Scirca
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It's fine to not understand the physics. It's another to continue to make incorrect statements.
Let me be brief.
Initial ball velocity which you constantly mention IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR.
Austin Davis iirc had an initial ball velocity of 60mph. NO ONE is going to use the euphemism of "stronger arm" to describe Davis.
Factors like throwing mechanics, ball rotation and trajectory (especially initial launch angle) are all factors.
When all of the factors are in place... in the same location on the same day throwing identical balls...on their best throws... Wentz would throw it slightly farther in the air. Maybe 2 yards. It's not a huge difference.
The ONLY place where this manifests is on long throws with a lower trajectory and longer throws where they are on the move. And again, the differences are minor.
Moreover, these differences aren't the sole measure of the quality of a QB. Far from it. Rather, it's among the least of them.
I mean Jeff George had a CANNON of an arm...WAY stronger than any of the All-Time greats (except maybe Unitas).
It's fine to not understand the physics. It's another to continue to make incorrect statements.
Let me be brief.
Initial ball velocity which you constantly mention IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR.
Austin Davis iirc had an initial ball velocity of 60mph. NO ONE is going to use the euphemism of "stronger arm" to describe Davis.
Factors like throwing mechanics, ball rotation and trajectory (especially initial launch angle) are all factors.
When all of the factors are in place... in the same location on the same day throwing identical balls...on their best throws... Wentz would throw it slightly farther in the air. Maybe 2 yards. It's not a huge difference.
The ONLY place where this manifests is on long throws with a lower trajectory and longer throws where they are on the move. And again, the differences are minor.
Moreover, these differences aren't the sole measure of the quality of a QB. Far from it. Rather, it's among the least of them.
I mean Jeff George had a CANNON of an arm...WAY stronger than any of the All-Time greats (except maybe Unitas). And he was a coach killer who had a million dollar arm and a nickel head.
If you want to argue for Goff, there are a TON of metrics where his skills really matter... accuracy, touch and deep ball accuracy (his improvement this year alone is staggering) and all of those are better than Wentz.
What doesn't work is using one factor for one metric (Initial ball velocity as the sole determinant of "arm strength") and then extrapolating that into something it isn't.
he was a coach killer who had a million dollar arm and a nickel head.
If you want to argue for Goff, there are a TON of metrics where his skills really matter... accuracy, touch and deep ball accuracy (his improvement this year alone is staggering) and all of those are better than Wentz.
What doesn't work is using one factor for one metric (Initial ball velocity as the sole determinant of "arm strength") and then extrapolating that into something it isn't.
Okay, you're probably right, my physics isn't good enough to dispute that, but when it is, we will debate this properly. However, I do agree with you that when you compare the two, Wentz throws much tighter spirals, which would probably give him that slight edge in the purest form of velocity.