Jeff Fisher is expected back as Rams coach next year

[dieterbrock]

Pete carroll went 7-9 twice before he found his franchise QB in Russel Wilson.

And Carroll won a playoff game with that 7-9 team
Yes he found Wilson, and started him over the big free agent signing of Matt Flynn. And the rookie QB rewarded him with a playoff run.
Amazing what happens when you play your best QB regardless of how much experience they have

 

[jrry32]

Pete carroll went 7-9 twice before he found his franchise QB in Russel Wilson.

Jim Harbaugh could probably be an example but he did inherit his talent. Look at his drafts from 2011-2014. Very poor IMO and went 8-8 his last year.

If you look at all the good teams they all have something in common. They have franchise QBs. Fisher has had subpar QB play throughout his Rams HC career. Yea fisher is a stubborn SOB but we won't know what this team can truly become until Goff plays. He is the key to all of this.

So yea. I want to see Goff lead a fisher team before I call for Fishers head.

Pete Carroll went 7-9 twice. Jeff Fisher has been here for FIVE years with ZERO non-losing seasons.

Fisher got a chance to have Goff lead the team. He sat him on the bench. He still refuses to play him despite Keenum's bad play.DELETED

Fisher doesn't get another year because he refuses to play Goff. That's not how this works. His contract is up at the end of the year. He's done nothing to earn an extension.

 

[Bruce2980]

Not true....well, I don't THINK this could be true....Fisher looks too nervous on the sidelines...

Yeah, the look on Fisher's face at the end of the game was one of complete dismay and extreme discomfort, as in, I think I'm going to lose my job kind of discomfort.

Gotta give him credit for stubbornness though. If he has determined the only way to the other side of a brick wall is to bash a hole through it with his head, the he is your man! Although I would consider it to be a better trait to think of walking around it, or going over it, or using a wrecking ball, but that is definitely not him. He is a head bashing, wall tearing down kinda guy. They just make better brick walls now a day I guess.

 

[Bruce2980]

Pete carroll went 7-9 twice before he found his franchise QB in Russel Wilson.

Jim Harbaugh could probably be an example but he did inherit his talent. Look at his drafts from 2011-2014. Very poor IMO and went 8-8 his last year.

If you look at all the good teams they all have something in common. They have franchise QBs. Fisher has had subpar QB play throughout his Rams HC career. Yea fisher is a stubborn SOB but we won't know what this team can truly become until Goff plays. He is the key to all of this.

So yea. I want to see Goff lead a fisher team before I call for Fishers head.

And if Fisher decides to keep Goff on the bench for the next three years you are fine with that? Because if the owner said anything like that to Fisher, I can imagine Jeff would think that he just won the lottery.

 

[Young Ram]

And Carroll won a playoff game with that 7-9 team
Yes he found Wilson, and started him over the big free agent signing of Matt Flynn. And the rookie QB rewarded him with a playoff run.
Amazing what happens when you play your best QB regardless of how much experience they have

I wasn't arguing that Fishers decision to sit Goff for this long was the correct call. I agree Goff should be playing and that's why everyone wants to see him gone.

I do like how he has built the roster though. I know my opinion is not a popular one and I understand why.

 

[Young Ram]

Pete Carroll went 7-9 twice. Jeff Fisher has been here for FIVE years with ZERO non-losing seasons.

Fisher got a chance to have Goff lead the team. He sat him on the bench. He still refuses to play him despite Keenum's bad play. Fisher can pee pee off.

Fisher doesn't get another year because he refuses to play Goff. That's not how this works. His contract is up at the end of the year. He's done nothing to earn an extension.

Again 7-9 without a QB. Winning seasons with one. Not arguing Fishers decision to sit Goff. Arguing that he has built a talented roster and his only drawback has been the QB position.

He has the QB now. Yes he is stubborn I have said that. Not playing Goff is poor decision on his part but it's out of our control. I want to see his draft pick play before I start talking new regimes though.

 

[Young Ram]

And if Fisher decides to keep Goff on the bench for the next three years you are fine with that? Because if the owner said anything like that to Fisher, I can imagine Jeff would think that he just won the lottery.

Cmon man you honestly can't believe that bullshit. No, he won't sit Goff for 3 freaking years. He will be under center sometime this year or at the latest next year guaranteed.

 

[jrry32]

Again 7-9 without a QB. Winning seasons with one. Not arguing Fishers decision to sit Goff. Arguing that he has built a talented roster and his only drawback has been the QB position.

He has the QB now. Yes he is stubborn I have said that. Not playing Goff is poor decision on his part but it's out of our control. I want to see his draft pick play before I start talking new regimes though.

I don't care what he's built. DELETED. You want to know the difference between Carroll and Fisher? Carroll didn't insist on playing Matt Flynn until it cost him a playoff shot. That's the difference between a successful coach and a perennial loser. And that's what Jeff Fisher is...a perennial loser.

Fisher may have his QB now, but he's not letting his QB play. I'd rather Goff get to play for a coach who isn't an utter fool.

Fisher's contact is up. He didn't earn another. If he wants to insist on not playing his draft pick, that's his choice. But he gets to suffer the consequences of that decision. Stop with this ridiculous argument. Fisher should not benefit from his idiotic decision.

 

[Young Ram]

I don't care what he's built. He's a crappy coach. You want to know the difference between Carroll and Fisher? Carroll didn't insist on playing Matt Flynn until it cost him a playoff shot. That's the difference between a successful coach and a perennial loser. And that's what Jeff Fisher is...a perennial loser.

Fisher may have his QB now, but he's not letting his QB play. I'd rather Goff get to play for a coach who isn't an utter fool.

Fisher's contact is up. He didn't earn another. If he wants to insist on not playing his draft pick, that's his choice. But he gets to suffer the consequences of that decision. Stop with this ridiculous argument. Fisher should not benefit from his idiotic decision.

You don't agree that's fine. Like I said my opinion is not a popular one. I get it. I understand why.

 

[jrry32]

You don't agree that's fine. Like I said my opinion is not a popular one. I get it. I understand why.

You may understand why it's not popular, but I don't understand why you have it. Your opinion is that Jeff Fisher is making the wrong move by refusing to play Goff. Your opinion is that he's doing it out of stubbornness. Yet, you want us to give him a contract extension BECAUSE HE REFUSES TO PLAY GOFF.

Young Ram, you have to see why that doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Bruce2980]

Cmon man you honestly can't believe that bullcrap. No, he won't sit Goff for 3 freaking years. He will be under center sometime this year or at the latest next year guaranteed.

Nowhere in my question to you did I recite ant type of belief, I simply asked a question to test the extremes of your statement, that's all. But as far a a QB sitting for three years, unheard of in your world I assume.
But yes, I believe Goff will play this year, but that does not credit Fisher, if Goff is any good the team may revolt, unless Fisher gets his contract extension..

 

[My Sources]

Fisher must go sooner than later if the team doesn't want to lose its fan base. L.A. will support a team so long as they make an effort to right those things that are wrong with the team. This is not St. Louis and maintaining the status quo will not fly. . People in L.A. love the Rams but have way more options. Please bring in management with a proven track record. IMO, Tom Coughlin is worth considering. This long time Rams fan is losing patience as I no longer get excited to see my team. As fans in St. Louis learned, the only thing worse than losing is being boring while losing. This must change and fast.

 

[Juice]

Probably the only one, but I don't mind him coming back.

You are not the only one.

 

[blackbart]

Fisher is the one refusing to play Goff. Why in the hell would we give him an extension because he refuses to let us see what we have? You don't reward a loser because he has a mystery box and refuses to open it until you give him what he wants.

You don't flush a staff and start over because there are some fans who don't agree with the way you handle personnel.

I wanted to see Mannion last year because I thought he would be as good as Keenum and then we'd be able to tell if we really needed to draft another QB. Tough it wasn't the way they wanted to do it.

Same with Goff this year. Is he ready is he not who knows the most the coaching staff or the fans? When the staff gets ready to play him they will and he will most likely end up being a franchise QB who will lead the Rams to a good run.

Fisher and Snead are the ones who have built this roster, changed the culture and moved the franchise. They deserve to see a team with a franchise QB who is capable of playing at a higher level with the team they have developed. My opinion, you don't have to agree with it and are welcome to your own.

Doesn't make you right, doesn't make me right.

 

[Young Ram]

You may understand why it's not popular, but I don't understand why you have it. Your opinion is that Jeff Fisher is making the wrong move by refusing to play Goff. Your opinion is that he's doing it out of stubbornness. Yet, you want us to give him a contract extension BECAUSE HE REFUSES TO PLAY GOFF.

Young Ram, you have to see why that doesn't make sense to me.

Yes fisher may have made the wrong move on not starting Goff from the very beginning. That doesn't change the fact that he has brought tremendous talent to our football team. Now, my expectation is that Goff will start sometime this year or week 1 next year. Thinking that Goff will ride the bench for an extended amount of time after that is short sighted.

 

[jrry32]

You don't flush a staff and start over because there are some fans who don't agree with the way you handle personnel.

No, you flush a staff and start over because they have 5 losing seasons in 5 years with the team.

I wanted to see Mannion last year because I thought he would be as good as Keenum and then we'd be able to tell if we really needed to draft another QB. Tough it wasn't the way they wanted to do it.

Which was stupid. I have never thought highly of Mannion, but they should have played him last year.

Same with Goff this year. Is he ready is he not who knows the most the coaching staff or the fans? When the staff gets ready to play him they will and he will most likely end up being a franchise QB who will lead the Rams to a good run.

Then let's give him a better coaching staff.

You can appeal to authority. I can look at Fisher's history and see that he has screwed this up multiple times in the past. He's screwing it up again this year. Unfortunately, our owner doesn't have the balls to step in and do something about it.

Fisher and Snead are the ones who have built this roster, changed the culture and moved the franchise. They deserve to see a team with a franchise QB who is capable of playing at a higher level with the team they have developed. My opinion, you don't have to agree with it and are welcome to your own.

Doesn't make you right, doesn't make me right.

They've had 5 years to produce a winning season. They've failed. Time for Fisher to go bye-bye.

Fact is they had a chance to see what the team could do with a franchise QB; Fisher chose to play a veteran journeyman instead. He gets to suffer the consequences of his foolish choice.

 

[Young Ram]

Nowhere in my question to you did I recite ant type of belief, I simply asked a question to test the extremes of your statement, that's all. But as far a a QB sitting for three years, unheard of in your world I assume.
But yes, I believe Goff will play this year, but that does not credit Fisher, if Goff is any good the team may revolt, unless Fisher gets his contract extension..

Ok let me answer your question. No, I wouldn't be fine with Goff sitting 3 years. If that were the case the off with Fishers head lol. But cmon I don't expect that to happen nor should you.

If Goff is any good we will win games and all will be well. This thing about the team revolting is BS. They play hard every week.

 

[jrry32]

Yes fisher may have made the wrong move on not starting Goff from the very beginning. That doesn't change the fact that he has brought tremendous talent to our football team. Now, my expectation is that Goff will start sometime this year or week 1 next year. Thinking that Goff will ride the bench for an extended amount of time after that is short sighted.

Tremendous talent? I see a team that hasn't won more than 7 games under Fisher. If he's put tremendous talent on this team, he's failed to use it properly. Which makes him at fault for that talent underachieving. That's an even better justification for getting rid of him.

Fisher doesn't get to benefit from his own dumbass decision. My expectation was that Goff would start Week 1. Then it was that he'd start Week 5. Then it was he'd start after the bye. Now, my expectation is that who knows when Fisher will have the balls to make a change. I'm not going to assume anything about when he'll start Goff. He's crapped all over our season. I am not going to support that.

I think a lot of our talent. I think a lot of Jared Goff. That's why I want this team to have a good coach. Not the guy who thinks sitting Goff until Keenum gets us eliminated from playoff contention is a good idea. That's a loser coach move.

 

[dieterbrock]

You don't flush a staff and start over because there are some fans who don't agree with the way you handle personnel.

No you flush them for not building a winning team. Its going on 5 years now.
And who says they have to start over? The roster has plenty of talent, doesn't need to be gutted
McCarthy didn't have to start over in Green Bay, Harbaugh didn't have to start over in Baltimore etc

 

[Young Ram]

Tremendous talent? I see a team that hasn't won more than 7 games under Fisher. If he's put tremendous talent on this team, he's failed to use it properly. Which makes him at fault for that talent underachieving. That's an even better justification for getting rid of him.

Ok let me ask you this. Remove the starting QB from the top teams. Besides the patriots, do you think a lot would have winning records? Not many IMO.

On the flip side, add a franchise QB to our team last year. We lost to Baltimore, Minnesota, and San Fran by 3 points each. We lost to Pittsburgh by 6 points. Does a top QB win us those games? I think he does IMO.