Matthew Stafford’s wife reveals how panic attack exposed relationship issue

[Mackeyser]

Every woman??? Lol

Not sure what that has to do with anything I said. But ok

1) I was replying to @Jacobarch who said "Nah any woman that goes online and tells the world you and your families personal business is no good in my book"

Seems an odd take in a world with billions of women on Facebook. I mean, more people share their lives than don't on Facebook. And as much as I HATE, HATE, HATE Facebook, I can't ignore the truth of that. So criticizing Mrs Stafford for her podcast or whatever when it's really nothing more than a more elaborate post on Facebook makes no sense to me. I just find it an odd take.

3) People recovering from TBI and brain surgery can have a terribly hard road back. When they went under or before the injury they were one person. What comes out of that no one knows. People have observed their loved ones becoming different handed, liking things they hated or vice versa, hating their formerly favorite things. The list of possible changes is long. Panic attacks over little things may be part of her recovery process. We don't know.

Mrs Stafford had to relearn how to walk as well as take care of herself. She's still not reclaimed her former vigor and energy. And as someone who's disabled, I know that it can feel and sometimes be pretty damn selfish when you just need more than you're giving. Also, it's okay to talk about one's mental health. As long as they both are communicating, then it's all good.

Lastly, what did she say? She had a panic attack? Okay. And Matthew is perfectly within his purview to ask for more if Kelly is capable of giving it.

I guess I'm confused with what anyone's issue is with her. Well, other than the poster who called her a name.

 

[Mackeyser]

FWIW the title of this thread was my lame attempt at bawdy humor about a husband being last on his wife's "to do" list. Certainly apologize if anyone was offended by it, not my intention of course, and by all means if a mod wishes to change the title please go right ahead.

Kelly chose to share some personal stuff, and I Tried to make it clear that I was impressed by the couple's ability to communicate. Wish I could change the thread title though, i intended something bawdy and lighthearted, but obviously it wasn't. My bad.

I agree with you. Communication is so important. Heck, after Kobe passed, Shaq went on multiple shows/podcasts, etc talking about how he should have opened up and communicated more. It's not just for spouses... it's for everybody.

I just wouldn't want Matthew to maybe not post here if something cool were going on because he or his people look and we got at thread making a crude joke at his wife's expense.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Skimming thru the article, what the actual F. If my wife talked about this shit to the media she'd be divorced overnight. Why do people in the limelight always want to make their personal business ours? It's nasty.

Maybe this article is the reason Stafford played like shit Sunday night. Maybe his head was somewhere else? Just sayin

Edit: After reading the whole article my mind has been made up. What a cunnnnnnnnnnnnnt. Complaining about things that EVERY person with kids has to deal with. Every person with a job has to deal with, and every person in a relationship has to deal with. The fact that she felt it's important to tell the world they're having issues is just icing on the cake for me. A typical trophy wife, with that typical "whoa is me" attitude. Gross, Stafford... buddy if you're out there. Word of advice, run.

Yeah that’s pretty bad. She obviously loves the attention of the fans. S

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

1) I was replying to @Jacobarch who said "Nah any woman that goes online and tells the world you and your families personal business is no good in my book"

Seems an odd take in a world with billions of women on Facebook. I mean, more people share their lives than don't on Facebook. And as much as I HATE, HATE, HATE Facebook, I can't ignore the truth of that. So criticizing Mrs Stafford for her podcast or whatever when it's really nothing more than a more elaborate post on Facebook makes no sense to me. I just find it an odd take.

3) People recovering from TBI and brain surgery can have a terribly hard road back. When they went under or before the injury they were one person. What comes out of that no one knows. People have observed their loved ones becoming different handed, liking things they hated or vice versa, hating their formerly favorite things. The list of possible changes is long. Panic attacks over little things may be part of her recovery process. We don't know.

Mrs Stafford had to relearn how to walk as well as take care of herself. She's still not reclaimed her former vigor and energy. And as someone who's disabled, I know that it can feel and sometimes be pretty damn selfish when you just need more than you're giving. Also, it's okay to talk about one's mental health. As long as they both are communicating, then it's all good.

Lastly, what did she say? She had a panic attack? Okay. And Matthew is perfectly within his purview to ask for more if Kelly is capable of giving it.

I guess I'm confused with what anyone's issue is with her. Well, other than the poster who called her a name.

I think she has always been doing these podcasts. I hope she hasn’t always told her fans every time she and Matt had an argument. I don’t recall reading about marital issues on Facebook. I’ve had an account for ten years. Well okay I do see it from a certain group of people but they are not the most mature, several use drugs, etc…

It is possible this was in Matthews head a lot recently. We can’t know that for sure but it would be in mine.

What you said about brain surgery can happen but doesn’t always. My dad and wife’s aunt both had it and other than the recovery process they seemed the same. So did my niece’s fiancé. He had a piece of his brain removed. I also had a female friend that had panic attacks. She never had brain surgery even though I think she had an enlarged medulla oblongata.

It’s also difficult on the spouse when the other is going through the healing process.I kept wondering how my wife put up with my very long recovery from neck/head surgery.

If she needs help then they’ve got the money to get some. Therapy, nanny, life coach, whatever but I would hate it if my wife told the public about our marital problems.

 

[Mackeyser]

I think she has always been doing these podcasts. I hope she hasn’t always told her fans every time she and Matt had an argument. I don’t recall reading about marital issues on Facebook. I’ve had an account for ten years. Well okay I do see it from a certain group of people but they are not the most mature, several use drugs, etc…

It is possible this was in Matthews head a lot recently. We can’t know that for sure but it would be in mine.

What you said about brain surgery can happen but doesn’t always. My dad and wife’s aunt both had it and other than the recovery process they seemed the same. So did my niece’s fiancé. He had a piece of his brain removed. I also had a female friend that had panic attacks. She never had brain surgery even though I think she had an enlarged medulla oblongata.

It’s also difficult on the spouse when the other is going through the healing process.I kept wondering how my wife put up with my very long recovery from neck/head surgery.

If she needs help then they’ve got the money to get some. Therapy, nanny, life coach, whatever but I would hate it if my wife told the public about our marital problems.

Fair enough, but I think if Matthew didn’t like it, he would have objected at some point. At the very least, he wouldn’t be a regular guest.

Also, the fans in Detroit really enjoyed it and they mourned the family leaving as much if not more than the player.

As for what people share on Facebook… rest assured it’s all there. My point was that there’s no real difference between a wife who posts constantly on Facebook and one with a vlog/podcast.

 

[iamme33]

I challenge any Rams player to swap money with me to test how finances impact stress.

yeah i remember thinking that those really rich people have all those worries about losing their money. than i realized that i was driving about 20 miles a day to a second job with cord showing thru on my tires and praying i could get the job done so i could buy a set of recaps. that is when i realized that having a lot of money is way less stressful than living pay check to pay check. the really rich may cry and whine about stress but they get no sympathy from me .

 

[Zodi]

yeah i remember thinking that those really rich people have all those worries about losing their money. than i realized that i was driving about 20 miles a day to a second job with cord showing thru on my tires and praying i could get the job done so i could buy a set of recaps. that is when i realized that having a lot of money is way less stressful than living pay check to pay check. the really rich may cry and whine about stress but they get no sympathy from me .

If you're a business owner and revenue is down and you're responsible for the livelihood of other people, I guarantee you that shit causes more stress (unless you're a sociopath) than the condition of your tires. Money can give you security with personal finances but it can also bring along stress other people can't relate to.

Biggie said it best. Mo' money mo' problems.

 

[bluecoconuts]

If you're a business owner and revenue is down and you're responsible for the livelihood of other people, I guarantee you that shit causes more stress (unless you're a sociopath) than the condition of your tires. Money can give you security with personal finances but it can also bring along stress other people can't relate to.

Biggie said it best. Mo' money mo' problems.

Nah, there are billions of people around the world that would happily trade lives with a struggling business owner. Stress is relative and life is about perspective, in my experience the majority of business owners, including those who struggle to stay afloat, can't truly grasp what some people have to go through on a daily basis just to survive. It's something you can't grasp until you've seen it in person.

And if you're one of the privileged few that has millions of dollars and the ability to retire into a hut on the beach sipping mia ties, I'm probably going roll my eyes when you try to relate.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I think the issue here may be more about the public nature of her comments than the comments themselves. Thing is, 20/30 year olds communicate in ways today that are far different than how many of us did a generation ago. It's not so much that women have changed, but the technology that allows for them to be heard.
I don't know what kind of circles your wives and girlfriends travelled in at Kelly's age, but I can certainly remember listening in on a few hen parties that would shake many men to their foundations. Get a few drinks into these ladies and the details would flow in a way I've never heard men share with other men. I was never meant to hear this stuff, but mine was a party house and the girls could be disturbingly frank among themselves when they got together. Women don't always have the same outlets as men, their communication with one another may be more on the therapeutic side, I don't really know, but I do find it fascinating. jmo.

 

[Zodi]

Nah, there are billions of people around the world that would happily trade lives with a struggling business owner.

I never said otherwise. But since we're using a strawman, there are billions of people who would change places with someone going to work and worrying about their tires. Like I said, money can buy you personal security but for most, maintaining or growing that wealth is another level of stress people living paycheck to paycheck can't relate to.

in my experience the majority of business owners, including those who struggle to stay afloat, can't truly grasp what some people have to go through on a daily basis just to survive

Im willing to go out on a limb and say most successful small business owners didn't start life as successful small business owners haha. At one point in their life, their struggles more than likely directly mirrored their income level. They're also more likely to have experienced those day to day struggles than someone currently at that income level have experienced what it's like to be completely responsible for the livelihood of their employees.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I never said otherwise. But since we're using a strawman, there are billions of people who would change places with someone going to work and worrying about their tires. Like I said, money can buy you personal security but for most, maintaining or growing that wealth is another level of stress people living paycheck to paycheck can't relate to.



Im willing to go out on a limb and say most successful small business owners didn't start life as successful small business owners haha. At one point in their life, their struggles more than likely directly mirrored their income level. They're also more likely to have experienced those day to day struggles than someone currently at that income level have experienced what it's like to be completely responsible for their livelihood of their employees.

The first part of your post gets into my point about life being about perspective. Yes, there are a lot of people who would love to have a car and a job, especially in the west, so if you're one of those people who have that and have money, that's a really exclusive club to be in. If it's hard for a struggling westerner to understand what it's like to struggle in the global south, then it's nigh impossible for the successful/wealth westerner to understand.

The second part of your post, I never said that they didn't have to deal with their own stress or struggles, I said that most don't understand what it's really like because their employees often don't even have the opportunities to be in that position. I don't subscribe to the idea of the benevolent business owner who's so worried that much about their employees livelihood. Yes, there are some that are the exception that proves the rule, but they're rare. There aren't many people who'll go hungry so that others may eat, that's just basic human nature.

However, speaking of strawmen, we're not talking about the struggling business owner here, we're talking about someone who's married to a man who's career earnings are 246 million dollars, and will be 270 million by the time he signs his next contract or retires, so be careful throwing those stones now.

I'm a fan of the Staffords, any struggles they go to I wish them the best, and I hope they navigate it successfully, but if they ask me for sympathy for an issue that is something completely within their realm of control they're going to have to look elsewhere.

 

[VegasRam]

Don't see anyone anywhere asking for sympathy.

 

[Mackeyser]

Can we not have this devolve into a "whose stress is greater" debate?

Stress is relative, anyway. Some people handle certain stresses better than others.

Put me in a high powered multitasking job and I'd stress out completely.

Put me in a high powered job reliant on extreme focus for long periods and I'd be in my elements whereas my wife, the multitasker, would be bouncing off the walls.

Some people can handle a lack of sleep. Others... they completely crumble.

Anyway, this is one of those "talk past one another" type things that eventually gets a thread locked.

Also... it's 9er week and we need to curb stomp these assholes!!!

 

[gogoat1]

Some are actual members here. So yeah... "Think before you post" is there for more than just one reason.

Well if that,s the case.........
McVay, toss those run plays out of the shot gun in the dumpster. While you are it it throw the shotgun formations on 3rd and 1 in there too !!!!
Give the RB a head of steam. Simple plays on 3rd and short. Too many things to go wrong passing the ball sometimes.
There, I said it.
Doing a great job Sean, no other coach I would rather have.

 

[Giles]

Why would you even put this out to the public? I see zero reason.

 

[Mackeyser]

Meh. People do that now.

Used to be where other than a "letter to the editor", no one heard your voice unless you were anointed. And when social media came along, the same thing happened as did with medicine: The AMA said, "you can't tell Drs how to practice medicine" and then HMOs popped up with a "wanna bet"... and thanks to those aholes, we have a level of rationed care that is by the numbers more restrictive than even the UK's NHS.

So we went from gatekeepers in the media who tried to say, "you can't just let anyone have the mic" and whatnot to literally everyone having a bullhorn in the public square. Us old folks remember the quiet, maybe with rose colored eardrums because for all the peace and quiet, a lot of people who SHOULD have had the mic couldn't get it. Dunno how much better it is that everyone has the mic, but that's how it is now.

I don't judge the young people now or people that are doing the new thing because that's how it is. I can always choose to unplug as much as I like up to and including going full Ted Kaczynski and having a shack in the woods with no electricity or running water.

Is it different? Yep. Is it better? Meh... I dunno...better in some ways, worse in other and I dunno which ways it leans. Maybe that changes per individual or situation? I dunno. Is it gonna go back to the days when one could leave their house and just walk around the block and you were more out of reach then than you would be now with your phone in the Sahara desert? Nope.

I do have one strong take: her sharing doesn't make her a bad person. That take is trash and I'll just agree now to disagree with anyone who's "sharing in the public space makes you a C..." Ugh. Cuz I'll repeat... the FB posts that most people make are hardly different from a vlog/podcast other than length, really, so the issue isn't that she's got a podcast/vlog. It's that she shared something personal...which in and of itself isn't bad. I mean, if Matthew came out and said, "I sure wish she'd just stop talking about us on her podcast", that'd be really different...but he not only hasn't done that, he's been on the podcast and supports his wife doing it (unless we think he's a hostage to his wife and lying... which doesn't jibe with what we know about him).

 

[Faceplant]

My point was that there’s no real difference between a wife who posts constantly on Facebook and one with a vlog/podcast

I would agree with that. I would also say that both are (for the most part) narcissistic attention hos and are as annoying as a hang nail....luckily enough, I am able to ignore them. Problem solved.

 

[Ramhusker]

Damn! Please just delete this thread!

 

[Classic Rams]

In before the lock!

 

[iamme33]

If you're a business owner and revenue is down and you're responsible for the livelihood of other people, I guarantee you that shit causes more stress (unless you're a sociopath) than the condition of your tires. Money can give you security with personal finances but it can also bring along stress other people can't relate to.

this thread is becoming way to political so i will put in this one more post than i am out of here. over the years i worked at the same job i never once seen a time when the owner did not care more about his bottom line then his employees. now i am sure there are owners who care about their employees but this was not about business owners it was about a very rich house wife who's revenue were not down. getting back to owners that their revenues are down most would not take a cut to their profits instead they cut employees. i am not saying there are not some who would take a cut in their pay but they are a minority. sorry about this getting so political so i will head back to football. again sorry i am out of here.