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I'd take Burrow very quickly if he became available next year over Simpson if Stafford moved on or the Rams decided to for whatever reason. He can sit behind Burrow and learn more lol

Pretty sure, Simpson would be IN any Burrow deal. I would be fine with this as well. Whatever McSnead signs off on in regards to the QB position is ALL right by me.
 
If Bennett beats out Simpson in camp then we have a big problem and still need to be looking for an heir apparent to Stafford.
I'd be a bit concerned but not crazy concerned. I wouldn't be surprised by it necessarily since Bennett has the added benefit of knowing McVay's offense and expectations quite a bit more at that time. For me, I'd be more concerned if he can't towards the end of the year/early year 2 at the latest.
 
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Pretty sure, Simpson would be IN any Burrow deal. I would be fine with this as well. Whatever McSnead signs off on in regards to the QB position is ALL right by me.
Maybe and if he is, I'm all for it too. Hard to know if it'll truly play out that way but it is the Bungles and their owner is a dipshit so its always a possibility I guess
 
A top-15 pick should be an obvious upgrade immediately over a career third-stringer, full stop.

I won't let any anxieties about a pick that is exciting but has legitimate questions ignore that.

The 13th overall pick at QB is a massive resource investment and Simpson was picked to be the next franchise QB - NOT a backup QB.

Stetson Bennett is a 2023 4th-rounder who never showed enough to take the backup QB spot in the entire time he was here.

When you take a QB at 13, you're saying "this player is one of the best 13 prospects in the entire draft class at any position, even if he needs a year to sit." That implies NFL-ready traits — arm talent, accuracy, processing, pocket presence — at a level that should make a former 4th-round backup look like what he is. The Rams reportedly had Simpson as QB2 on their board behind only Mendoza. If that evaluation is right, Bennett shouldn't be in the same conversation even with time in the system (time he wasn't able to use to take the backup QB spot!)

If a top-15 investment can't beat out a career third-stringer in camp, it's a real signal that either the evaluation of Simpson was wrong or Simpson's development curve is far worse than should ever be expected for the kind of investment we made and therefore we should expect to continue looking for a future starting QB.
IMO, it's probably a safe bet that MAYBE 3 of the players selected in the top 15 of this draft class would be top 15 selections in the past couple of draft classes.
 
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IMO, it's probably a safe bet that MAYBE 3 of the players selected in the top 15 of this draft class would be top 15 selections in the past couple of draft classes.
Well I'd like to keep on topic here but I don't think it makes any difference to some people on this board if I said that "A top 32 pick should be an obvious upgrade over a career third stringer. Full stop."

I'm not entirely sure why people seem okay with Simpson not beating Bennett out for the 2nd string QB job by the end of camp when I think it's safe to say that's the assumption of McSnead.* Perhaps it's cause McVay said that Simpson will be competing with Bennett for the 2 spot in camp... which blows my mind that some can't discern coachspeak from real speak. Sure he'll be "competing" but for Ty to not start taking 2nd team reps by the 1st preseason game would be a travesty and honestly, if he's not taking 1st team reps (since Stafford will sit parts of camp) before it, that's not that great either as he should be the number 2 this season.

*When McVay was asked if they would look to bring Jimmy back now that they drafted Ty he said something to the point of 'that ship has most likely sailed."

You're not saying that because Bennett is suddenly already elevated. He's a guy - had we not drafted Ty - who we would have looked to bring in someone above him for the QB 2 job. We did not have the confidence for him to be QB 2 and that's why we were talking about bringing in another vet if Jimmy left.

The expectation is that Ty will be QB 2. And if he's not by start of season - end of camp, whatever - there's a tremendous chance we've wasted prominent draft capital. I'm not saying Ty is a finished product either just that his FLOOR should absolutely be higher than winning the number 2 QB job from a third string QB in camp.

Mind you - and I can't believe this needs to be said but here we are on a message board - I believe Ty will be QB 2 in camp within the first few weeks.
 
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The expectation is that Ty will be QB 2. And if he's not by start of season - end of camp, whatever - there's a tremendous chance we've wasted prominent draft capital.

This is just, TOO funny :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
 
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I think expecting a rookie QB to immediately take the backup spot for a McVay run team is expecting a lot. I’d be (pleasantly) surprised if he did enough to win the backup spot out of TC. But I won’t be making wild, negative comments & judgements on him if he doesn’t.
 
I think expecting a rookie QB to immediately take the backup spot for a McVay run team is expecting a lot. I’d be (pleasantly) surprised if he did enough to win the backup spot out of TC. But I won’t be making wild, negative comments & judgements on him if he doesn’t.
Only simpletons will.
 
I'd take Burrow very quickly if he became available next year over Simpson if Stafford moved on or the Rams decided to for whatever reason. He can sit behind Burrow and learn more lol
Who wouldn't take Burrow?
Simpson is likely to be an included piece in any Burrow trade.
 
A top-15 pick should be an obvious upgrade immediately over a career third-stringer, full stop.

I won't let any anxieties about a pick that is exciting but has legitimate questions ignore that.

The 13th overall pick at QB is a massive resource investment and Simpson was picked to be the next franchise QB - NOT a backup QB.

Stetson Bennett is a 2023 4th-rounder who never showed enough to take the backup QB spot in the entire time he was here.

When you take a QB at 13, you're saying "this player is one of the best 13 prospects in the entire draft class at any position, even if he needs a year to sit." That implies NFL-ready traits — arm talent, accuracy, processing, pocket presence — at a level that should make a former 4th-round backup look like what he is. The Rams reportedly had Simpson as QB2 on their board behind only Mendoza. If that evaluation is right, Bennett shouldn't be in the same conversation even with time in the system (time he wasn't able to use to take the backup QB spot!)

If a top-15 investment can't beat out a career third-stringer in camp, it's a real signal that either the evaluation of Simpson was wrong or Simpson's development curve is far worse than should ever be expected for the kind of investment we made and therefore we should expect to continue looking for a future starting QB

Because the Rams are so well known to play offensive rookies?

I believe the plan from the very beginning is to redshirt this guy get him completely up to speed with the offense. Bring him along slowly. The Rams didn't keep Bennett on the team for Bennetts sake or just to keep him sober. If they didn't think he could play they would have replaced him.

In all the conversations leading up to the draft one of the biggest issues was lack of experience. Now all of a sudden he should be ready to play if Stafford goes down?

Just because McVay says Simpson will compete for QB2 doesn't mean he is planning for it to happen or even wants it to happen. He wants the carrot to be there, but he wants Bennett to keep the rookie with the clipboard, not getting killed because he struggles to read the NFL defenses and looks for the wrong routes to be run. History tells us a QB that only has one season of college experience starting, forced onto the field in his first year is a recipe for busting.

Bennett knows the offense and what McVay wants in each scenario. He may struggle if he has to play, but him loosing his confidence has a lot less consequence than Simpson losing his.
 
Because the Rams are so well known to play offensive rookies?

I believe the plan from the very beginning is to redshirt this guy get him completely up to speed with the offense. Bring him along slowly. The Rams didn't keep Bennett on the team for Bennetts sake or just to keep him sober. If they didn't think he could play they would have replaced him.

In all the conversations leading up to the draft one of the biggest issues was lack of experience. Now all of a sudden he should be ready to play if Stafford goes down?

Just because McVay says Simpson will compete for QB2 doesn't mean he is planning for it to happen or even wants it to happen. He wants the carrot to be there, but he wants Bennett to keep the rookie with the clipboard, not getting killed because he struggles to read the NFL defenses and looks for the wrong routes to be run. History tells us a QB that only has one season of college experience starting, forced onto the field in his first year is a recipe for busting.

Bennett knows the offense and what McVay wants in each scenario. He may struggle if he has to play, but him loosing his confidence has a lot less consequence than Simpson losing his.

His hatred for Ty Simpson overcedes all logic. Cant take being wrong, LOL.
 
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Well I'd like to keep on topic here but I don't think it makes any difference to some people on this board if I said that "A top 32 pick should be an obvious upgrade over a career third stringer. Full stop."

I'm not entirely sure why people seem okay with Simpson not beating Bennett out for the 2nd string QB job by the end of camp when I think it's safe to say that's the assumption of McSnead.* Perhaps it's cause McVay said that Simpson will be competing with Bennett for the 2 spot in camp... which blows my mind that some can't discern coachspeak from real speak. Sure he'll be "competing" but for Ty to not start taking 2nd team reps by the 1st preseason game would be a travesty and honestly, if he's not taking 1st team reps (since Stafford will sit parts of camp) before it, that's not that great either as he should be the number 2 this season.

*When McVay was asked if they would look to bring Jimmy back now that they drafted Ty he said something to the point of 'that ship has most likely sailed."

You're not saying that because Bennett is suddenly already elevated. He's a guy - had we not drafted Ty - who we would have looked to bring in someone above him for the QB 2 job. We did not have the confidence for him to be QB 2 and that's why we were talking about bringing in another vet if Jimmy left.

The expectation is that Ty will be QB 2. And if he's not by start of season - end of camp, whatever - there's a tremendous chance we've wasted prominent draft capital. I'm not saying Ty is a finished product either just that his FLOOR should absolutely be higher than winning the number 2 QB job from a third string QB in camp.

Mind you - and I can't believe this needs to be said but here we are on a message board - I believe Ty will be QB 2 in camp within the first few weeks.
I think the thing you are missing is, Simpson was picked to be the starter in the future. Not to upgrade the backup QB now.
 
I think the thing you are missing is, Simpson was picked to be the starter in the future. Not to upgrade the backup QB now.
I think any QB who has a chance to be a top 15 starter in the NFL in the future's floor should be quite a bit higher than not beating out a third string QB in his first camp.

I don't think I'm missing anything. I think I'm seeing beyond my fandom and using clear eyes.