Its Time to Give Reynolds Increased Targets!

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Zaphod

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Wonder if Kupp was 100%. I did notice he wasn't on the field as much.
He's running those slot routes and we were running more two TE sets, and springing Gurley more for it, hence the reason we saw Woods and Reynolds more.
 

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I like Reynolds in the Red Zone more. He is a bigger tougher target for Goff.

Cooks is very good (maybe Pro Bowl good) in the open field but too small in the red zone.
 

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I guess if Reynolds gets more snaps it has to come from somebody else's snaps. Reynolds hasn't played enough to know what he can be. He has made some nice YAC and has a nice YPC average but, he hasn't been all world. I like that McVay is willing to rotate WRs/TEs in more now to keep them rested. Rotate Reynolds in but, also let Cooks get his snaps too. He seems to be a good blocker and can take the hits on Jet Sweeps.

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Cooks takes the top off the defense, something I don't think Reynolds has shown to do as well. Even if Cooks isn't getting the targets, hes opening things up for the receivers underneath.

Once teams start biting on the underneath stuff again, Cooks will get his. Watch for it.

Hey sir I appreciate your thoughts on this but I'll tell you right now without going into a big long essay as to why.... Cooks might get a bomb thrown to him now and then this season, and he even might catch one. But there is no way he's going to become any kind of factor where the other team cares where he is on the field. He's just not a real threat, at all. I wish him the best.
 

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Brandon Cooks last I checked was a human and was injured. He’s back and the team is being cautious. But how does his contract effect anything on the field this year? And Reynolds is getting increased targets. Why does this thread even exist? To promote what is already happening or to hammer Cooks contract.

Man you guys are tough on our Rams this year. Why? I have no f’ing clue.

I hope Cooks goes off next week

He is taking up a huge chunk of the salary cap and he doesn't contribute much. It's bad luck, what has happened to him.

But it's a problem.
 

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Hey sir I appreciate your thoughts on this but I'll tell you right now without going into a big long essay as to why.... Cooks might get a bomb thrown to him now and then this season, and he even might catch one. But there is no way he's going to become any kind of factor where the other team cares where he is on the field. He's just not a real threat, at all. I wish him the best.

Hey sir the tape says otherwise.
 

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thing is Cooks is a luxury. We could have drafted a pure speed guy in the 3rd round instead of giving up a 1st and a ginormous contract. Honestly he is is the 3rd best receiver we have or maybe even 4th best after Reynolds. He cant go over the middle because of the concussions and has iffy hands and poor size. His speed is elite and thats all. He cant even return kicks.
Four consecutive 1,000 yard seasons. Brandin Cooks is a stud wide receiver with a history of concussions, not a luxury.
 

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He is taking up a huge chunk of the salary cap and he doesn't contribute much. It's bad luck, what has happened to him.

But it's a problem.

This manufactured issue of a players salary versus contribution was been applied first to Gurley, then Goff, and now Cooks.

As soon as Cooks has a great game it’ll be some other highly paid Ram who will then be labelled a “problem” that will spawn thread upon thread of demands they be traded, cut, or forced into retirement.

It’s only a problem until they are performing up to your unmeasurable standards
 

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Let me say this:

I'm not at all saying Reynolds should replace Cooks or anyone else...and it seems that's what this thread is turning into. I simply think Reynolds has shown his ability and he should be playing more and getting more targets. He has all the traits to be a starter.

He plays WR1/2 and the slot...so there's room to move him in and out of the game. Whether it's for Woods, Cooks, or Kupp, just get him on the field more by rotation.

Now alot of folks think this is Cooks last year...and that could be very true. His contract was 88 mil over 6 years and 20 mil was guaranteed. No one knows if Cooks retires due to concussions.

Reynolds is making only 625k this year. I think he's shown he's reliable and I think it's time to see if that starter ability is there looking forward. The only way to do that is get him out there and put more on him.
 

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I like Reynolds. His length and catch radius and just the big visible target he is.

I don't think he's a possession WR that is exceptional at coming down with the ball in traffic. But he can run a nice slant and Go route.

I think he's underutilized in the red zone. Should be used on fades and slants.
 

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Reynolds is a good WR and hes been involved in the offense quite a bit so far this season. Im just as confident in him as the others when he's out there. I don't want to remove Cooks for him but I do like that they get him involved weekly.
 

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This manufactured issue of a players salary versus contribution was been applied first to Gurley, then Goff, and now Cooks.

As soon as Cooks has a great game it’ll be some other highly paid Ram who will then be labelled a “problem” that will spawn thread upon thread of demands they be traded, cut, or forced into retirement.

It’s only a problem until they are performing up to your unmeasurable standards

Honestly this is one of the strangest threads I have ever read on this board.

Unmeasurable? He hasn't been able to produce much this year- because of injuries. His lack of production is certainly measurable. Not even sure what you mean bu that.

Also pay matters 100% when you have a salary cap. This notion you seem to be throwing out there that money doesn't matter is also bizarre. If you are spending a lot of money on certain players - its because you think they are going to produce on the field. Gms lose Jobs all the time because of spending big money on contracts with players that don't produce. This isn't 8 year old soccer with participation medals

It's nothing personal against Cooks. Shit happens. It's a business with high high demand.
 

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Honestly this is one of the strangest threads I have ever read on this board.

Unmeasurable? He hasn't been able to produce much this year- because of injuries. His lack of production is certainly measurable. Not even sure what you mean bu that.

Also pay matters 100% when you have a salary cap. This notion you seem to be throwing out there that money doesn't matter is also bizarre. If you are spending a lot of money on certain players - its because you think they are going to produce on the field. Gms lose Jobs all the time because of spending big money on contracts with players that don't produce. This isn't 8 year old soccer with participation medals

It's nothing personal against Cooks. Shit happens. It's a business with high high demand.

Who is doing the measuring?
Or better yet who’s measuring matters?

Here is what McVay says about Brandon Cooks’ and Cooper Kupp’s reduced targets, and you will be surprised it has nothing to do with the salary cap:


I’m gonna roll with what coach says.

I just think it’s annoying to hear this stuff in-season when the salary cap is the farthest thing from the teams mind as they battle for a playoff spot.

In the off-season Cooks, along with Brockers, etc will all be “problems” in regards to the salary cap — but they aren’t today and there is zero reason for the team to dump salary in week 15 - the team has no intentions of getting rid of Cooks, Brockers or any of our high priced stars this season. It’s pointless to talk about it outside of Mock Draft and off-season speculation. So again i never said salary cap doesn’t matter — but you know as well as the team is keeping Cooks this year because he is a valuable player on our roster.

Nobody said it was AYSO either. Least of all me. And I know it’s a business. But it’s the complaints against Cook I find totally fucked cause the guy is a Ram and he gives it 100% for this team. Guy is fucking good. He’s had a down year. But so has everyone. And we are 8-5 and in the playoff hunt.
 

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This manufactured issue of a players salary versus contribution was been applied first to Gurley, then Goff, and now Cooks.

As soon as Cooks has a great game it’ll be some other highly paid Ram who will then be labelled a “problem” that will spawn thread upon thread of demands they be traded, cut, or forced into retirement.

It’s only a problem until they are performing up to your unmeasurable standards
The difference is that I didn't have a problem with Gurleys or Goffs contract at the time of the signing.

I felt both were commiserate with their performances and positions.

However, I felt we overpaid Cooks when he was signed. I felt at the time that he deserved approximately 70% to maybe 80% of what he got.

But I am not a GM sooooo.....
 

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The difference is that I didn't have a problem with Gurleys or Goffs contract at the time of the signing.

I felt both were commiserate with their performances and positions.

However, I felt we overpaid Cooks when he was signed. I felt at the time that he deserved approximately 70% to maybe 80% of what he got.

But I am not a GM sooooo.....

Yes, but when Cooks was signed, nobody was still quite sure how good Woods and Kupp were and how good they were going to be. Cooks was projected to be the #1.

I still view Cooks as a 2nd-tier WR, which makes him very good. Both Woods and Kupp are pushing that top tier. This is a good problem to have.
 

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thing is Cooks is a luxury. We could have drafted a pure speed guy in the 3rd round instead of giving up a 1st and a ginormous contract. Honestly he is is the 3rd best receiver we have or maybe even 4th best after Reynolds. He cant go over the middle because of the concussions and has iffy hands and poor size. His speed is elite and thats all. He cant even return kicks.
Iffy hand? Just not true.
 

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I like Reynolds in the Red Zone more. He is a bigger tougher target for Goff.

Cooks is very good (maybe Pro Bowl good) in the open field but too small in the red zone.
I do agree we should see an extra TE or Reynolds in the red zone.
 

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Problem is that Reynolds almost certainly won't be re-signed after next season, whereas Cooks is already under contract. I'd be fine with him playing more, but he just can't be in the future plans.