Kiper’s top draft “misses”. Yours?

[TexasRam]

My list of failures is about as long as my list of successes. To name a few: Tavon Austin, Sam Bradford, Connor Cook, Trent Richardson, Jameis Winston, Robert Griffin III, Scooby Wright, Barrett Jones, etc.

Yeah but you did Nail the Donald, Kupp and Goff picks! It's fun reading you and the others here break down our future players leading up to draft day. Keep up the good work!

 

[Ramstien]

Has everyone forgot about Greg Robinson? Talk about a major disappointment, he sucked!

 

[iamme33]

talk about half right I liked both the greg Robison and arron Donald picks. wow! talk about right and wrong in the same draft.

 

[Angry Ram]

Has everyone forgot about Greg Robinson? Talk about a major disappointment, he sucked!

To be fair, all these misses were hyped as "can't miss" picks. The Jimmy Clausen thing stands out because Mel Kiper and the other orange were screaming every round about him dropping.

Like remember Aaron Curry? I really wanted him over Jason Smith and was so mad the Rams passed and the shitbirds got him. Turns out it wouldn't have made a difference.

Remember the Glenn Dorsey hype? He was the next Warren Sapp. lol.

Over the past decade or so of watching the draft I've slowly realized how overhyped and overrated draft picks can be, leading to disappointment more times than not. Not that I don't watch or follow it, I do just to see who teams pick, I just stopped caring about as religiously as I used to.

To me, it's just another tool to build a roster.

 

[fearsomefour]

I was desperate for the Rams to draft Trent Dilfer.
Had it all.
I was excited for and loved the Brian Quick pick.
Everyone, including me, was wrong about Jimmy Kennedy.

 

[Zaphod]

I've never been one to get overly committed one way or another about who they select, especially when it comes to tempering my own expectations, as through the years I've often been surprised. Like in the case of Donald, I was kind of surprised that they did pick him, and not in a negative way.

I was disappointed the Robinson pick, but I just figured that thew knew what they were doing. That said, I would have rather seen them spending a pick on the offensive line once a year to keep the overall level of competition high, as our current management team does, rather than being forced to reach on a pick in the first round that could turn out to be disastrous.

I was super nervous about a Fisher led team selecting a quarterback without having the offensive line or receiver problem solved, but I wouldn't have expected any coach to turn that all around in one year as McVay did, so what do I know? Then again, are we proving that McVay's philosophy is unsustainable?

I know that every management team is going to have their own philosophy, like picking offensive tackles later as an effort at efficiency with the idea that those who don't work out well can play at guard, but obviously you have to diversify that effect enough that you don't see someone like Noteboom struggle at the guard position.

In the end, I just try to enjoy the players they pick or sign, and no longer vex myself with apparent contradictions between player acquisition and system fit, or system/coach changes that turn personnel decisions upside down for that matter

 

[BonifayRam]

Snead has made sure that he will not be married to anymore GRob first round type disasters any longer.....Snead just gets rid of first round selections & a lot of 2nd round selections as well.

Snead appears to have a great desire to take Day 1 of the NFL draft off every year. Poor McVay will have to wait a long time to experience the Day 1 of the draft as a HC. That part of his resume is empty & yet to be written.

 

[Loyal]

Kiper will always have my respect. Not an easy thing to be one of the guys who pioneer draft analysis, especially stacking a board yourself without the resources teams have. Him and Buchsbaum both for that matter.

Yeah he missed some. Haven't we all?

I remember when I was wrong once...then found out I was wrong about that...

 

[PhillyRam]

I remember wanting the Rams to draft Ted Ginn.

He went right before they picked Carriker.

Granted he was better than Carriker, but I drooled over is college highlights, but was mostly a JAG in the NFL.

 

[Ram_Rally]

I was a big fan of Trent Richardson and Matt Khalil. And TAVON AUSTIN

 

[TheTackle]

I thought Matt Elam was going to be star, but he is now considered the Ravens biggest draft bust. He had the talent but not the attitude

He would have been my second pick if he was there at the end of the 1st. I argued with a few here that A Hopkins would be a pro bowl (no1) WR and that the Rams were perfectly placed to draft him even if they traded down, provided they picked before the Texans. If not Elam, I wanted Travis Fredericks. We traded up for Tavon in one of the worst moves in modern franchise history

 

[So Ram]

Yeah but you did Nail the Donald, Kupp and Goff picks! It's fun reading you and the others here break down our future players leading up to draft day. Keep up the good work!

Nice Scooby Wright. He got hurt & never had the speed. He was a ruby player that would be all over the field.
Was just a hustle guy with a big heart.
Sometimes players peak early & don’t have the pedigree.
Connor Cooks I liked,but players like that I circle for late 3rd or 4th rd picks.
Clauses & that LSU QB like 6 to 7 years ago.
I liked Tavon,but to trade up for a smallish WR was a joke.Really pissed off about that. Joyner was another guy I was made Snisher traded up for.

 

[FrantikRam]

Tavon
Sammy Watkins
Vernon Gholston

I'm pretty hesitant when it comes to college players. I don't champion many players because for me, if they get drafted, 99% of the time they're good enough to play in the NFL. I think coaches and other players should share in the term "bust" - for example, if the Browns had kept their pick and drafted Carson Wentz, I'm fairly certain he wouldn't be nearly as good, on top of the injury issues, and people would say he's a "bust". I think there are a few players who will be great anywhere (the obvious ones), and a few that truly should not have been drafted at all. But I think most other players fall somewhere inbetween.

I guaranteed that Reggie Bush would be a bust - probably my biggest instance of being correct about a player.

 

[So Ram]

Snead has made sure that he will not be married to anymore GRob first round type disasters any longer.....Snead just gets rid of first round selections & a lot of 2nd round selections as well.

Snead appears to have a great desire to take Day 1 of the NFL draft off every year. Poor McVay will have to wait a long time to experience the Day 1 of the draft as a HC. That part of his resume is empty & yet to be written.

I would trade up into 1st rd to get Johnathan Taylor. Snisher took Gurley at 10. Just what I thought. Freaking Demoff & LES Snead. Gurley was a Ram only 5 seasons. So my point is getting that 5th is worth it in this case.
(F~~K) Gurley should have been a FA.The Rams could have Franchised him if needed?? Would have had a 5th option on him as well. WTF were they thinking ???
Makes me even more upset now!! Wow-doesn’t make sense. I posted about Demoff because of his contracts mainly.Could complain about a lot more,but mind boggling.
I still like Johnathan Taylor at RB & getting a 5th year. He could slip into the 2nd rd ?? Still I think he is a solid every down back.

 

[So Ram]

Drank a bunch of Natural Lights. Can’t recall how I did it ?? All I know is I wanted The Rams to draft Desean Jackson. I think it was like pick 21 I went beer per pick until he was drafted or The Rams pick.
D.Jackson went 49th.

I wanted The Rams to trade SJ39 to Dallas for #22 & #25

I also wanted The Rams to draft Matt Ryan instead of Chris Long @2. The Mike Vick thing went down & Atlanta needed a QB. There was no way you would go wrong with Matt Ryan.Long was a twiner. Arthur Blank played like he would not trade up,I think The Rams should have called his bluff!!

Anyway that was my thinking in 2008.Thought it was a good time to rebuild.

 

[So Ram]

2006 - I thought draft Jay Cutler at 11.
Was always big on QB’s. That was why I wanted Matt Ryan in 2008.

Nagata (went 12)was also a DT The Rams needed.Traded the #11 with Denver for #15,#68.

Rams draft Tye Hill & Claude Wrotten

Withworth went #55 from LSU as well as Wrotten.

The year of the Flopenstein at#46.
I was a Maurice Jones Drew fan.That said in 2020 there is Coleman who has excellent 3rd value.

Ashton Youboty from Ohio st., could have been had late 2nd as well. Not sure of his career. There are always player to circle late.
Like how great McSnead did in 2017 with Copper Kupp,JJ, Everett. I liked the trade back & Everett pick. The other guy I liked if The Rams could not get the top 3 TE’s was Kittle. Never have seen such a GREAT 40. He was just as strong at 50 with power.

 

[Loyal]

Let me say that despite my near record of perfection, I MAY have been mistaken about Greg Robinson. The Snead/Fisher combination waa about finding athletic freaks like Brian Quick and Robinson. We could have had Taylor Lewan, Jake Matthews, or Greg Robinson. He supposedly had it all athletically, but we didn't know how stupid he was/is. I was so excited about him that I even mentioned Hall of Fame potential.....

 

[So Ram]

I was a big fan of Trent Richardson and Matt Khalil. And TAVON AUSTIN

I was a Matt Khalil fan. Whhat a trade by Les Snead made for the #2 pick. Should have been a lessen not to take Greg Robinson #2. The GIFT that kept giving. Wanted to trade with Atlanta,but Buffalo trade would have worked. A first the next season plus maybe a little sprinkles.
Talk about an excellent WR & tackle group.

 

[Reddog99]

Bradford, Tavon Austin and Zac Stacy all had my hopes up. Pretty much clinging onto any bit of hope those days.

 

[So Ram]

Let me say that despite my near record of perfection, I MAY have been mistaken about Greg Robinson. The Snead/Fisher combination waa about finding athletic freaks like Brian Quick and Robinson. We could have had Taylor Lewan, Jake Matthews, or Greg Robinson. He supposedly had it all athletically, but we didn't know how stupid he was/is. I was so excited about him that I even mentioned Hall of Fame potential.....

It was a free GIFT !! All those draft picks & to get The NUMBER 2 pick in the draft. Why not just trade back & keep that thing alive for ever.

What FISHER did at Washington was DISGUSTING!!! Bringing all the players as team Captains. Then with that Case Keenan concussion not letting the trainer(Reggie) go out there because he was afraid of Fishers Yeah reaction
was GROSS!!