So the Rams were going to take Dart with their first pick last year because the Rams met with him? I'm sure many teams met with him to only get a feel for him as a possible future opponent or possible later acquisition. And this was before the Rams knew anything about Stafford's back. Do you think Stafford would have been pissed last year if that happened? How about folks here on ROD? The howling would have been LOUD.
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Why do you find it so unbelievable? It's funny how the Rams traded their pick right after the giants jumped them to get dart. Also that they wanted to keep their interest in Simpson private.
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Wait a second. You think they were going to use their first round pick on Dart last year?!?
Yeah, I think the main thing here is it was a tough draft to trade back in. The Rams didn’t pick again until #61. Teams like Zona and the steelers weren’t gonna pass again. This just seemed like a simple case of “if we want him, we have to pick him now because he won’t be there when we pick again.”
And this nonsense floated out there by some blogger that the Rams could flip the pick in a deal to get burrows…
People , wake up. It’s clickbait.
I just want to add to all of this back and forth about mystery, intrigue, and playing it close to the vest stuff.
Regarding Simpson, he was mocked to the Rams very early in the process. Whether that came from the Rams (leak) or it was just something that made sense to somebody, it was out there.
Who actually NEVER considered it a possibility? Regardless of your preferences, you knew it was out there.
If anything this might have hurt the Rams’ chances of trading back. Another team might have felt, “why give them something extra to pick their guy? Make them burn #13.” Sure, that’s a purely speculative statement, but it has about as much merit as thinking the Rams fooled the entire league because nobody saw this coming.
Regarding Simpson, he was mocked to the Rams very early in the process. Whether that came from the Rams (leak) or it was just something that made sense to somebody, it was out there.
Who actually NEVER considered it a possibility? Regardless of your preferences, you knew it was out there.
If anything this might have hurt the Rams’ chances of trading back. Another team might have felt, “why give them something extra to pick their guy? Make them burn #13.” Sure, that’s a purely speculative statement, but it has about as much merit as thinking the Rams fooled the entire league because nobody saw this coming.
He did express discontent in December though. And they DID trade their former 1st overall pick FQ Carson Palmer once.
Mike Brown is as Old School as any NFL owner but if the Bengals fail to make the playoffs again in 2025, that would be four straight years of no post-season appearances with a top-tier, highly-paid-QB; and, that QB will be thirty years old.
I could absolutely envision Joe Burrow wanting a trade; and, eventually, the Bengals moving-on.
Losing gets tiring for players, fans and ownership ... even the Cincinnati Bengals.
If they miss, A-GAIN, I'd say Burrow is definitely a "want-out" candidate. And I'd say the Rams are firmly in the mix. Depends on Stafford though.
All I'm saying is that if McVay's opinion is considered so invaluable by the rest of the league, then his opinion of Bennett, regardless of where he was drafted, should also be highly thought of. And if McVay chose to keep him for four years then why hasn't anyone come calling for him? Theoretically he's only not playing because he has Stafford ahead of him.
All I was trying to communicate is that if a well respected coach likes a certain player people take notice. Do you think it was just a coincidence that the Giants wanted to ensure they jumped the Rams before the pick? Teams do that all of the time when they think a certain team might be hot on a certain player.
Jeff Fisher did it years ago with Lamarcus Joyner, he made sure he Rams moved ahead of the Titans because he felt Tennessee liked him, it happens all of the time and IMO, if the Rams really liked Simpson, why broadcast it? This is just gamesmanship with the NFL draft and it has been happening for years.
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Remember where this team was then. They were cap poor. They couldn't afford to spend 3 or 4M on a vet back up QB. They decided Bennett, a 25 yr old rookie, who had played on a ton of games, could handle being a back up that could get them through a few games. So he was drafted to be a career back up, or at least a back up for that particular situation.
I didn't like that thought process. I think it was shortsighted to take a QB that never had a shot to develop into a starter. I guess they figured any QB they would take would never start here since Stafford was only 34 at the time. In any case why take a QB with such a low ceiling? I guess they just wanted to make sure the floor was at least a functional back up.
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That really couldn't qualify as an actual "plan," as there is no true free agency in Football, a la Baseball. It was definitely in the back of our minds a plan with a CHANCE of it happening, the Simpson alternative is good as you say because of the salary thing but I would still say that we are in the Burrow (or hopefully Josh) sweepstakes if it arises one day.
Then again, even if the situation DOES arise, McSnead may still say, "pass, we're good with Ty."
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If you want an extended SB window, Simpson is the way to go or at least a young QB is the way to go. He will be cheap for 4-5 yrs in terms of QB pay. Even when he finally gets paid, as a young player, you can backload his contract so the first few yrs he is not that expensive cap wise.
Right now the cap hit for Stafford is $48M because they can't kick his cap hit down the road over several years. By comparison Hurts' cap hit is only $22M.