Matt Skura, Oday Aboushi and Ty Nsekhe stepped up when called into action

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Obviously we need to see who our O line coach is going to be...

But beyond that I don't see how anyone can project guys as starters next season after they missed time this season with serious injuries

Noteboom, Bruss.... Jackson played well but blood clots are serious and could be an ongoing issue.

We have some guys that stepped up last year so yes we have options but we have a lot of questions as well.
 

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I would agree with your #1.

As I recall McVays opening season OL insurance plan consisted of only 3 OL'ers on the MR53....heavily depending on veteran Bobby Evans as the main relief & 2-second yr OL'ers Alaric Jackson & Tremayne Anchrum. Neither Jackson nor Anchrum had ever started an NFL game. Anchrum had zero snaps in 2021 & Jackson had 61 snaps in 2021 in relief of injured Whitworth & Noteboom @ LT.

McVay went with FOUR Wide Outs in relief in 2 to 3 starting positions. He went with only THREE OL reliefs in a 5 starting player unit. The point I was pushing is the 2022 OL insurance plan could have been much better.

Ref. #2 statement......Yes, the depth of seasoned OL'ers did improve but I would say there are huge amounts of OL questions currently.

#3 Yes in agreement however that only helps out on a relief OC position & will not beef up the starting unit in 2023.
Didn't Jackson start at Arizona last year when we had all those guys out with Covid? He played well in that game. That game was the turning point of our season.
 

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This has the look we need at OL lol (Nate Herbig)

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The health of our 2 signed LT's is just 2 of many questions that are in the vapor at this point. I am sure McVay went into 2022 thinking the young Jackson was his back up @ LT.

In the very young Jackson's recent comments on social media, he sure let it be known he was planning to play for the Rams & did not mention his blood clot condition but he also could be not fully aware of how serious this condition is. He has had weight issues & huge variances in his conditioning plus is a very big human being 6-7 tall.
Didn't Jackson start at Arizona last year when we had all those guys out with Covid? He played well in that game. That game was the turning point of our season.

If he did start that Vikings game the NFL did not give him credit for it. I know you are correct that Noteboom was where he is usually on the IR & Andrew Whitworth (knee) was either hurting or was injured which resulted in Rookie Jackson getting those over 50 snaps with the offense in 2021.
Yes, his first appearance in the NFL as a rookie in the LT post was an eye-opening event!:wow2::explode1:
Didn't Jackson start the Minnesota game last yr?

However, I generally agree about questions remain, mostly due to guys with injury histories.
  • Appeared in four regular season games and two playoff games during his rookie campaign.
  • Played the majority of his regular season snaps (52) in a Week 16 victory at Minnesota in 2021.
 
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I thought it was a good idea to turn to a veteran street free agent as long as he wasn't totally wore out as compared to a second or a third string guy who is still developing.

Look at what John Sullivan did for the offensive line.
 

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When you add a veteran on the o line you get serious benefits;

Leadership
Experience
Confidence
Stick-to-it-ive-ness

Those traits immediately help the young guys settle down and believe that they can get it done as a unit.

It was actually like night and day, particularly in the running game.
I think even Akers felt the confidence.

I don't know the whole inside story but I wish they had brought those guys in a little bit sooner.

Some of the lineups they seem to try to push the younger guys in when I don't think they were ready for prime time.
 

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I will always go back to The Big 5 first ever post.I saw it with my own eye & thought it was so RAD w/ Sullivan & Big Whit. They went the sideline and it was just a scrimmage for Charger Fans only.
It was the changing of the guards.Jared Goff came off the field.The defense was on the other side of the field going against P. Rivers. Big Whit & Sullivan were at the back end on the left side of the field. Goff went up to them just to see what was up & made sure all was good.
Roger Saffold got beat by the Chargers DT & was down on himself. The end of 2016 he left the locker rooms after hearing Jared Goff saying this is not going to happen next season.We’re not going to accept lossing. Saffold sort of Mocked Goff.
Point being Saffold had never been in a solid locker room on offense. He didn’t know what leadership looked like. Havienstien & J. Brown were still inexperienced.They were by themselves. Finally they came together & Big Whit had the Saturday pre-night dinners.
 

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I would resign Nsekhe and Skura.
Best case others step up and they can be held on the PS for vet depth.
If no one step up they provide solid vet depth, Skura at all three interior spots.
Neither would cost much.
This is a no brainer to me.

You’re a smart man!! IMO based on how The Rams do things Matt Skura should be signed as a Backup C/G..
 

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You’re a smart man!! IMO based on how The Rams do things Matt Skura should be signed as a Backup C/G..

When you add a veteran on the o line you get serious benefits;

Leadership
Experience
Confidence
Stick-to-it-ive-ness

Those traits immediately help the young guys settle down and believe that they can get it done as a unit.

It was actually like night and day, particularly in the running game.
I think even Akers felt the confidence.

I don't know the whole inside story but I wish they had brought those guys in a little bit sooner.

Some of the lineups they seem to try to push the younger guys in when I don't think they were ready for prime time.
Been posting for years on the Special Blending of the OL unit. I am still amazed how lucky KC got when they drafted their outstanding young OC. Most starting college OL'ers are severly handicapped in terms of skill for the NFL

My discussion on that element goes back to before the start of the 2020 season.
 

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I thought it was a good idea to turn to a veteran street free agent as long as he wasn't totally wore out as compared to a second or a third string guy who is still developing.

Look at what John Sullivan did for the offensive line.


Below is a Ram article that speaks about the positive contribution of veteran backup LT Ty Nsekhe who we have been posting about:

Nsekhe helped replace Joe Noteboom and Alaric Jackson after they went down with injuries, allowing just eight pressures in 10 games.
  • WR Cooper Kupp: 86.3
  • RB Cam Akers: 80.7
  • RT Rob Havenstein: 73.2
  • WR Tutu Atwell: 70.9
  • LT Ty Nsekhe: 70.6
In addition, this article goes on to discuss 3 other 2022 veterans Ram Ol'ers. Matt Skura appears in the negative area in this article.....however Skura was never known for playing LG, much more of a center skilled OL'er.

Skura and Kolone were thrust into action after the Rams’ primary linemen went down, allowing 13 pressures each on the interior. Evans really had a tough season, allowing 24 pressures in just nine games on 203 pass-blocking snaps.
  • G Matt Skura: 48.3
  • OL Jeremiah Kolone: 36.1
  • OL Bobby Evans: 29.8
 
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Below is a Ram article that speaks about the positive contribution of veteran backup LT Ty Nsekhe who we have been posting about:

Nsekhe helped replace Joe Noteboom and Alaric Jackson after they went down with injuries, allowing just eight pressures in 10 games.
  • WR Cooper Kupp: 86.3
  • RB Cam Akers: 80.7
  • RT Rob Havenstein: 73.2
  • WR Tutu Atwell: 70.9
  • LT Ty Nsekhe: 70.6
In addition, this article goes on to discuss 3 other 2022 veterans Ram Ol'ers. Matt Skura appears in the negative area in this article.....however Skura was never known for playing LG, much more of a center skilled OL'er.

Skura and Kolone were thrust into action after the Rams’ primary linemen went down, allowing 13 pressures each on the interior. Evans really had a tough season, allowing 24 pressures in just nine games on 203 pass-blocking snaps.
  • G Matt Skura: 48.3
  • OL Jeremiah Kolone: 36.1
  • OL Bobby Evans: 29.8
Well there you have it Bonify’d.

Makes it real simple. Keep Nesekhe to play LT/RT.

Rams have Allen & Shelton at Center. The Rams have a couple young players & veterans that should be alright ? I always say let the draft come to you?

Last season it was Bruss & the hope has to be he can be a solid O’Lineman.Arcuri should improve & Brewer(Anchrum) is a BIG question mark.
 

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Well there you have it Bonify’d.

Makes it real simple. Keep Nesekhe to play LT/RT.

Rams have Allen & Shelton at Center. The Rams have a couple young players & veterans that should be alright ? I always say let the draft come to you?

Last season it was Bruss & the hope has to be he can be a solid O’Lineman.Arcuri should improve & Brewer(Anchrum) is a BIG question mark.
Signing up veteran OL'er Ty Nsekhe does look like a big simple element/part of bringing the OL unit back on the road for improvement. Being a veteran who can start @ LT/ RT & LG along with being forced to primarily bring in young cheap draftees due to serious cap issues.

Said it earlier in another post if Ty Nsekhe can put in this solid type of performance when he is starting in an OL with the likes of Kolone, Skura, Evans & Aboushi how would do if he was playing with Shelton, Havenstien, Arcuri & the other four injured OL'ers Noteboom, Jackson, Bruss & Anchrum, plus the potential skilled drafted rookie OL'ers.
 

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Below is a Ram article that speaks about the positive contribution of veteran backup LT Ty Nsekhe who we have been posting about:

Nsekhe helped replace Joe Noteboom and Alaric Jackson after they went down with injuries, allowing just eight pressures in 10 games.
  • WR Cooper Kupp: 86.3
  • RB Cam Akers: 80.7
  • RT Rob Havenstein: 73.2
  • WR Tutu Atwell: 70.9
  • LT Ty Nsekhe: 70.6
In addition, this article goes on to discuss 3 other 2022 veterans Ram Ol'ers. Matt Skura appears in the negative area in this article.....however Skura was never known for playing LG, much more of a center skilled OL'er.

Skura and Kolone were thrust into action after the Rams’ primary linemen went down, allowing 13 pressures each on the interior. Evans really had a tough season, allowing 24 pressures in just nine games on 203 pass-blocking snaps.
  • G Matt Skura: 48.3
  • OL Jeremiah Kolone: 36.1
  • OL Bobby Evans: 29.8

Well there you have it Bonify’d.

Makes it real simple. Keep Nesekhe to play LT/RT.

Rams have Allen & Shelton at Center. The Rams have a couple young players & veterans that should be alright ? I always say let the draft come to you?

Last season it was Bruss & the hope has to be he can be a solid O’Lineman.Arcuri should improve & Brewer(Anchrum) is a BIG question mark.
Here's a wild thought;
They could convert Bruss into a center. He's already a guard.

But draft a center guard, if he is there in the third round, that you think can develop out.

I think we're deeper than we think we are if we get a few breaks with Jackson's health the few more players develop.

I'm starting to get that creeping feeling again that Snead might not draft many offensive lineman early.

I guess it would depend on who is there to help our pass rush in the draft.
 

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Here's a wild thought;
They could convert Bruss into a center. He's already a guard.

But draft a center guard, if he is there in the third round, that you think can develop out.

I think we're deeper than we think we are if we get a few breaks with Jackson's health the few more players develop.

I'm starting to get that creeping feeling again that Snead might not draft many offensive lineman early.

I guess it would depend on who is there to help our pass rush in the draft.
I like the idea of utilizing the 2023 3rd rd'er for an OC/OG skilled OL'er.:thumbsup1:

"A few breaks" IMO would be:

#1-Alaric Jackson being cleared to play in 2023 & planned to start him @ LG.
#2-Joe Noteboom is on track to come off PUP by the bye.
#3-Snead is able to sign veteran Ty Nsekhe to a 2 yr contract with the plan to start him @ LT next to Jackson & when Noteboom returns fill the left side reserve for the LT/LG position.
#4-Snead is able to sign veteran Matt Skura as a Reserve Center behind starter Coleman Shelton.
#5- Both Logan Bruss & Tremayne Anchrum are cleared/healthy enough to fight for the starting RG post with the loser being the Reserve Swing OG.

Snead is able to use Brian Allen as trade fodder either during the draft or before the regular season begins with a 2023 Cap Savings of $5.42 million utilized to sign Nsekhe & Skura.

Projected 2023 OL
RT-Havenstein/ Arcuri/ Pircher
RG-Bruss/ Rookie 3rd rder
OC-Shelton/ Skura
LG-Jackson/ Anchrum
LT-Nsekhe/ Thomas/ Noteboom
 

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I like the idea of utilizing the 2023 3rd rd'er for an OC/OG skilled OL'er.:thumbsup1:

"A few breaks" IMO would be:

#1-Alaric Jackson being cleared to play in 2023 & planned to start him @ LG.
#2-Joe Noteboom is on track to come off PUP by the bye.
#3-Snead is able to sign veteran Ty Nsekhe to a 2 yr contract with the plan to start him @ LT next to Jackson & when Noteboom returns fill the left side reserve for the LT/LG position.
#4-Snead is able to sign veteran Matt Skura as a Reserve Center behind starter Coleman Shelton.
#5- Both Logan Bruss & Tremayne Anchrum are cleared/healthy enough to fight for the starting RG post with the loser being the Reserve Swing OG.

Snead is able to use Brian Allen as trade fodder either during the draft or before the regular season begins with a 2023 Cap Savings of $5.42 million utilized to sign Nsekhe & Skura.

Projected 2023 OL
RT-Havenstein/ Arcuri/ Pircher
RG-Bruss/ Rookie 3rd rder
OC-Shelton/ Skura
LG-Jackson/ Anchrum
LT-Nsekhe/ Thomas/ Noteboom
Looks pretty good but I’d feel better with a solid FA added to the IOL. Spitballing here but someone like Dalton Risner or Nate Davis. Not sure we can count on Anchrum or Jackson just yet.
 

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Bruss is a wild card here. He basically red shirted his rookie season and didn’t see much action vs legit nfl pros because he got hurt so early.

It’s dicey to figure him in too deep with the ‘23 plans. We still have no idea where he will be in his development. He’s on the roster. Anything the Rams get from him will be gravy. We all saw how Nsehke and Skura played in real games. Currently, I have more confidence in them than Bruss.
 

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I like the idea of utilizing the 2023 3rd rd'er for an OC/OG skilled OL'er.:thumbsup1:

"A few breaks" IMO would be:

#1-Alaric Jackson being cleared to play in 2023 & planned to start him @ LG.
#2-Joe Noteboom is on track to come off PUP by the bye.
#3-Snead is able to sign veteran Ty Nsekhe to a 2 yr contract with the plan to start him @ LT next to Jackson & when Noteboom returns fill the left side reserve for the LT/LG position.
#4-Snead is able to sign veteran Matt Skura as a Reserve Center behind starter Coleman Shelton.
#5- Both Logan Bruss & Tremayne Anchrum are cleared/healthy enough to fight for the starting RG post with the loser being the Reserve Swing OG.

Snead is able to use Brian Allen as trade fodder either during the draft or before the regular season begins with a 2023 Cap Savings of $5.42 million utilized to sign Nsekhe & Skura.

Projected 2023 OL
RT-Havenstein/ Arcuri/ Pircher
RG-Bruss/ Rookie 3rd rder
OC-Shelton/ Skura
LG-Jackson/ Anchrum
LT-Nsekhe/ Thomas/ Noteboom
I definitely agree other than we've never seen Noteboom stay healthy for very long or look decent at any other position other than left tackle.
And then there's the price.

I definitely see Shelton as an upgrade at Center, particularly in the run game.
Skura would be the perfect off the bench game day active because he can play so many different positions successfully and again brings that vet attitude that the other players are already confident in.

I noticed that you didn't include Oday Aboushi in our plans.
He did seem to underperform and vet minimum for him could be pretty expensive.

I was actually impressed with Nsheke's first go round with the Rams based on coaches comments but was surprised he was still around.

He and Alaric should be solid at left tackle.
 

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Concerning Bruss;
It was not a total lost year for him in that he now does not have the rookie jitters, he's been in the weight room, he's been in the offensive line meetings and he knows the snap count.

All of those things could have contributed to him being injured.

We also have him relatively cheap and for three more years to see how he develops out.

I see him as a plus.
 

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Concerning Bruss;
It was not a total lost year for him in that he now does not have the rookie jitters, he's been in the weight room, he's been in the offensive line meetings and he knows the snap count.

All of those things could have contributed to him being injured.

We also have him relatively cheap and for three more years to see how he develops out.

I see him as a plus.
But we don’t know if he have another Denny, Evans or Saffold in him just yet. I’d like to see the Rams add a known starting caliber FA to the IOL corp.