LA Rams Study: Former Florida WR Van Jefferson creating MAJOR BUZZ!!

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Merlin

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Or we trade him to another team for a couple of high/mid draft picks.
I would not rule that out. And as much as I love Woody as the hometown kid and all he deserves to be paid. So yeah I could see the Rams "take care of him" by flipping him to another team that is willing to rework his deal. And hopefully in the AFC.

It depends on how much a contract rework means to him too btw. Behind the scenes how pissed is he about it? If he wants to be paid more that badly then I think the trade option starts to present itself.

All that aside... If I'm the GM there is no way I'd move him now unless I think he's gonna make a big stink. And there's no way I'd pay him more. I'd have him play out this season and if he's upset enough then you move him in trade after this season.
 

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I would not rule that out. And as much as I love Woody as the hometown kid and all he deserves to be paid. So yeah I could see the Rams "take care of him" by flipping him to another team that is willing to rework his deal. And hopefully in the AFC.

It depends on how much a contract rework means to him too btw. Behind the scenes how pissed is he about it? If he wants to be paid more that badly then I think the trade option starts to present itself.

All that aside... If I'm the GM there is no way I'd move him now unless I think he's gonna make a big stink. And there's no way I'd pay him more. I'd have him play out this season and if he's upset enough then you move him in trade after this season.

woods doesn't strike me as the kind of person that would be that way.

he's the type that plays his arse off and the rewards will come off that, either by another extension with the rams or via a trade if the rams decide they want to go in a different direction next season.

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woods doesn't strike me as the kind of person that would be that way.

he's the type that plays his arse off and the rewards will come off that, either by another extension with the rams or via a trade if the rams decide they want to go in a different direction next season.

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That's my take on him too. But this is why I say "if." You never know with players and he might have some things going on where the extra money he feels he should be earning is more important to him.
 

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Honestly I think we drafted JJ’s replacement and McVay will keep his WR’s.
We do tend to let the safeties walk when they are due a large contract. It works out well since the staff is good at finding new ones in the 3rd and 4th rounds.
 

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That's my take on him too. But this is why I say "if." You never know with players and he might have some things going on where the extra money he feels he should be earning is more important to him.
Woods is great....he has matured a ton since coming here from Buffalo. He was very hyped coming out of USC but didn't deliver anything close to his potential. Getting traded to then a fledling Rams team was almost like the Bills just happy someone took him off their hands. He showed what getting a second chance really can do for a very, very talented player. IMO, there are a ton of guys like him that think their talent will get them over the hump at this level. Well, they get exposed really quickly....as I think Woods did. He used coming home, to his house, as motivation to show the rest of the league how good he really is. Love that soooo much. He will get his due, in fact he is paid pretty well considering his stats at the time of his re-signing.

Let the math geniuses figure it out on how we can keep as much of our core talent together.....as truly daunting a task that is and will be and hopefully we all are happy in the long term.
 

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That's my take on him too. But this is why I say "if." You never know with players and he might have some things going on where the extra money he feels he should be earning is more important to him.

i think the upcoming offseason something has to happen, if it will. either he gets extended or traded.

if the salary cap goes down by a big chunk woods might be happy to play out his contract and try again after that. you never know.

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Woods is great....he has matured a ton since coming here from Buffalo. He was very hyped coming out of USC but didn't deliver anything close to his potential. Getting traded to then a fledling Rams team was almost like the Bills just happy someone took him off their hands. He showed what getting a second chance really can do for a very, very talented player. IMO, there are a ton of guys like him that think their talent will get them over the hump at this level. Well, they get exposed really quickly....as I think Woods did. He used coming home, to his house, as motivation to show the rest of the league how good he really is. Love that soooo much. He will get his due, in fact he is paid pretty well considering his stats at the time of his re-signing.

Let the math geniuses figure it out on how we can keep as much of our core talent together.....as truly daunting a task that is and will be and hopefully we all are happy in the long term.
I think his problem in Buffalo was more being overshadowed by Sammy Watkins and being hindered by bad QB play. When he came here, even with Watkins still in the picture, the offense was built to spread the ball more and he got the chances he always deserved. I would disagree with the assertion that he failed to deliver for a personal reason or was arrogant enough to think he already had what it takes or whatever. I mean, obviously I don't know him and I didn't watch all that much Buffalo ball so I'm willing to be wrong.
 

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How about keeping Woods and eventually transition him to the current Larry Fitz role? I'm sure he could do damage as veteran slot receiver in his 30s.

Edit: I don't mean immediately, but hopefully down the road with a team friendly deal.
 

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I can't imagine the Rams trading Woods next year. They could let him run to free agency after next year if they can't resign him and chose to go with Kupp. I don't see how they can keep both Kupp and Woods. KD would have to pull off a miracle to keep both. I guess anything is possible if the Rams get an offer they can't refuse.
 

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I wish one of our players would take a team friendly deal to stay in LA with Sean Mcvay and the Rams. They would help the team and themselves by making a bigger opportunity to win championships.

Don't these players want to be known for something more than being a contender with Rams for 4 years then being shipped to teams like the Dolphins, Jets or Bengals and fading into irrelevancy?

I know they want to get paid but even if they only make $20-25 million in a career that's more than they would've made working anywhere outside of the NFL. Plus the endorsements and they could work in commentary after retirement.

I would think they would take the lesser amount of money and have the opportunity to have money plus go down in history rather than make more money and fizzle out after a 6 year career.
 

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Woods has one solid contract left in him age-wise. He's only 28 so a 3-year extension deal wouldn't be out of line. He's not a FA until 2022 and he's not grossly underpaid in that last year. That means they can offer him a 3 year deal in the $36-$38M range starting in 2022. Remember they actually gave him a raise starting a few years ago. Woods isn't a bank breaker and in 2022 I would expect things would be back to normal in terms of the cap. I don't see Woody wanting to leave just to make a few bucks more. He's in a great environment on a winning franchise. I think he would want to finish his career here in LA where he first made his name in college and again in the NFL.

If they are going to trade anyone it should be Havenstein and Troy Hill which will clear a lot of cap. I don't see them getting any significant compensatory pick for either. They should be on the phone to the Chargers who could use a DB like Hill because they a lot of zone defense. Their o-line is a mess and believe it or not Havenstein would be a huge upgrade for them.

The Chargers have 2 third round picks next year I believe. Imagine what Snead could do with that? This team is essentially built. The Rams have no need for first round picks. Snead is now drafting not for the current year but for expected losses in the following year. For players like that he only needs picks in rounds 2-5 with true developmental players in 6 & 7.

In this draft, I only see Sloman not making the roster. But I can see them keeping him on the PS. I know it may seem strange but the minute I saw they signed Lirim to contend for PK I knew they had a true game-changer. With Lirim they won't be losing game because of a missed makeable kick. His 50 yd kick in the scrimmage was nailed. With him anytime they cross the 50 yd line they are in scoring range. When you play on a 50 yd field you have a huge advantage offensively.
 

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I think his problem in Buffalo was more being overshadowed by Sammy Watkins and being hindered by bad QB play. When he came here, even with Watkins still in the picture, the offense was built to spread the ball more and he got the chances he always deserved. I would disagree with the assertion that he failed to deliver for a personal reason or was arrogant enough to think he already had what it takes or whatever. I mean, obviously I don't know him and I didn't watch all that much Buffalo ball so I'm willing to be wrong.
Yeah, I can agree with the take on Watkins being the #1, but I thought I had read something back in the day that he was having a tough time with the transition to the NFL....kinda like Agholor. Didn't think through my initial comment well enough. But....the Rams have truly benefitted from his play making ability, consistency and maturity. Hope Van takes good notes on Woods and Kupp....consummate professionals. From the comments from camp so far, Van looks like the next great thing for our WR corps so I'm stoked on seeing him blossom as well.
 

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Ramsey has been a dominant force in camp, as expected. But even he has difficulty in covering rookie Jefferson who is more than holding his own against one of the top CBs in the NFL. You can imagine how Jefferson playing in the slot against a #3 CB will be a huge mismatch the Rams favor. After this performance, there is no way Reynolds is the #3 WR which will give the Rams probably the best trio of WRs in the NFL. Reynolds is improved but IMO not enough to beat out Jefferson, and his drops are a major concern and will ultimately doom his chances next year considering the depth the Rams have behind the #4 WR spot.

Reynolds is in the final year of his rookie contract. He's good enough not to last long as a FA WR and to start as a Y & Z WR on a lot of teams. Right now he's affordable depth during a year where COVID requires depth at all skill positions. IMO if Reynolds signs elsewhere next year it won't impact the Rams and it could give them a mid to late round compensatory pick. Bottom line is if a WR is still playing with inconsistent technique and still dropping passes, it's a legitimate concern and IMO time to move on especially when you have Webster, Edwards and JJ Koski behind him. If the Rams keep 6 WRs on the roster then the question is do you release Reynolds or try to trade him? This would allow them to keep the aforementioned rookies on the active roster without exposing them to waivers. Webster has built on a strong showing last year and looks to be a better option overall at #4 WR than Reynolds. Now add in Winston to the mix with a good resume with big reliable hands who can also play as a returner. The Rams have 4 WRs with better potential and most of all better positional flexibility than Reynolds so I think the handwriting is on the wall if not this year than certainly for next year.

Snead is known for bold moves so unless he thinks they can get a compensatory pick in 2022 for Reynolds he might be better served by perhaps carrying 7 WRs this year and releasing Reynolds if they can't trade him. I think there would be a market for Reynolds for a 4th round pick (the round he was picked in) which is likely to be higher than a compensatory. That is not a high price for a #3 or even #2 WR on some teams.
 

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Seriously though, this was my favorite pick of the draft

it wasn't mine untill i saw some one on one drills at the senior bowl. he left dbs completly lost as to how to cover him been a hugh fan every since.i predict he is starter bye mid season or sooner if no injurys
 

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I said it when he was drafted and everything I've seen simply reinforces the fact Jefferson is the Ram's #3. Although Reynolds has improved I think it's too little too late. He's #4 and IMO it will have a lot to do with Reynolds continuing to drop passes.


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From what I've heard it wasn't his only drop. By trying to basket catch the ball instead of turning and catching with his hands he allowed Jalen to knock his arm down. IMO poor technique by Reynolds when he had Jalen beat and he's got the length advantage. If he turned and Ramsey runs into him as he probably would have gotten a clear PI. Four years and he's still playing like this.

Yep... That's the diff between a Mike Evans and a guy like Reynolds.