Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[El Chapo Jr]

I'm intrigued to see who has called. I'd imagine at least the Giants and Steelers. Maybe the raiders?

Think it'll be more than that. Although Stafford is old, he's still top notch. It would be smart for his agent to get every team's offer he can even if it isn't serious interest. I could see the Titans, Vikings, Jets, and maybe the Colts inquiring as well.

 

[dieterbrock]

The disadvantage the Rams have is that a team that trades for him doesn’t have to worry about the near 50 mill of dead cap that the Rams have to deal with.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Yeah IDK man. Anytime the Rams have been reported to be letting a player seek a trade or letting a player talk to other agents they're usually not wearing horns very much longer.

 

[Corbin]

The disadvantage the Rams have is that a team that trades for him doesn’t have to worry about the near 50 mill of dead cap that the Rams have to deal with.

I think that’s exactly what adds to his trade compensation value

 

[Merlin]

There are much more talented players of need we can use in those rounds.

I agree. But we are discussing QB options here. Also a young QB may keep McVay invested as he will have that element to pour into for his offense.

I also think Howard is a good option as a first year redshirt. And like with Dart it is not that I think the Rams should take him over a weapon for Stafford, but rather that if we are talking good options to sit behind him on the depth chart and keep the head coach feeling good about the future, he's a good way to go.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Kiper with interesting stats on QBs not selected within the top 5 picks.


View: https://youtu.be/ZI834EpsvkA?si=Br9KWsZdEkQ_TQgV

 

[payote75]

Look for me the giants don't want to part with the 3rd pick that's fine there coaching squad gm included will all be fired. So I'd take their second this year and with Stafford they should improve they need to give their 1st next year. No first no Stafford that's any team. Why do we always get screwed.

I know wussell was younger but how old was he when Denver gave up 36 draft picks for him? And the decline before the trade was visible to everyone.

 

[payote75]

Also not advocating because I dislike most of his personality but comparing Rodgers stats last year coming off a major injury a disgruntled Wilson a meh offensive line and yes a late addition of Adams his stats almost mirror Staffords. Also played ton cold weather games and a terrible disjointed coaching staff. Just saying...here lots warm weather for the old bat mcvay better o-line lafluer if he takes half the money or less that is something to contemplate plus free agency plus what ever you get BK for Stafford and the draft.

 

[dieterbrock]

I think that’s exactly what adds to his trade compensation value

Kind of works the other way around. The more they are forced to trade him, the lower the value. That said, if he ever were to officially be on the market there could be 2-4 teams willing to compete for his services. I think the best case scenario would be Pittsburgh #1 or giants 2nd rounder

 

[TSFH Fan]

Kiper with interesting stats on QBs not selected within the top 5 picks.


View: https://youtu.be/ZI834EpsvkA?si=Br9KWsZdEkQ_TQgV

Here's a history of QBs drafted for fans who want to go through it and I.D. which QBs were hits or not. Different fans have different opinions of what a "hit" is.

DraftHistory.com

www.drafthistory.com

Kiper's review classified a QB who started a playoff game as a "hit"? Too low of a bar for us, imo.
QBs like Tim Tebow, Mark Sanchez, Derrek Carr, Mac Jones and Jimmy Garoppolo were all hits under Kiper's review - John Wolfford would have been too, if Kiper took FAs into account.

I'd hope that most fans want a QB for the Rams that does more than just start a playoff game. The "hit" rate, using Ram fan expectations to define "hit", would be (much) lower than Kiper's "hit" rate.

Point? People who want the Rams to simply draft Stafford's replacement next year seem to be focused more on (low percentage) possibilities than history-based probabilities.

 

[Corbin]

Kind of works the other way around. The more they are forced to trade him, the lower the value. That said, if he ever were to officially be on the market there could be 2-4 teams willing to compete for his services. I think the best case scenario would be Pittsburgh #1 or giants 2nd rounder

You posted the Rams are at a disadvantage because they have to pay 50 mill and then say it works bad for his trade compensation?

 

[dieterbrock]

You posted the Rams are at a disadvantage because they have to pay 50 mill and then say it works bad for his trade compensation?

Well, it’s 2 different topics
1) allowing Stafford agent to talk to other teams to see what kind of contract they would offer, puts the Rams at a disadvantage and frankly is kind of dumb. Other teams don’t have a 50 mill dead cap hit like the Rams have so that’s a huge issue
2) if the Rams have no choice but to trade him, his value drops if teams know that
Only thing that could spike the value is a bidding war
Not sure how this doesn’t make sense to you

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Kind of works the other way around. The more they are forced to trade him, the lower the value. That said, if he ever were to officially be on the market there could be 2-4 teams willing to compete for his services. I think the best case scenario would be Pittsburgh #1 or giants 2nd rounder

I wouldn't take anything lower than a #1 plus another pick. Stafford may be advanced in age but he's still a stud plus the amount of money that owner is going to get from an excited fan base whether thru tickets or merch.

 

[IBruce80]

Nah, not having that.
70 mil a season?
Someone's on a wind up.

 

[dieterbrock]

I wouldn't take anything lower than a #1 plus another pick. Stafford may be advanced in age but he's still a stud plus the amount of money that owner is going to get from an excited fan base whether thru tickets or merch.

They may have no choice.
If teams are willing to pay him 50-60 mill, the Rams are fucked. They can’t pay him that on top of what’s left dead money wise.
Not sure I see the wisdom in allowing the agent to look around.

 

[PhillyRam]

I wouldn't take anything lower than a #1 plus another pick. Stafford may be advanced in age but he's still a stud plus the amount of money that owner is going to get from an excited fan base whether thru tickets or merch.

Mid 1 or early 2 this year and a #2 next year that could elevate based on Stafford's play.

And if it's Pitt, I also want our 5th rounder back from the Dotson trade.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Here's a history of QBs drafted for fans who want to go through it and I.D. which QBs were hits or not. Different fans have different opinions of what a "hit" is.

DraftHistory.com

www.drafthistory.com

Kiper's review classified a QB who started a playoff game as a "hit"? Too low of a bar for us, imo.
QBs like Tim Tebow, Mark Sanchez, Derrek Carr, Mac Jones and Jimmy Garoppolo were all hits under Kiper's review - John Wolfford would have been too, if Kiper took FAs into account.

I'd hope that most fans want a QB for the Rams that does more than just start a playoff game. The "hit" rate, using Ram fan expectations to define "hit", would be (much) lower than Kiper's "hit" rate.

Point? People who want the Rams to simply draft Stafford's replacement next year seem to be focused more on (low percentage) possibilities than history-based probabilities.

Could be because even Stafford didn't do much playoff wise until he joined the Rams.

 

[Ramhusker]

I'm hoping that MS settles for top-ten money that is still "somewhere in the 50's" of millions. Here's the list of top 15 QB's in terms of Average Annual Value per year as of 2024:

1. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $60 million (4 years, $240 million)

2 (tie). Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: $55 million (5 years, $275 million)

2 (tie). Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers: $55 million (4 years, $220 million)

5. Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: $53.1 million (4 years, $212.4 million)

6. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $53 million (4 years, $212 million)

7. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: $52.5 million (5 years, $262.5 million)

8. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: $52 million (5 years, $260 million)

9. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: $51 million (5 years, $255 million)

10. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: $46.1 million (5 years, $230.5 million)

11. Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns: $46 million (5 years, $230 million)

12 (tie). Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: $45 million (10 years, $450 million)

12 (tie). Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons: $45 million (4 years, $180 million)

14. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million (6 years, $258 million)

15 (tie). Daniel Jones, New York Giants: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)

15 (tie). Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: $40 million (4 years, $160 million)


ME: How about both sides agree to a deal that averages 54M per year and call it a day? That way Stafford's ego can be satisfied.... he'd make more than Goff and also be in the top 5. And Rams can still sign some free agents.

This is what's going to happen. If you at least make Stafford the highest paid QB in the division (Murray $46.1M) and in the building (Herbert at $52.5M) you'll make him happy. Give him $54M to be top 5. That is what he is and it trumps Goff. Cap going up that much right?

 

[Ramhusker]

I agree. But we are discussing QB options here. Also a young QB may keep McVay invested as he will have that element to pour into for his offense.

I also think Howard is a good option as a first year redshirt. And like with Dart it is not that I think the Rams should take him over a weapon for Stafford, but rather that if we are talking good options to sit behind him on the depth chart and keep the head coach feeling good about the future, he's a good way to go.

Exactly what I'm thinking is a smart move. Maybe Howard makes it to pick 100 or so. Then it becomes very reasonable in my eyes.

 

[Gandalf]

Yeah IDK man. Anytime the Rams have been reported to be letting a player seek a trade or letting a player talk to other agents they're usually not wearing horns very much longer.

And we don't get much in return.