Jets safety Jamal Adams has been traded to the Seattle Seahawks

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Big difference though is that Ramsey was one of many (and current) players who demanded out of Jacksonville over the dysfunction of that management team. The Jets were bending over backwards to please him. Just couldnt give him the contract he wanted. I hate the Jets and laugh at their misfortune, but even I felt bad for them in this situation.

Yeah, Fowler wanted out, Ramsey wanted out, Yannick (cannot for the life of me spell his last name) wants out. Jacksonville is the cancer, not those players.
 

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I have seen just about every game of his pro career, and Adams is not effective in coverage; plus, he takes bad angles in space.

Now when Adams hits someone, they break. He is elite near the line and in blitz packages. He flies all over the field, and can force turnovers.

As I posted previously, I will be curious to see how Seattle uses him. When they had Kam Chancellor, they did not blitz him; and that’s one of Adams strengths.

I couldn't agree more especially the part about waiting to see how they use him and if the Sea Hawks use him in their base they take
away from his strength which is as a blitzing DB. Even a lot of his INT's have been off of bad throws by the QB and not because of his coverage. This is why I've been saying in terms of coverage they are a push. The Rams beat the Hawks by forcing them to play a game they didn't want. They would send 4 sometimes 5 receivers out in patterns. If the o-line holds up and IMO they will considering the Hawks don't have the d-line that they used to it forces the Hawk secondary to either concede the completion or into a close man like coverage. When that happens Adams is basically average if not below average in his ability to play that way. He was supposed to play as a SS in coverage of TEs and RBs and his positioning was always off and he simply couldn't close to defending the pass. If the Rams force Adams to aggressively cover Higbee or Jefferson he's dead meat.

He's not going to elevate the secondary the way people seem to think. You can't compare him to Jalen because as a CB Jalen has an immediate impact on how you play your secondary. You can put him on an island and take away everyone else in patterns. That will buy time for the d-line to get to the QB. Having Jalen and speed with your LBs allows Staley to play his nickel like most teams would play their dime. You pay for elite boundary CBs because of what the impact they have on the secondary. An elite safety is someone the QB is mindful of in his reads but really doesn't change how you attack the defense. It's why it's stupid to pay for Adams as if he were an elite CB. I will take Jalen every time over Adams.

If the Hawks want to maximize Adam's style of play they will need to alter how they play their defense. I question the idea that they will at this late stage of the season, especially with no real offseason programs and limited practices.
 

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Oh one last thing. I would take Rapp over Adams any day all day. Rapp is already a better SS than Adams with a ton of upsides whereas Jamal is all he will be right now. Rapp looks like Eric Weddle when he was young in his style of play. But Rapp actually is better at reading plays now than Weddle was at this stage. We are looking at the development of an elite talent in Rapp.
 

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Making sense of the Seahawks trade for Jamal Adams

After the slowest of slow news offseasons and more rumblings and rumors about where free agent Jadeveon Clowney would or would not sign, the Seattle Seahawks blew the doors off Saturday. The team traded two first round picks, a third round pick and starting safety Bradley McDougald for Jamal Adams and a Day 3 pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When discussing the trade, there is zero doubt about two things. The first is that the Seahawks paid a hefty price, sending three picks and a solid player to the New York Jets. The second is that Adams is a phenomenal player. So, what does the trade say?

That’s a lot of draft picks

Since the trade went down, there has been significant discussion among fans about how the Seahawks won’t be missing out on anything because of the simple fact that the team drafts so poorly early on that giving up two firsts isn’t a big deal. However, the answer to why the team was willing to part with so much draft capital might be far simpler.

When the NFLPA voted to approve the new collective bargaining agreement back in the spring, doing so drastically reduced the amount of practice time during training camp, while also reducing the length of the preseason by a game. In short, drafted players were taking longer to develop under the practice restrictions of the 2011 CBA, and the impact of the 2020 CBA is likely to only further slow that development. Fans across the league have seen how a simple injury, whether an ankle sprain or a tweaked hamstring, can derail a player’s offseason to the point where their rookie year is largely lost, and going forward that is only going to be more prevalent. Add in that one of the preseason games is going away, and that’s even less developmental time for youngsters during camp.

In short, players drafted in 2020 and the years after are even less likely to have an immediate impact on the field early in their careers.

Adams is a beast

Keeping in mind that younger players are not likely to make significant contributions early in their careers, and it’s probably likely that a healthy Adams makes a bigger impact in 2020 and 2021 than any three youngsters drafted with the picks sent to New York.

Drafted players are a crap shoot. A team might get a Bobby Wagner or a DK Metcalf in the, or it could wind up with a Malik McDowell or a Christine Michael. On the flip side, if a team has certain pieces in place, such as a future Hall of Fame quarterback and the makings of a potentially good secondary, adding a proven All Pro such as Adams might be enough to push the team over the top.

Teams always like to think they’re just one player away, and perhaps the Hawks are simply a single player away from actually making it past the divisional round. What we do know is that Adams is both younger and better than Bradley McDougald, and given their nearly identical cap numbers for 2020, there’s no question which one teams would rather have for this season.

The future

Given that one hundred percent of teams would likely choose to have Adams over McDougald for 2020, things then turn to the future. For the Seahawks, the future is uncertain because while Russell Wilson says he plans to be at the helm for another decade, Pete Carroll is the oldest head coach in the NFL. How many more years Carroll will lead the Hawks is certainly a question that sparks hot debate, but at some point his tenure in Seattle will come to an end.

With the addition of Adams, Carroll now has the ability to make a final push for another Lombardi the way he wants. He’s got the bruising running backs he likes in Chris Carson and Carlos Hyde. He’s got dangerous vertical threats in Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf, and he could fill a stable with the tight ends who will look to occupy the middle of the defense in Will Dissly, Colby Parkinson, Greg Olsen, Jacob Hollister and something like fourteen other guys.

More importantly, however, on the defensive side of the ball things are finally coming together to form a unit that could begin to be recognized as formidable. With Quandre Diggs and Jamal Adams at safety and Shaquill Griffin and Tre Flowers on the outside, the secondary has the makings of a unit that isn’t the Legion of Boom 2.0 at this point, but it’s got the potential to be very, very good for a very long time. Add in the fresh legs of Jordyn Brooks to Bobby Wagner and K.J. Wright to go along with a defensive line that appears likely to have more specialized roles than any prior Seahawks unit, and it’s a group that may not dominate, will likely make some noise. And that’s what Carroll wants.

Give him the guys with a chip on their shoulder who are ready to come in and give everything they’ve got to a mission that is bigger and more important then themselves, and that’s what Carroll has been looking to build.

Whether this is the final push for Carroll, or whether it’s the next push in a career that will extend for another decade, the team is now built in the fashion and manner Carroll wants it built, and Adams was a necessary piece in getting the team to that state. Not that McDougald was bad. Just the opposite, McDougald is a fine safety, possibly even very good. But very good doesn’t even begin to sum up Adams, who rates very good at the weakest parts of his game.

And that’s why the Seahawks were willing to pay what was necessary to add him to the roster. Now it’s just a matter of seeing how big the impact Adams makes on the field will be.
 

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2019 NFC West (Points Allowed Per Game)

San Fran: (19.5ppg 7th)
Sheattle: (24.2ppg 19th)
LA: (22.8ppg 17th)
Arizona: (27.6ppg 28th)

2020 Notable Additions/Subtractions (Defense)

San Fran: traded DT Buckner, drafted DT Kinlaw.

Sheattle: lost
(so it seems now) DE Clowney, traded for S Adams, drafted LB Brooks, DE Taylor, and DE Robinson.

LA: lost
OLB Fowler, ILB Littleton, and CB Robey-Coleman, signed DT Robinson and OLB Floyd, drafted OLB Lewis, S Burgess, S Fuller, and ILB Johnston.

Arizona: signed
OLB Kennard, drafted OLB Simmons, DT Fotu, DT Lawrence, and ILB Weaver.

Summary


49ers' offseason was primarily treading water defensively by finding cap relief in order to retain Armstead, so they are looking at somewhere from a slight dip to similar level of performance. Still think they win the division, however, because they made some nice additions on offense.

Sheattle's offseason flew under the radar but passing on Clowney (whose film was fucking terrible with them) was good. Adding Adams brought in a high end fit. And I really like their draft haul, particularly Brooks & Robinson. Their defense is young and is going to be better IMO. I expect them to finish somewhere around that 10th range with a more potent unit in 2020.

LA lost a very high energy edge in Fowler, and a better-than-average slot CB in NRC. They did boost their front seven and as a result should be more stout up front, and they boosted their depth in the secondary in prep for Johnson leaving in FA after the season. I expect improvement, but not drastic. Rams' primary improvement in 2020 should be on offense.

Arizona lost some defenders but nobody noteworthy. Their addition of Kennard wasn't particularly noteworthy. I did however like their draft, with a very good haul that should help their defense in coming seasons. Simmons & Fotu in particular I expect we'll come to hate. Guessing we'll see their defense get a slight boost, maybe climb out of the cellar to the 20th range. But I also expect big offensive improvement from them, so they'll be a potential playoff team depending on how much defensive improvement they can find.

49ers are a playoff certainty. Seattle and LA are likely playoff-level teams (whether or not they get in). Arizona is potentially a playoff-level team.