And I can't say I blame them. I'd want to get away from a place where such a horrible thing happened as well.
It’s Got to be an Offense Heavy Draft, Right?
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And I can't say I blame them. I'd want to get away from a place where such a horrible thing happened as well.
El Chapo Jr
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Damn that sucks for him. Getting outta Cali ain't gonna help but a lil bit. Wish him all the luck in regards to that situation. That kind of fucked up shit stays with you forever unfortunately.
Elmgrovegnome
Legend
I wouldn’t rule out anything. It’s not like Snead and the Rams have been showing their hand at all in the last few years.
If they see Jeanty as having a Gurley-like impact, then I’d say it’s a definite possibility. They liked Gurley so much that they paid him way over the going rate.
WestCoastRam
Legend
This. And this team has enough holes in it that hard to argue them going in any particular way in the draft. Sure, perhaps FA changes that but doubt we'll be signing any huge difference makers that we won't go after guys at just about any position in the draft that we want.
Can anyone actually say that we're set at any position right now? Guard and center, I guess, maybe safety. Not QB (think both backup and/or future), WR, TE, OT, DE, DT, ILB, CB.
fearsomefour
Legend
Leaving the place doesn't do much for a person dealing with that sort of thing, at least not in my experience..
But, each person is different.
El Chapo Jr
Legend
Yeah its a rough situation no matter what. I feel for them big time as I'm sure most folks would massively struggle with such a loss. I can't even begin to imagine what they are going through. Life has a funny way of giving us little reminders of things that have passed no matter where we are at in life. I wish them the best in dealing with the heart break.
OntarioRam
Hall of Fame
I think that might be possible.
I haven't watched Jeanty play before, so I looked up his highlights.
He appears to be an exceptional running back talent - who doesn't in a highlight tape, I guess, to be fair. Amazing vision, power, and what really stood out to me is his contact balance. He seems almost impossible to bring down if you hit him while running or making a move. He always finds a way to keep moving forward. His balance is unreal. That part reminds me of Kamara.
But what really caught me off guard, as someone that had never watched him play before, given how high some are projecting him to be drafted, is that he is pretty small... and seemingly without elite speed despite that smaller size. At least on film, he didn't look overly fast to me. And these are his highlights. He looks faster than KW, but I didn't really see him shifting into a gear seemingly above every opposing tackler on the field, or pulling away from opposing defenders in chase. At the college level, and particularly not coming from an elite college program where some opponents will be even more meh, I'd expect to see that from a RB projected to be a top 10 NFL draft pick. If he cannot do it in college at a tier 2 program, what will happen in the NFL, when the opposition gets markedly faster and more athletic?
He looks like he will be a real good player, and I think would be an immediate step up over KW. But if we are looking to remedy our RB room being small yet still having no home run speed, I am not sure Jeanty is the answer. Apparently Jeanty runs 4.4 at 5'9". Kyren is also 5'9" and ran 4.5 at Notre Dame (but a slower 4.6 at the NFL combine).
Gurley, Zeke Elliott, McCaffrey, Fournette, Barkley, Bijan Robinson, Gibbs.... you don't really see RBs drafted in the top 10 that are under 5'10 let alone without game breaking speed and agility. The mock drafts that see Jeanty falling into the 20s I think might be more on point. Unless the RB position is coming back into favor and he gets over-drafted after the success Henry, Barkley, and Jacobs saw after switching teams... if that happens I would stay away. Jeanty appears to be a smaller, compact, power back that will best deployed as a clear 1A in a running back by committee group IMO, rather than an elite bell-cow you never take off the field. For a top 10 pick value it's the latter I think you need to be getting.
Funny thing about Jeanty is I had a dream we drafted him, which struck me as very strange given that I don't think he will make it to 26. But if he does make it there then I have to think he's the pick. And then they circle back with the round 3 pick to get a slot weapon, whether it's a TE or WR source position.
I don't prefer that btw. I want the TE or an X if one of value is there. If not then move down, take a need, and add a pick. Unless of course someone very high on their board slides. Which Jeanty would almost certainly qualify as.
I don't prefer that btw. I want the TE or an X if one of value is there. If not then move down, take a need, and add a pick. Unless of course someone very high on their board slides. Which Jeanty would almost certainly qualify as.
I think McVay knows he can get another slot weapon in the 6th, or 5th if we trade back and get one, and he will go for the X weapon earlier.
It sure would be tempting. But I'd still pass & get either an X WR or a TE, even if he's still there. There's just so much value at RB in this draft, and like was mentioned above, Jeanty is actually not much different than KW or BC except Jeanty has great balance.
Even TE is deep in this draft. I'm not so sure about WR tho...
So, if we were to do an "offense heavy" draft, for optimum draft value, I'd go WR at #26 & then TE & RB in rd 3. Then spend our FA $s on Defense.
methomas50
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I believe you are looking at a TE early, OT early, WR early to mid, developmental QB at some point. RB is deep and there will be value late. QB Tyler Shough getting talked up lately.
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WestCoastRam
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There's an argument out there for both RB and TE, that each position group is so deep that it may actually push down the top prospects with teams thinking they can get one later.
IE, we may see Jeanty get near us (though I think Jeanty to Dallas is almost a fore gone conclusion) and one of the top two TE's too.
I agree on WR if it's there, or TE for me as the priority. But that said every time Jeanty runs a wheel route it's a threat to go to the house. Every screen he catches same. He's special. And when he's on turf the dude is lightning, quickness and contact balance plus long speed.
I really like Hampton but if the Rams take him at 26 I'll be bummed it wasn't a TE. If it's Jeanty though I'll get over my disappointment quickly because we shouldn't be drafting a talent like him that late.
The Rams do need some offense, but our D has some needs as well. A run stuffing LB and cornerback.
The offense needs WR, OL, and maybe a young TE, and RB.
Of course, there are rumors flying around but I don't see the Rams moving on from Stafford.
The offense needs WR, OL, and maybe a young TE, and RB.
Of course, there are rumors flying around but I don't see the Rams moving on from Stafford.
As we all know a lot of what happens in the draft depends on free agency. If Jackson is resigned which I think he will be, and Stafford is able to work out something with the Rams; I believe the biggest need is CB followed by TE and MLB.
If Jeanty is there at 26 that would mean he ran 4.5 40 and failed a drug test.
I’m gonna say Rams resign AJax, Hoecht, DRob, Spoon. After that:
Got to Haves:
WR1 - replace the likely loss of Kupp
OT - swing until Hav retires
CB1 - DWill is toast
ILB1 - team with Speights
Nice to Haves:
TE - pair with Higs for 12 formations
RB - game changing breakaway threat
NT - replace BBrown if not resigned
Depth:
WR4 - compete with other signed WRs
CB4 - compete with other signed CBs
I think they put remaining FA $$ towards WR1 and ILB1. So that leaves the other 7 thru the draft.
Got to Haves:
WR1 - replace the likely loss of Kupp
OT - swing until Hav retires
CB1 - DWill is toast
ILB1 - team with Speights
Nice to Haves:
TE - pair with Higs for 12 formations
RB - game changing breakaway threat
NT - replace BBrown if not resigned
Depth:
WR4 - compete with other signed WRs
CB4 - compete with other signed CBs
I think they put remaining FA $$ towards WR1 and ILB1. So that leaves the other 7 thru the draft.
OntarioRam
Hall of Fame
I am extremely high on Whittington, so I think we have a great WR in-house ready to step up and even be a WR2.
Therefore, if the Rams see a WR they like in the draft, I trust them on it, but in my ideal mock scenario, I'd prefer OT or CB or TE with our round 1 and round 2 draft picks and then target WRs later on. Particularly as the Rams seem able to mine the mid-to-late rounds of the draft effectively for very capable WRs (Kupp, Puka, Reynolds, Whittington). The last time we went WR in the top 2 rounds the returns were meh (Tutu, Van Jefferson).
Therefore, if the Rams see a WR they like in the draft, I trust them on it, but in my ideal mock scenario, I'd prefer OT or CB or TE with our round 1 and round 2 draft picks and then target WRs later on. Particularly as the Rams seem able to mine the mid-to-late rounds of the draft effectively for very capable WRs (Kupp, Puka, Reynolds, Whittington). The last time we went WR in the top 2 rounds the returns were meh (Tutu, Van Jefferson).
WestCoastRam
Legend
I think finding a WR1 is gonna be near impossible in FA and draft this year. Additionally, we do have Nacua as WR1 so really we're looking for a WR2 who ideally would be an X receiver. It sure looks like FA won't have that (Godwin maybe but he's not strictly an X, I don't think) and outside of McMillian not sure there's much pickings there in the draft)
But, I think the draft offers intriguing options at TE that could offer meaningful snaps on the boundary in some cases...
There are players at TE in this draft that can offer what McVay originally tried to do when he drafted Everett when he first got to the Rams. Remember, it was Everett that they wanted ahead of Kupp. McVay's offense before the emergence of Kupp was much more 12 personnel focused with a TE that could move all over the field including the boundary.
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