McVay wants clarity on Stafford status ASAP

[majrleaged]

Him coming back really hasn't been the question has it? The question, and what needs clarification is for how much. So nothing has changed.

 

[Tumak61]

Rams have all the leverage. Stafford is under contract for two more years. The only leverage Stafford has is to hold out.

 

[Soul Surfer]

I don't know all the details of their relationship but I think it's a little aggressive of McVay to demand any kind of status from Stafford.

At least let his bruises heal up and his headache subside from the last game to catch his breath for a minute.

 

[Liberator]

I don't know all the details of their relationship but I think it's a little aggressive of McVay to demand any kind of status from Stafford.

At least let his bruises heal up and his headache subside from the last game to catch his breath for a minute.

I mean even if you think that’s true we have clarity so mcvay got what he wanted lol

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Rams have all the leverage. Stafford is under contract for two more years. The only leverage Stafford has is to hold out.

I really think they don't have all the leverage. If they don't agree to a contract, it causes a huge headache for the organization to look for his replacement in a shitty QB market. Stafford and his agent know they are by far the Rams best option at winning right now. This whole he's under contract for 2 years means squat if he holds out. With that said, the part I respect about our front office is they don't dick around when it comes to tough decisions. Not saying it will, but if it somehow got ugly on the business side, I know they will not hesitate to rip the band-aid off and do what they have to do. I don't see it going down like that, but we'll all find what truly happens in time.

 

[DzRams]

McVay is smarter than that

This is a little devil's advocate position because I do believe that McVay is smarter than that...but

What if he isn't?

We've seen him trade a QB before when a backup showed that they could run things pretty well themselves. I don't think we would have traded Goff if not for how Wolford played when Goff was injured.

Could that same pattern be repeating? I dare say that Jimmy G ran the offense as well if not better than Stafford with backups against Seattle's starters. Can it be said this fact means nothing?

 

[dieterbrock]

I really think they don't have all the leverage. If they don't agree to a contract, it causes a huge headache for the organization to look for his replacement in a shitty QB market. Stafford and his agent know they are by far the Rams best option at winning right now. This whole he's under contract for 2 years means squat if he holds out. With that said, the part I respect about our front office is they don't dick around when it comes to tough decisions. Not saying it will, but if it somehow got ugly on the business side, I know they will not hesitate to rip the band-aid off and do what they have to do. I don't see it going down like that, but we'll all find what truly happens in time.

Stafford's only leverage is to make 0$
If he retires or holds out, he doesnt get paid

 

[DzRams]

Rams have all the leverage. Stafford is under contract for two more years. The only leverage Stafford has is to hold out.

Agreed. Leverage he was willing to use last year that caused the Rams to cave.

 

[majrleaged]

I don't know all the details of their relationship but I think it's a little aggressive of McVay to demand any kind of status from Stafford.

At least let his bruises heal up and his headache subside from the last game to catch his breath for a minute.

I don't think McVay's message was just for Stafford. It was for the front office as well. McVay has nothing to do with the finances other than letting them know what he wants. What he wants is no drama going into next season. It must have been more of a distraction than we know or McVay thinks it was.

 

[majrleaged]

This is a little devil's advocate position because I do believe that McVay is smarter than that...but

What if he isn't?

We've seen him trade a QB before when a backup showed that they could run things pretty well themselves. I don't think we would have traded Goff if not for how Wolford played when Goff was injured.

Could that same pattern be repeating? I dare say that Jimmy G ran the offense as well if not better than Stafford with backups against Seattle's starters. Can it be said this fact means nothing?

He wouldn't have traded Goff if he wasn't getting what he thought was a better QB in return. Wolford had nothing to do with the decision.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Stafford's only leverage is to make 0$
If he retires or holds out, he doesnt get paid

If he really holds out, Rams could cave again or simply trade him and he'll get paid.. Rams don't hold players hostage. Regardless, Stafford will play ball in 25 and get paid more than the $0 you are stating. Lmao at saying his leverage is to get $0. We are talking about the best QB that could be available to some desperate ass team out there. I just hope we find a way to keep him on the Rams so we can make another run at another SB.

 

[DzRams]

He wouldn't have traded Goff if he wasn't getting what he thought was a better QB in return. Wolford had nothing to do with the decision.

That's not what was reported at the time. The Rams had decided that Goff wasn't it partially because of Wolford's play which opened McVay's eyes.

Don't you recall the words from Snead and McVay right after the season ended? Things to the effect of "Goff is a Ram...for now."

This was before they knew they could trade for Stafford.

 

[dieterbrock]

If he holds out, he'll likely be traded and get paid. Rams don't hold players hostage.

A holdout doesnt mean a trade, and even when it goes down that path, a trade offers no guarantee of a new contract
So the Rams trade him to Cleveland who also dont agree to renegotiate the contract.
That's a win for Stafford?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

A holdout doesnt mean a trade, and even when it goes down that path, a trade offers no guarantee of a new contract
So the Rams trade him to Cleveland who also dont agree to renegotiate the contract.
That's a win for Stafford?

He's getting a new contract, there's zero doubt about that. The question is who will give it to him. Not all teams are in the same cap situation as us so they'll have more money to blow. Do you really think the Rams would do Stafford like that and trade him somewhere he wouldn't get paid what he wanted? Rams do good by their former players when traded more often than not. Stafford has been nothing but good for the Rams.

 

[gabriel18]

I really like Stafford , but how much money do you need ?
Maybe use the money on a big reviver , oline or a ILB. That’s his best chance to win another Lombardi. I’d also want a commitment for the next two seasons. Going through this every year is not a good look. I hope they figure it out , because I want another SB victory in my lifetime.

 

[Loyal]

Rams have all the leverage. Stafford is under contract for two more years. The only leverage Stafford has is to hold out.

He could retire and the Rams would be screwed. He has ALL the leverage.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Stafford's only leverage is to make 0$
If he retires or holds out, he doesnt get paid

This is a good point but if we zoom out in the aggregate, Stafford can make money many other ways both football (broadcasting, etc...) and non-football (he has those Arby's in Telluride) related as early as this year.

Stafford has been to the top of the mountain already by winning a Superbowl. But Stafford says he wants to play next year.

It's a game of chicken and I'd say when you add everything up neither has an outsized amount of leverage on the other this offseason.

 

[DzRams]

He's getting a new contract, there's zero doubt about that. The question is who will give it to him. Not all teams are in the same cap situation as us so they'll have more money to blow. Do you really think the Rams would do Stafford like that and trade him somewhere he wouldn't get paid what he wanted? Rams do good by their former players when traded more often than not. Stafford has been nothing but good for the Rams.

This is a good point. The Rams have done very well by their players, often trading them to destinations they've requested.

There is zero chance they trade him to Cleveland. Allright, maybe I'm exaggerating. There's a 0.001356% chance they trade him to Cleveland.

 

[majrleaged]

That's not what was reported at the time. The Rams had decided that Goff wasn't it partially because of Wolford's play which opened McVay's eyes.

Don't you recall the words from Snead and McVay right after the season ended? Things to the effect of "Goff is a Ram...for now."

This was before they knew they could trade for Stafford.

I remember. I also remember we all speculated that the Rams were privy to the Stafford situation before the end of the season and that the Cabo story was cover.
Whether or not that was true and the Stafford thing was just great fucking timing, Wolford couldn't have been more than their fall back if nothing else was available.
Also, if Stafford didn't happen, I doubt anything else would have happened so fast. In which case the company line or posturing could be nothing more than trying to kick Goff in the ass to let him know even he wasn't secure in his job and he needed to do more to keep his job. And of course, they would probably had Goff on the market to see what else was available. No way in hell they could have thought Wolford was the next guy the team full of Vets would rely on going into the season.

 

[Memphis Ram]

McVay is smarter than that

Shanahan can win with Garoppolo (and Purdy) and McVay cannot?
O'Connell can win 14 games with Darnold?

If McVay is the genius everyone says he is I suspect he could win on offense without a former #1 overall pick at the position.