Just reminding everyone that Goff is better than Wentz in nearly every statistical category

[kurtfaulk]

lol. Somehow I knew somebody would go diving into the stats until they found something they could argue with. Believe whatever you want I guess, but the only "deciphering" I'll be getting out of this thread is that I can expect plenty of Rams fans to continue cherry-picking stats to convince themselves that Goff is somehow on the same level that Wentz is this year, when everyone outside of Rams fans knows that it simply isn't true. There's a reason that Wentz is neck-and-neck with Brady for the MVP this year while Goff isn't. But if passer rating stats cherry-picked from the schedule make some of y'all feel better about that, then have at it I guess.

what the fuck is your problem?

we don't need to make ourselves feel better about goff. 99% of us are ecstatic he is the rams qb.

you must be part of the 1% still yearning for wentz. if you like him so much why don't you become an eagles fan so you don't miss a snap of his career.

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[Mackeyser]

I think, and forgive me here, you're confusing arm strength with ability to throw far. Ability to throw far is affected by all those things like ballistic stability, wind, mechanics, etc. Arm strength, as in the strength of the arm, will technically be affected by throwing mechanics as far as a measurement goes. But strictly speaking, arm strength isn't affected by anything but the arm... and it's strength. The distance the ball travels is affected by arm strength and all those other physics things you mentioned.

But the distance the ball travels isn't arm strength. And it isn't a good way to measure arm strength because of all those other factors.

Now to be fair, actual arm strength is less relevant than the distance the ball can travel in evaluating a quarterback. So your point still stands but no, distance traveled by the ball isn't arm strength especially because it's affected by all those other things.

Oh, I agree. That's why I refer to "arm strength" in quotation marks or directly refer to it as a euphemism.

It's really a conflation of metrics that are weighted based on who's saying it, which makes it a virtually meaningless term for the most part.

 

[JK1965]

what the freak is your problem?

we don't need to make ourselves feel better about goff. 99% of us are ecstatic he is the rams qb.

you must be part of the 1% still yearning for wentz. if you like him so much why don't you become an eagles fan so you don't miss a snap of his career.

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As I said earlier, I am an Eagles fan from Philly area.
You should be very happy with Goff as your QB. It’s his first full season and first under a real coach. Look what this guy is doing! I joined this forum because I think the Eagles and Rams are going to have some epic games for years to come. You have to have the QB and it sure looks like both these teams have one.

 

[UKram]

easy problem to fix this yall love wentz so much go be an eagles fan

i love wentz as a player as a person and i wanted him bad before the draft

but we have the cali kid and i couldnt be happier .. i like wentz i want him to succeed ... but i want him to the peyton to Goffs brady

so get out there buy his 11 jersey and go and scream for wentzlyvania ....ill be right here with my rams brethen .. watching the Goffense for the next 10-15 years

 

[JK1965]

easy problem to fix this yall love wentz so much go be an eagles fan

i love wentz as a player as a person and i wanted him bad before the draft

but we have the cali kid and i couldnt be happier .. i like wentz i want him to succeed ... but i want him to the peyton to Goffs brady

so get out there buy his 11 jersey and go and scream for wentzlyvania ....ill be right here with my rams brethen .. watching the Goffense for the next 10-15 years

Didn’t both teams hit the jackpot? Think about it. Look where they were. They get the 1st and 2nd pick in draft. They both go for the top 2 guys by anyone’s estimate except the Browns.
Any coincidence that both teams are now legit contenders?
Again I’m from Phily. You guys should be thrilled with your team and your QB. Goff sure looks like the real deal to me. Why argue about who is better? They are both winners IMO.

 

[…..]

Two young exciting players and one of them is on my favorite team. I don't pay much attention to other teams.

 

[JK1965]

Two young exciting players and one of them is on my favorite team. I don't pay much attention to other teams.

I agree with this. The only reason I’ve paid attention to the Rams is because of Goff and their high power offense. They are much like the Eagles in that they are a lot of fun to watch. There are some boring teams out there. These 2 are the opposite of that. Having the QB is a Huge part of this.
I think the Eagles will help you guys Sunday night. The Rams need to not overlook the Cards. They are one of those teams that can put together a great game.

 

[den-the-coach]

There's more than one way to make something out of nothing. Wentz's way just happens to be the flashier one.

Great point Counselor and taking nothing away from Goff, who has been amazing in his own right. @bubbaramfan represent the numbers correctly with Red Zone efficiently with Wentz having a major edge, however, some (others like yourself knew it beforehand) of us now recognize the gifts Jared Thomas Goff has and all of us cannot wait to party like it's 1999.

 

[Faceplant]

I have watched a bunch of Philly games an Wentz is fantastic. As some have mentioned, he makes sense for Philly the same way Goff makes sense for LA. Almost like it was meant to be. Goff is my boy as long as he is in horns, and I couldn't be happier with how he has progressed thus far. No need to tear down one to pump up another, but that is what us fans tend to do, haha.....meanwhile the players themselves could care less. What I really like is that there is no more talk about how great the Winston / Mariota draft was. Winston is straight up doofy and Mariota is good but is as inconsistent as they come and injury prone it seems.

Goff/Wentz appear to be the real deal fellas. lets enjoy the shit out of it. Keep ballin out boyz!!

 

[UKram]

Didn’t both teams hit the jackpot? Think about it. Look where they were. They get the 1st and 2nd pick in draft. They both go for the top 2 guys by anyone’s estimate except the Browns.
Any coincidence that both teams are now legit contenders?
Again I’m from Phily. You guys should be thrilled with your team and your QB. Goff sure looks like the real deal to me. Why argue about who is better? They are both winners IMO.

its the life of a rams fan ...some always seem to argue for the "other" guy

bulger / warner
Bradford / Suh
Wentz / Goff
fisher/ mcavy .... nope wait not that one

im happy for Wentz
Im estactic we got Goff

 

[1maGoh]

Oh, I agree. That's why I refer to "arm strength" in quotation marks or directly refer to it as a euphemism.

It's really a conflation of metrics that are weighted based on who's saying it, which makes it a virtually meaningless term for the most part.

Word

 

[LACHAMP46]

The broncos defense is not that good this year. They’ve fallen off since Wade left.

Only in points allowed....their yardage allowed shows they are still one of the best out there...It shows, that field positions, and the offense, has put the Denver defense in terrible spots all year....and human nature is, once a unit doesn't believe in another unit...they just let down...

Forgetting that as a fan I personally value a quarterback's mental ability way above athletic ability

You have heard my rant that Wentz studied Mechanical Engineering in college haven't you? 4.0 GPA

So, he's got em both....height, athleticism, and intellect.....Now what?

let's just say that Wentz is far and away the best and always will be, it's not even close. Lets just call him the second coming of Jesus.

Even given those parameters, the financial aspect of keeping a Demi god like Carson Wentz could yet prove to be a deterrent to their long term success.

Ignoring that and the altruistic nature of said Demi-god who ends up working for the good people of Philadelphia for free, lets just pretend that for the sake of argument, a certain time traveller parks his police call box in this very thread to state that all your Super Bowls are belong to Iggles, does that still prevent you from watching the games and enjoying our success?

huh? I thought I had some rants....

If I knew the Eagles would win "x" amount of super bowls, I'd be pissed....and I wouldn't watch any games that they played in....

I'd also bet a load of ROD$$$$$ and some real cheddar as well.

The best overall team will likely win.

meh....last year, Atlanta was the "Best" team....they lost....because of that damn super QB.....

Seattle lost a SB recently.....better team...because of that damn QB.:rant:

Couple years ago....twice....New England LOST two SB's....both times, I'd say they were the BETTER team. Some QB got hot....look back....Flacco....team wasn't better...he was hot, and defense was phenomenal.....too many instances of best team losing one game. Look at my Dodgers....

Defense....hot QB.....can beat a "better" team in football.

 

[LACHAMP46]

The Broncos D has given up the 6th most points among defenses

C'mon Les....still a good D....

The Wentz worship amongst SOME our fellow brethren is borderline intolerable ( personally speaking of course)

You better believe I'm going to remind you ladies of this "further down the road"

:boxing:

We got 9 more days.....tell me what you see....

Like you guys with Goff, I’ve seen every game Wentz has played. He had the benefit of a full rookie season with a good coaching staff. Goff clearly did not have this.
This said, make no mistake Wentz is the real deal. His grasp of the offense, ability to dissect a defense, athletic ability are ridiculous. He has that IT factor that you can’t teach. He has elevated everyone on that team and that’s a rare feat. His work ethic is off the hook. He’s at the complex every morning by 5:30 working. The guy gets better and better because he studies this stuff relentlessly. From grade school through college he was a straight A student and never got a B even once in his life.

Oh shit....enemy in the mists!!!!! Security!!!!

While your assessment is spot on....no one will take it seriously until they see it for themselves.

This is a QB driven league...the team with the BEST QB, always has a chance...in any game...in any weather....in any circumstance.

Good luck vs. the Seahawks....but after that....get ready for the Aaron Donald experience
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damn....how I make my gunner bigger?

 

[Zaphod]

You have heard my rant that Wentz studied Mechanical Engineering in college haven't you? 4.0 GPA

So, he's got em both....height, athleticism, and intellect.....Now what?

huh? I thought I had some rants....

If I knew the Eagles would win "x" amount of super bowls, I'd be ticked....and I wouldn't watch any games that they played in....

I'd also bet a load of ROD$$$$$ and some real cheddar as well.

meh....last year, Atlanta was the "Best" team....they lost....because of that damn super QB.....

I tend to have a different view on scholastic performance as an indicator of a person's ability, to the point that believe that everyone's brain is simply more efficient at different processes (to a degree). It may well be my one optimistic view of the human race

To that point, I'm an engineering type and I can't even pretend that I have the acumen to play in that position even if I did possess the physical skills.

Not that I am trivializing his achievement or GPA in any fashion, that's impressive!

Regarding the rant, you already kind of spoke to it, to that point that you'd be pissed if you knew he'd win x super bowls as an admitted case of hyperbole on my part, but if Wentz is already better to whatever degree that is frustrating to you, what's the point? Lord knows I won't try to change your mind and I wouldn't want to anyway.

I've certainly been hopeful over a different quarterback who couldn't seem to remain healthy to the point that I understand that you really can't predict anything, and that's the only point I was trying to make.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Regarding the rant, you already kind of spoke to it, to that point that you'd be ticked if you knew he'd win x super bowls as an admitted case of hyperbole on my part, but if Wentz is already better to whatever degree that is frustrating to you, what's the point? Lord knows I won't try to change your mind and I wouldn't want to anyway.

I've certainly been hopeful over a different quarterback who couldn't seem to remain healthy to the point that I understand that you really can't predict anything, and that's the only point I was trying to make.

Super pissed....cause we coulda had him....

Ole Sammy B......took a while to get used too....those lil legs...I bet he still has a lil football in him.

 

[jap]

Didn’t both teams hit the jackpot? Think about it. Look where they were. They get the 1st and 2nd pick in draft. They both go for the top 2 guys by anyone’s estimate except the Browns.
Any coincidence that both teams are now legit contenders?
Again I’m from Phily. You guys should be thrilled with your team and your QB. Goff sure looks like the real deal to me. Why argue about who is better? They are both winners IMO.

. . . cause ya can't have a mudslinging, crap tossing, balls-to-the-walls, and utterly meaningless fight :boxing:, er, "discussion" :grouphug: about who is really better until all the statistics have been differentiated, integrated, copulated, and castrated and a true winner emerges---regardless of whether any really important facts or points of relevance was actually considered. Since nothing is gonna get discussed meaningfully here, why not let the two rising field generals fight it out?

Carson: "We're Numero Uno, baby! 10-1 and still counting! Kneel to your god!!!"

Jared: "Not to burst your bubble or anything, Buddy, but you have to face Aaron "The Beast!" Donald and Michael "The Incredible Brock" Brockers on game day soon, and I don't! I see these guys during friendly fire in practice all the time. Why do you think I am so fearless on Sundays? Because I see two wreaking havoc with our OL all the time! No one else in the NFL is more frightening. Let's see how healthy your godhead remains after the game."

 

[Snaz]

Initial ball velocity which you constantly mention IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR.

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I would define arm strength clearly as defined as applying force to the ball.
The Force is mass and acceleration, Once the ball leaves the hand there is no more force (arm strength) being. applied.
So initial ball velocity is perfect for defining arm strength. Assuming the mass of the ball is the same, then the only factor in intial velocity was the force applied to generate the velocity, which is acceleration.

How the player input that force on the ball is mechanics. The angel, arc, spin is all accuracy to me.

So based on physics, he who throws the ball faster, has a stronger arm. See Baseball, whom has the fastest fastball is the one that had the more powerful arm.

Now I know the harder you throw the harder it is to maintain accuracy, so that is an accuracy issue, not arm strength.

I could really hit the ball hard when I played racquetball, but to get that kill shot I had to work on accuracy slow down the power and then as I got better ramp up the power.

Goff clearly has the stronger arm.

Now you can argue all your want about accuracy, touch, spin, catchable balls.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Bert Jones was a running QB, great then SUDDENLY GONE.

Suddenly gone?
Is that how you describe all the old vets we brought in the QB our team?

 

[bluecoconuts]

You have heard my rant that Wentz studied Mechanical Engineering in college haven't you? 4.0 GPA

I haven't, given that Wentz majored in Physical Education with a Psych minor. Also known as the college athlete special. No more impressive than Goff's major in Sociology.

Where do you hear this stuff man?

 

[JK1965]

. . . cause ya can't have a mudslinging, crap tossing, balls-to-the-walls, and utterly meaningless fight :boxing:, er, "discussion" :grouphug: about who is really better until all the statistics have been differentiated, integrated, copulated, and castrated and a true winner emerges---regardless of whether any really important facts or points of relevance was actually considered. Since nothing is gonna get discussed meaningfully here, why not let the two rising field generals fight it out?

Carson: "We're Numero Uno, baby! 10-1 and still counting! Kneel to your god!!!"

Jared: "Not to burst your bubble or anything, Buddy, but you have to face Aaron "The Beast!" Donald and Michael "The Incredible Brock" Brockers on game day soon, and I don't! I see these guys during friendly fire in practice all the time. Why do you think I am so fearless on Sundays? Because I see two wreaking havoc with our OL all the time! No one else in the NFL is more frightening. Let's see how healthy your godhead remains after the game."

Eagles D line no joke. They bring the heat all day. Cox, Graham, Jernigan and Curry.

The game should be great next. Let’s get through this week first. In any case one game won’t define either QB. Neither of these guys has played their best football yet. I’m sure of that.