I’m about done with the NFL.

[LesBaker]

You would have to give each team 10 challenges. That or if you win the challenge you get it back, although even when they review it the still get it wrong often.

No the same amount of challenges and same rules. You get both right and you get a third.

Allow anything to be challenged, including the spot of the ball which IMO would be a BIG deal.

 

[kurtfaulk]

No the same amount of challenges and same rules. You get both right and you get a third.

Allow anything to be challenged, including the spot of the ball which IMO would be a BIG deal.

What's the point of challenges when they don't overturn obvious blown calls. That fumble that wasn't yesterday took the cake. And to have that bozo in the booth confirming it was a good call, well, there's no hope.

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[EastRam]

Certain rules used to be very clear.

Catch: used to be two feet down and control. Any part of the ball was not allowed to touch the ground.
Which was a very clear rule.
Why did it change. Fans bitching about Dez Bryant’s catch. It wasn’t a catch according to the rules at the time. NFL caved to the noise. Trying to please everyone. Stupid. What the fuck is a football move.

 

[LesBaker]

Certain rules used to be very clear.

Catch: used to be two feet down and control. Any part of the ball was not allowed to touch the ground.
Which was a very clear rule.
Why did it change. Fans bitching about Dez Bryant’s catch. It wasn’t a catch according to the rules at the time. NFL caved to the noise. Trying to please everyone. Stupid. What the fuck is a football move.

I think it originally changed with Proehl's catch against the Bucs in the 99 NFC title game.

 

[EastRam]

I think it originally changed with Proehl's catch against the Bucs in the 99 NFC title game.

Your thinking of the Bucs receiver I believe where the ball hit the ground and the had to punt in the NFC championship game.

But the rule didn’t change until after the Dez no catch

 

[GoodBadUgly]

Certain rules used to be very clear.

Catch: used to be two feet down and control. Any part of the ball was not allowed to touch the ground.
Which was a very clear rule.
Why did it change. Fans bitching about Dez Bryant’s catch. It wasn’t a catch according to the rules at the time. NFL caved to the noise. Trying to please everyone. Stupid. What the fuck is a football move.

That's the thing. The rule was changed because common sense should prevail over the specific rule (made obvious on the Dez Bryant catch/non-catch). But what happened here was the opposite. An ever MORE clear catch and fumble was ruled INCOMPLETE, whistled dead (which refs are supposedly told NOT to do so that replay can save a TD return), THEN was substantiated by Riveron's on-crack team, THEN was backed up the guy the network puts in the booth by request of the NFL to make their obvious steering of the outcome look justified.

I laughed when he claimed by rule this is not a catch. Umm, Really? Game. Set. Match. This was a catch and fumble a full step and football move earlier. And he knew it.

Did anyone notice that NOT ONCE did the schmuck in the booth disagree with the on-field call? Want to bet that if the review had been catch/fumble, he would have said "You can see clearly this is a catch and fumble. Great job by the crew to overturn that"...

If you're going to continue watching the NFL this year, keep track of how many times the booth/TV ref commentator agrees/disagrees. The league was pissed that reasonable analysis was happening by the TV ref, and they made the network use this as a tool to cover their blunders/plans.

Truly makes me sick.

 

[kurtfaulk]

That's the thing. The rule was changed because common sense should prevail over the specific rule (made obvious on the Dez Bryant catch/non-catch). But what happened here was the opposite. An ever MORE clear catch and fumble was ruled INCOMPLETE, whistled dead (which refs are supposedly told NOT to do so that replay can save a TD return), THEN was substantiated by Riveron's on-crack team, THEN was backed up the guy the network puts in the booth by request of the NFL to make their obvious steering of the outcome look justified.

I laughed when he claimed by rule this is not a catch. Umm, Really? Game. Set. Match. This was a catch and fumble a full step and football move earlier. And he knew it.

Did anyone notice that NOT ONCE did the schmuck in the booth disagree with the on-field call? Want to bet that if the review had been catch/fumble, he would have said "You can see clearly this is a catch and fumble. Great job by the crew to overturn that"...

If you're going to continue watching the NFL this year, keep track of how many times the booth/TV ref commentator agrees/disagrees. The league was pissed that reasonable analysis was happening by the TV ref, and they made the network use this as a tool to cover their blunders/plans.

Truly makes me sick.

it's irritating how they completely ignore parts of the rule to justify their decisions. the guy caught the ball, turned then took two steps before the ball was hit out of his hands. just turning signifies a football move. completely ignored by the network "expert".

i can tell you this, if the rams start sucking again the nfl won't get a cent from me because their game is utter bullshit. i hate how i'm drawn in by the rams when i know the product is crooked as hell. i guess it's because the rams play the game the right way.

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