Le'Veon Bell expected to sign with New York Jets

[LesBaker]

Didn't work that way for him with the Jets

 

[MadGoat]

Bell was already butt hurt by the Steelers initial offer.

It was too late by the time a final offer was made at zero hour. He was not going to play for the Rooney’s.

Funny though that he’s a Jet now, where RB’s go to wither away.

I was going to bring up Curtis Martin, but that's been 20 years already. I'm getting so old my relevant examples are from two decades ago...

 

[LesBaker]

@flv no matter how you slice it the Jets contract is inferior to the Steelers offer that he walked away from.

 

[Mackeyser]

@flv no matter how you slice it the Jets contract is inferior to the Steelers offer that he walked away from.

I'm not sure why anyone cares if he took less money.

a) it was risk management. it was very unlikely that he was going to overall surpass the numbers had he played healthy throughout that last contract offer.

b) that first contract offer was insulting and it showed that Steelers ownership sees loyalty as a one way street. That contract had more off-ramps than an LA freeway.

c) The Steelers other than for Big Ben have made it clear for years that they aren't willing to commit to stars, won't do big contracts with big lock ins and are more protective of their cap than their players.

d) so what if he took less? I've left jobs or didn't take jobs, one of them a 7+ figure/yr job because the job wasn't okay by me.

If we're going to celebrate WHY people come to the Rams now with McVay, Snead, Demoff, etc, then the lack of those things have to be valid reasons why someone wouldn't STAY with a team.

The Steelers seemed to want to emulate the Pats, but they don't have the same org, don't have Belichick or Brady it all comes off as them being cheap and not committed to players.

Fowler took less to stay another year with the Rams. Seems reasonable that a player would take less overall to play someplace he would be happy.

Bortles is coming in tomorrow. Does anyone think he couldn't get a decent starter salary level of contract for 3 years with Miami who has two guys who can barely run the PS right now???

As @flv pointed out, he mis-timed his holding out, but the Steelers were super cynical about it. They figured we can get all the best years basically on his rookie contract. They also showed the league that they weren't willing to trade a player who clearly didn't want to be there. Figure it, does ANYONE think the 9ers or some other team wouldn't have done at least a 2nd or maybe a first with some comeback last season prior to the draft? Dude was getting like 400+ touches a year. That's a LOT.

It's one thing to say and understand that the NFL is a business, first, last and always. The Rams are showing that it can be a win-win symbiotic relationship. The Steelers are very much not in that place and it's no wonder that other than Ben, their stars are fleeing...which I find amazing because I still have not forgotten that the Rooneys were so disgusted by Ben's sexual assault situation that they offered him to the Rams for a 3rd round pick and they'd planned to trade up for Bradford. Now, Ben is the "leader", he's the guy and everyone else can pretend that Steelers are the Pats of West PA.

They ain't.

I think James Connor (the rookie RB) did an excellent job in a tough situation, but if he keeps up his production, they'll do the same to him with a contract that's basically year by year and presuming he can play on the FT 3 freaking years in a row because RB contracts are so reduced, then he'll be too old to get a big second contract and even if he's a top RB, he's gonna be on the outside looking in.

Lastly, I don't care how reporters see it. I really don't. Unless someone has played at that elite level in the NFL, they don't know. Veteran players know. It's telling that the Steelers haven't signed anyone, but the exodus has been significant.

Again, we're seeing the opposite happen in Pitt as is happening in LA.

Also, if ANYONE thinks Pitt would have given AD the contract we gave him, they're cracked. Even as a home town kid and 2 time DPOY. No way they do it.

If anything, it shows that if you're a skill player, you DO NOT want to be drafted in the 1st round by the Steelers.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to Cleveland shitstomping the Steelers in Pittsburgh. They're just not a good org anymore.

 

[LesBaker]

He is on record saying that he was worth more than the Steelers offered and that he was looking for a deal that was about 17MIL a year. He also said he should make more than any RB because he is a multiple use weapon. So it absolutely was about maximizing his $$$.

Sitting out hurt him, and in retrospect I'm sure he regrets it because had he played and then hit the open market he would have had several teams trying to sign him. Proving that he was a malcontent and turning down the largest offer ever made to a RB did not work in his favor.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Some of you guys who are denying the facts and the numbers are cracking me up

The irony in this statement is delicious.

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[LesBaker]

The irony in this statement is delicious.

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No irony. The details are out.

He signed for less than PITT offered and less guaranteed money.

 

[kurtfaulk]

No irony. The details are out.

He signed for less than PITT offered and less guaranteed money.

Less fairytale guaranteed money but much more real guaranteed money.

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[LesBaker]

Less fairytale guaranteed money but much more real guaranteed money.

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It was not fairytale money it was REAL money.

He thought he could get more.

He was wrong.

 

[dieterbrock]

Less fairytale guaranteed money but much more real guaranteed money.

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[kurtfaulk]

It was not fairytale money it was REAL money.

He thought he could get more.

He was wrong.

That's simply not true. You can say it as many times as you like but it doesn't make it true.

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[LesBaker]

That's simply not true. You can say it as many times as you like but it doesn't make it true.

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Prove it isn't with contract details then.

That's what I have done.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Prove it isn't with contract details then.

That's what I have done.

Now read this slowly.


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1019324630425915394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-33212435392742458145.ampproject.net%2F1903141753530%2Fframe.html


Bell wasn't interested in rolling guarantees, he wanted fully guaranteed money.

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[Mackeyser]

Ya know Les, as someone who considers himself a bit of an expert on beating a dead horse, I gotta say, your form has greatly improved.

This is some good dead horse beatin’ right here.

:deadhorse::grouphug:

 

[dieterbrock]

Now read this slowly.


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1019324630425915394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-33212435392742458145.ampproject.net%2F1903141753530%2Fframe.html


Bell wasn't interested in rolling guarantees, he wanted fully guaranteed money.

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His signing bonus was guaranteed 10mill.
But if you read more you’ll find out that his base salary was too.
Between signing bonus and base he was guaranteed 20 mill. And if not cut by day 1 of his 2nd year, he was guaranteed another 13 mill.

 

[LesBaker]

Bell wasn't interested in rolling guarantees, he wanted fully guaranteed money.

The 33MIL was guaranteed. And the 45MIL over 3 years was too.

You seem to think that only the signing bonus was the guaranteed money.

Read the tweet you posted.

 

[Ken]

Bell thought he could probably get more than he did. But it's not always about the money. I'm on Bell's side on this. I think he did the right thing. I might have done the same if I was a stud dual threat NFL running back having to play for the Steelers. Fuck the Steelers.

 

[LesBaker]

Bell thought he could probably get more than he did. But it's not always about the money. I'm on Bell's side on this. I think he did the right thing. I might have done the same if I was a stud dual threat NFL running back having to play for the Steelers. freak the Steelers.

He was talking about "setting the market" and wanted a bigger deal than what Gurley got. His asking price was 17MIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm wondering why you say he did the right thing when he didn't get paid last year and got less than what he could have?