shift gears.

 

[tklongball]

Jared, when I was yelling at you to get rid of the ball, I didnt mean fumble it!

And both your picks were just thrown up for grabs. Take the sack. You're getting hit anyway. Bad play call bad protection I dont care. You have to know not to throw those balls up for grabs like that.

Act like you know we're in the fucking red zone and take care of the fucking ball! Take a farve vs strahan sack if you have to, just know you have points if you just dont turn it over. Be more aware. One of those fumbles came from the only guy on your frontside.

I dont recall ever seeing a gb with 4 turnovers in the first half and if its ever happened I'd bet 10 times what I lost on the rams yesterday that goff is the only one with 2 of the turnovers being returned for touchdowns.

Making these turnovers even more painful was where they occurred. Worst qb performance I've ever seen and thats without taking into consideration the missed td pass in the 3rd.

Sure there were coaching mistakes and offensive line issues as well as a very untimely penalty or two but the rams could have overcome all that had goff just held onto the ball on one of those fumbles and not thrown one of those picks up for grabs.

Too bad for the defense that only gave up 7 points and none in the 2nd half. Tua was shit with 12 for 22 for 93 one 3 yrd td and a fumble but he looked like a HOFr compared to jared.

We all know what you can do so get your shit together man.

I believe on The first pic, he didn't see the DL drop into coverage, on the other Pic he was hit as he threw. No Quarterback is going to be looking to see if he is going to get hit, and then just take the sack. They are looking at their receivers, like they are supposed to be. The O Line was Terrible yesterday, dealing with the pressure fronts. Yes, Goff could have done some things better, but the OL was very, very bad.

 

[badnews]

I recommend watching all of the pressers to get a feel for how pissed they are. Brock was cool and collected. Goff looked like he was about ready to burst. Vein in forehead and everything. I expect him to learn from this. He has to know that he single handedly lost this game for his team. In his own words, that was nowhere close to good enough.

Yesterday's shit show was a team effort. It took special teams, the Oline, his recievers and the coaches to help Goff lose that game.

 

[badnews]

I'll say this - I am a big believer in Sean McVay. I don't want another coach and I am fine with our QB too.

But I am starting to realize something that fans in Green Bay learned a couple seasons ago: Its good to have Matt Lafleur.

 

[TXRams86]

I'll say this - I am a big believer in Sean McVay. I don't want another coach and I am fine with our QB too.

But I am starting to realize something that fans in Green Bay learned a couple seasons ago: Its good to have Matt Lafleur.

This is a crossroads that I'm at. McVay is a great head coach, motivator of men and I wouldn't trade him for anyone else today. But McVay, the offensive coordinator/offensive analyst/quarterback coach, leaves much to be desired at times. I don't know if it's because he has a LOT on his plate but there's a disconnect on the offensive side of the ball at times. Maybe he's being spread too thin between HC duties and OC duties - who really knows but Sean. But I wouldn't be opposed to having him get an OC in the booth and relinquish play calling. There's something unhealthy about him in this particular presser...

 

[RamsFanCK]

This is a crossroads that I'm at. McVay is a great head coach, motivator of men and I wouldn't trade him for anyone else today. But McVay, the offensive coordinator/offensive analyst/quarterback coach, leaves much to be desired at times. I don't know if it's because he has a LOT on his plate but there's a disconnect on the offensive side of the ball at times. Maybe he's being spread too thin between HC duties and OC duties - who really knows but Sean. But I wouldn't be opposed to having him get an OC in the booth and relinquish play calling. There's something unhealthy about him in this particular presser...

Isn’t this the reason we hired an OC this off season though? Maybe Mcvay is hesitant to give up that power, just speculating

 

[TXRams86]

Isn’t this the reason we hired an OC this off season though? Maybe Mcvay is hesitant to give up that power, just speculating

That isn't outside the realm of possibilities. Offense has been his baby, bread and butter so I can see it being hard to let go of play calling. Sometimes you're too close to the situation and need to step back for a better perspective. This is just my opinion of course.

 

[thirteen28]

This is a crossroads that I'm at. McVay is a great head coach, motivator of men and I wouldn't trade him for anyone else today. But McVay, the offensive coordinator/offensive analyst/quarterback coach, leaves much to be desired at times. I don't know if it's because he has a LOT on his plate but there's a disconnect on the offensive side of the ball at times. Maybe he's being spread too thin between HC duties and OC duties - who really knows but Sean. But I wouldn't be opposed to having him get an OC in the booth and relinquish play calling. There's something unhealthy about him in this particular presser...

Isn’t this the reason we hired an OC this off season though? Maybe Mcvay is hesitant to give up that power, just speculating

At minimum, I'd like to see the OC whisper in his year "Hey Sean - this isn't working. Let's try something else."

 

[Faceplant]

Yesterday's shit show was a team effort. It took special teams, the Oline, his recievers and the coaches to help Goff lose that game.

That's fair. However, a QB needs to take responsibility after a game like that. HE is the leader of this offense and captain of this team. That is exactly what Goff did. He put it on himself and looked like he wanted to run through walls all the way back to LA.

However!! 5 years into his career and I still think we are seeing things that should have been ironed out in year 3 or so. I love the kid and have always been a Goff homer, but there was a piece of me that wanted to see Wolford for a series or two yesterday...if only to let Goff cool down and look at more film on the sideline. It just seemed that we were giving up back breaking plays every time our offense was out there. It was uncanny. I was legit scared to watch out offense play yesterday, lol.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

Jared, when I was yelling at you to get rid of the ball, I didnt mean fumble it!

And both your picks were just thrown up for grabs. Take the sack. You're getting hit anyway. Bad play call bad protection I dont care. You have to know not to throw those balls up for grabs like that.
...
We all know what you can do so get your shit together man.

The worst part is, he really should have had 3 more, 1 returned for another pick six. The DBs dropped them.

This was his worst game in the McVay era, no doubt in my mind...