Interested in everyone's thoughts on slowing Philly run game

[Elmgrovegnome]

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[Jacobarch]

The Ram's worst graded run defender by PFF is . . . Braden Fiske.
But, he is obviously one of the Ram's best pass rushers.
That being the case, when do you put him in the game knowing you must limit the Eagle's rushing attack?

Would Shula/McVay go 4-3 (with Reeder/other as "extra" run stopper LB and bring Lake up to be "8 in the box" in certain situations?
Would they go "5 - 3" on certain downs with Hoecht on DL and Rozeboom, Speights and Lake up? Trust DW/Spoon/Durant to take Brown/Smith one on one?

Seems to me Kobie, Verse, Hoecht, Speights, Lake , Curl and BBIII (if healthy) need to be in to stop the run. The rest is questionable.

They can't get run on like in November so something has to change, especially if BBIII is playing hurt?

Selling out to limit the Eagle's running and putting the game on Hurts' arm/management seems wise, but how exactly?

How does everyone see it happening?

Watching the Vikings game Fiske wasn't on the field as often on run downs. I think this will be the way forward

 

[shovelpass]

Watching the Vikings game Fiske wasn't on the field as often on run downs. I think this will be the way forward

It's been that way since week 3. His snaps dropped, Gallimore's and Davis's increased.
Fiske's run snaps

 

[DeaconJones]

Lots of good answers here I think. The best D is a good O. Stop Saquon from repeating his two jailbreaks from last time and the game is a lot closer. Solid tackling and lane discipline. Force Hurts to beat us through the air.

I saw the highlight video of the snow game from 2013 Eagle-Lions. Stafford didn't do great (5 fumbles), but not all on him. At least he has some weather experience like this now. Passing game could be affected by the weather, and that probably doesn't help us. Hold on to the ball Kyren!

 

[DzRams]

Clearly the offense will need to be great.

Focusing only on defensive strategy, I'd sellout to stop the run by the doing the following:

5-6 man run heavy fronts
More Hoecht than normal as he's one of our best run defenders
8 in the box and run blitzes
I'd use Lake as a versatile chess piece - slot, 8th man in the box, spy Barkley or Hurts
a disciplined pass rush with a focus on contain
they'll have to trust the CBs with more 1 on 1 and press coverage like they did against the Vikings with more single high safety looks.

If Hurts beats you with his arm, then so be it.

 

[gabriel18]

Make the tackle when you get a chance.

 

[OregonRamsFan]

Kyren’s fumbleitis is what scares me most in this game.

Our game hinges on whether Kyren turns over the rock. He is the key here. If Kyren produces efficient yards and no fumbles, we have a chance. If he fumbles, we probably lose. This is a game where turnovers will be crucial. The cold obviously makes it worse.

 

[dieterbrock]

Get up by 2 touchdowns and Philly will have to abandon the run at some point

 

[Jacobarch]

Kyren’s fumbleitis is what scares me most in this game.

Our game hinges on whether Kyren turns over the rock. He is the key here. If Kyren produces efficient yards and no fumbles, we have a chance. If he fumbles, we probably lose. This is a game where turnovers will be crucial. The cold obviously makes it worse.

Not only that but penalties. The Rams have had some momentum killing penalties in almost every game. The personal foul on Limmer in the Vikings game was killer and that shit needs to stop. If we do commit those penalties it's a slippery slope

 

[TexasRam]

Going to have to blitz a lot and ask your corners to play their best game. Win in the red zone.

Offense burn clock and score TD’s.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

We need to bring our A game physicality wise and be disciplined in the gap scheme vs the run. Wrap up on tackles and don't whiff on that shit. Broken tackles are one of the main reasons those run plays go for big gains. On passing downs, we need to keep Hurts in the pocket so he can't scramble effectively. We also need to knock the shit out of him on every passing play possible too. Don't care how good a QB is cuz if u smack them enough times, those passes become more rushed and inaccurate a la Sam Darnold. On our side, we need to put up points and make Philly play from behind if possible. If not, we need to grind out some long ass drives to wear that defense down to give em a taste of their own medicine.

 

[Merlin]

Fiske will do what he always does, which is play the pass downs.

As to the plan to stop Saquon it will be equal doses of a heavy box on early downs, and lane discipline. From there maybe Shula gets a bit crazy with the fronts on run downs idk. I mean if you insert Fiske in a 5 man front they can't double him and wash him out.

And then of course our offense has to actually show the fuck up. We have no chance to beat Philly in a low scoring game. Offense has to be in the high 20s or so, eating clock and the whole nine. It will need to be a full on team win to get past these fucks.

 

[20hrswk]

Who knows what happens on Sunday, but watching the GB game Philly didn't look that impressive on offense.

Even on defense, GB was able to run and throw some on them, especially underneath type passes.

Hurts threw some really bad/weird throws? He's ranked 29th of 44 in passing by the dreaded PFF so he hasn't had a good year throwing and a lot of his throwing comes off scrambling/broken plays. Keep him in the pocket and apply a little pressure and . . .
. . . he doesn't seem to process well.

On defense, I sure wish we had signed Calais Campbell and Bobby Wagner for games like this.

Gb lost their starting LG / 3 WRs, had 4 turnovers, a missed FG, numerous holding calls . . . and still played them close.

 

[BigRamFan]

Not only that but penalties. The Rams have had some momentum killing penalties in almost every game. The personal foul on Limmer in the Vikings game was killer and that shit needs to stop. If we do commit those penalties it's a slippery slope

To be fair to Limmer I do not believe that was a legitimate call. It seemed that the play was still ongoing and I was unable to determine whether the whistle had blown from the TV broadcast. But, agreed, we need to limit penalties, particularly dumb ones.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

To be fair to Limmer I do not believe that was a legitimate call. It seemed that the play was still ongoing and I was unable to determine whether the whistle had blown from the TV broadcast. But, agreed, we need to limit penalties, particularly dumb ones.

Yeah that was a head scratcher. I was thinking the same thing.

 

[Mikey Ram]

Kyren’s fumbleitis is what scares me most in this game.

Our game hinges on whether Kyren turns over the rock. He is the key here. If Kyren produces efficient yards and no fumbles, we have a chance. If he fumbles, we probably lose. This is a game where turnovers will be crucial. The cold obviously makes it worse. Just about everything about this game bothers me...I was very upbeat about the ViKings game.. Wasn't at all surprised the Rams won that one...not so much this week...In Philadelphia, possible snow (maybe a lot)..their O-line is not the Vikes their RB is not Barkely and most of all their QB is not named Darnold...We'll see, just don't have the same same warm and fuzzy feeling about Sunday...I kind of think this would be a REAl big upset due to the above(s)..Best chance for the Rams in my opinion is Shula dialing up some big-time D calls, another super-human outing from all the D line and getting a couple of turnovers...I don't really see the Rams running game doing much. As usual, that's why they play the games on the field, not in the odds betting windows

 

[Tumak61]

Teams with record setting rushers find them getting stuffed in the playoffs.

 

[RamDino]

The Rams can negate everything by getting pressure on Hurts. No QB looks good getting killed by a dominant pass rush. With that O-line, however, I'm not sure the Rams can do that without blitzing or stunts or a combination of both. I am praying that Shula comes up with a great game plan.

And limiting Barkley is a no-brainer. The Rams have had a lot of success limiting great running teams like SF for example, when rat boy tried running down our defenses' throats. Need that to happen again. Just my thoughts.

 

[Loyal]

Unleash the Kraken. Stafford will steal these Philly biotches souls. Get ready Coop and Puka!

 

[dang]

Get up by 2 touchdowns and Philly will have to abandon the run at some point

Would be nice to drive/score TD on first offensive drive. The Rams offense needs to play ahead (or at least even) with Eagles offense. Eagles get ahead and they with ground and pound. Their run game actually improves in the 2nd half as their OL/Saquan are seasoned vets with plenty of strength and endurance.
And in case I don’t say it enough - Fuck that dirt bag Siriani!!