Jenkins tweets disgust with Rams lowball offer?? And other Jenkins negotiation info.

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Elmgrovegnome

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I'd let him walk or franchise him to make him prove that last year's improved play was not a contract year effort only. Because up until this past season JJ was not so disciplined and it hurt the team more than once. I would definitely prefer Tru over overpaying Jenkins.
 

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3 mil for Rodney well below market. He will make around 5mil. Eagles already set the safety market pretty high with their Malcolm Jenkins extension even before guys like Weddle and Eric Berry get paid.

Barron is hard to project because he pretty much has his own position weak safety. So his market value is hybrid between SS and WLB so probably between Vontaze Burfict 4.75 million and TJ Ward 5.25.

3 CBs in this league are making 14 mil Sherman, Patrick Peterson, and Revis perennial all a pros and pro bowlers. If that is his number without accomplishing any of those things forget about it and lets move on. The tier under those elite guys is Joe Hadden another perennial pro bowler and he checks in at 13 mil a year. IMO our guys are not in that tier either. The tier they should fall into is Chris Harris 8.5mil to Byron Maxwell 10.5 mil. Being top corners on the open market they are probably going to land on the higher end of that spectrum.

Joyner, Roberson, and Gaines are developing we don't know what we have whereas we have developed Jenks and Tru and we know we have top notch corners in those guys. At least one will be back Fish loves defense and will not take that big gamble on the back end by hurting the overall talent level and depth.
Grear post! :)

I really want to bring back Tru, Barron, and McLeod and hopefully Long at a reduced rate but thinking that last hope is wishful thinking.
 

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If both look like they're moving on, one will be franchised.

I agree with Jrry, $12 million per year max. Jenkins is better than TruJo when factoring in health - durability is still an ability.

The issue is that both could easily get $12 mil or more on the open market.
 

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I'm sure these Rams players have been talking about LA in their locker room for the last year , talking about all the stuff their going to do when they move to LA , and now the Rams are like , you can either sign this contract , or , you can go play in Cleveland...........lol
 

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At this point seeing tweets from Jenkins I would just as soon see him gone. I never like his BS during the season and now even less. Dont let the door hit you on the way out.
 

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3 mil for Rodney well below market. He will make around 5mil. Eagles already set the safety market pretty high with their Malcolm Jenkins extension even before guys like Weddle and Eric Berry get paid.

Barron is hard to project because he pretty much has his own position weak safety. So his market value is hybrid between SS and WLB so probably between Vontaze Burfict 4.75 million and TJ Ward 5.25.

3 CBs in this league are making 14 mil Sherman, Patrick Peterson, and Revis perennial all a pros and pro bowlers. If that is his number without accomplishing any of those things forget about it and lets move on. The tier under those elite guys is Joe Hadden another perennial pro bowler and he checks in at 13 mil a year. IMO our guys are not in that tier either. The tier they should fall into is Chris Harris 8.5mil to Byron Maxwell 10.5 mil. Being top corners on the open market they are probably going to land on the higher end of that spectrum.

Joyner, Roberson, and Gaines are developing we don't know what we have whereas we have developed Jenks and Tru and we know we have top notch corners in those guys. At least one will be back Fish loves defense and will not take that big gamble on the back end by hurting the overall talent level and depth.

Agree fully on your CB comments.(y) Disagree on McLeod due to some major holes in Rod game that most NFL teams will not desire to dump cap $$$ investments & Rod just fits in extremely well with Fisher/Gregg secondary. Not sure that Rod skill set is in high demand elsewhere. I think that a long term deal with a lower yearly base is what we will see with Rod. In truth Rod plays more like a SS than a deep safety. Does Rod even have hands?

Your right on Barron in "hard to project" statement. In truth Barron has been a bust as a starting safety thus far in the NFL. When you are a top 7 First round draft pick & have the playing history of Mark Barron & you want to pay invest big cap $$$ in a thus far Unsuccessful DB strong safety???

Don't think there will be a long line here for his services as a back 4 starting DB just me here. SS's are like FB's & blocking TE's in the bottom feeders of NFL pay scale. Another fact that there in a GLUT of SS's coming out of College each & every draft. Barron has not had a full yr as a starter since 2012. Most NFL teams play a 34 defenses not but most is a skinny OSLB'er over 6-2 213 pounds going to get a ton of look sees? When most 34 OSLBers are close to Rob Quinn size, not skinny Strong Safeties.

Now Barron has shown that if he has one of the better DL's in front of him in the NFL with the likes of Quinn/Donald/Brockers/Fairley/Hayes/Long ( Five first round picks) Barron can be very effective(y), however how many 43 Defenses have the DL like we had in 2015? :thinking: Sure there are a few teams who might place Barron in a good positions to success but who are they? Are they strapped for cap funds? Are risk takers? Yes I said Risk.

If I am the Rams I know that the best place for Mark Barron to be a stand out is in LA. Rams have proven that the last half of 2014 & the full yr of 2015. I going to invest sound fair $$ into him to start this season as a OSLB'er on this team. Give him his first real chance to come in & follow up on his outstanding 2015 season in the same position that placed him for the first time to stand out in this NFL. But it will not be for over 5 mil a season on a long term deal. A short term one yr deal might get Barron over 5 mil in LA in 2016.
 
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I'm sure these Rams players have been talking about LA in their locker room for the last year , talking about all the stuff their going to do when they move to LA , and now the Rams are like , you can either sign this contract , or , you can go play in Cleveland...........lol

Whats better Cleveland or Chicago for this south Florida born lad :thinking:?

Looks like the Bears might be involved in recruiting Janoris via Pernell McPhee as he just retweeted this on Twitter:

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/2...s-free-agency-janoris-jenkins-pissed-at-offer
 

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The Rams didn't free up tons of cap space by cutting Cook, JL55, and Long only to see both their top FAs walk. We'll be bringing at least one of Johnson / Jenkins back. If neither is willing to take a contract for reasonable money then one will be franchised.

As others have mentioned, Gaines beat out Johnson for his starting role as a rookie. And returned to camp last year as the starter until injuring his foot. It wouldn't surprise me to see management let one of Jenkins / Johnson go, and then franchise the other to buy them a year of evaluation time on EJ Gaines and see how he bounces back from his injury.

If Gaines returns to the same level of play he had pre-injury (and likely continues to improve, as he is essentially still just a sophmore) I wouldn't be surprised to see them let the franchised CB walk as well. If Gaines can't return to starting calibre play, they likely look to the draft and what 1st round corners are available. If there's no prospects they like, then maybe they will finally overpay to keep their guy.

I would be upset to see the Rams commit crazy money to any of their current FAs. You have to be elite talent to justify that. Revis, Sherman, etc. Johnson and Jenkins are great but are not at that level. When Gurley and Donald have to sign new deals, then we better be ready to really open the wallet. Not now.
 

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At this point seeing tweets from Jenkins I would just as soon see him gone. I never like his BS during the season and now even less. Dont let the door hit you on the way out.


I'm glad you don't run the team then.

This is the new normal now...and as younger kids start coming into the NFL, this is only going to get worse.
 

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I'm glad you don't run the team then.

This is the new normal now...and as younger kids start coming into the NFL, this is only going to get worse.

I'm afraid it is kind of the way it is. Twitter generation - they don't know how not to share everything. His agent will not be happy because showing his frustration feeds into that well established narrative that he is a mercenary thus limiting his value.
 

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Not just you.
It is bush league for sure.

Honestly, what do you expect? I mean he is from the University of Florida after all. They don't have a great reputation for putting out classy players. Hernandes, Brandon Spikes, Ronald Powell, Dante Fowler, etc. Not that I put Jenkins in the same category as those guys. I'm just saying Florida has a history with those kinds of players.
 

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All the post saying Gaines returned as the starter is incorrect if you believe what the coaches said. They made it clear that Tru and Gaines would be competing to see who would start opposite of Jenkins. So only Jenkins starting was certain barring a injury of course