I’m about done with the NFL.

[majrleaged]

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That's what they always do. Always point to something that isn't even close to the same thing and ues it as there argument to dispute. It's done in politics also. But the point is, a holding call on a big play is not the same as a holding call on an incomplete pass on third down.

 

[Ellard80]

I try to avoid these types of threads cause they are just absurd. Every once in awhile I feel the need to set the room straight. So here goes:

Some of you know that I officiate HS, Semi Pro and JC football. I work with several NFL and Div 1 officials. These guys are absolutely top notch and take a great deal of pride in their games. The preparation these guys go through is outrageous (so much so that I don't even want to move up to div 1 or 2 or the NFL. It requires too much time and prep and endlessssssss scrutiny. I don't prep this much to fly my 737). Hours and hours of film review and study every week. They are scrutinized to the nth degree, every play they officiate is reviewed and picked apart.

Officials make numerous decisions on every play. Fouls go uncalled for many reasons, you aren't going to get rid of it. Just because fans don't understand doesn't automatically make officials corrupt. Take a little time to understand the process and key system and you might have a better understanding of the game and how it is officiated. You will see why things were "missed" or not called. (trust me it takes years though) I think that might make your game day a little less stressful and you might actually see the game for what it is: a human game played by humans.

Would you accuse Goff of intentionally throwing footballs to defenders or GZ of intentionally missing every 40-49 yard FG? Of course not, that would be ludicrous and so is accusing officials of intentionally missing calls or controlling the outcome of games.

Say what you want but until you sit in on the preparation and meetings, you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sure I will get several negative comments by fans who don't want to understand, just want something to bitch about, someone to blame. Have at it

I don't believe in consipiracy theories - but their performance needs to be better. What ever they are doing in these prep meetings and film review isn't working.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I appreciate this post. A lot!

I get sick of the "it's rigged" crap that comes up on the board sometimes.

My feeling is..........then why fucking watch if you think it isn't real!!!

Go enjoy something else that won't raise your blood pressure.

Like WWE hahaha.

Yeah I think the “it’s rigged!” stuff is silly too.

WWE makes money because fans know manufactured storylines create maximum drama.

NFL makes money because fans know unpredictability creates maximum drama.

Different business models. One is sports entertainment. The other is an entertaining sport.

The NFL stands to lose billions of dollars if their fans come to believe that the outcomes are predetermined. There is a huge disincentive against ‘rigging’ games.

Reffing at the NFL level is really freaking hard and humans make mistakes. On any given play there are dozens of occurrences that fall in a “grey area” of whether or not a foul should be called. The refs get the vast majority of calls right, but sometimes they miss some big ones. And yeah, just as some players are much more skilled than others, some refs are much more skilled than others.

 

[~lyser]

Hmmmm...I don’t believe vegas or the networks are calling the shots. That would be a massive and very difficult task.

I DO believe the officials are making mistakes AND the games are difficult to watch because of a bloated rule book and human error. Thus, I haven’t watched much NFL or hung around here much. I watch more college these days but those games suffer from the same issues to a bit of a lesser degree IMHO.

I love our Rams and will forever be a fan and at least follow them online and watch when the horns are playing for free, I don’t pay DirectTV anymore or follow other teams/NFL as closely because all the flags, blown calls and commercials have become tedious and somewhat unenjoyable. Again all MHO.

I did watch the Packers get destroyed by the hated niners last night just because I had nothing better to do. Suffice it to say that viewing experience did not do much for my growing distain for the NFL, just cause the niners look great, makes me sick but they laid a beatdown on Green Bay fair and square. Hard to watch but gotta respect the niners this year. Same with Pats, Seahawks, and Ravens...your W-L record speaks for itself. Horrible officiating errors against the Cowboys but they didn’t have the balls to go for the TD on fourth down late so they deserved the loss, bad calls and all.

I don’t see the Rams winning tonight but I will still watch because it’s free and who the hell knows? I got better things to be emotionally invested in, but I will happily toast any RAMS victory and quickly move on from defeats. We always got the ring from 1999 and that is good enough. GO RAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rynie]

There were two bogus tripping calls and one questionable holding call. All were perfectly timed when Dallas was gaining momentum. I don’t care about the Cowboys and usually don’t give in to conspiracy theories, but it sure looked rigged to me.

I do not trust the NFL. I would love to be able to prove it but they would burn the evidence anyway.

Thhis is why I always laugh when fans of other teams say the refs help us. The refs have been fucking us for awhile. The Dez catch they later came out and admitted it WAS a catch. The packers and the patriots benefit the most.

 

[~lyser]

Thhis is why I always laugh when fans of other teams say the refs help us. The refs have been fucking us for awhile. The Dez catch they later came out and admitted it WAS a catch. The packers and the patriots benefit the most.

That’s ancient history bro, but you are correct about the Dez catch. Better tell Garret to grow some stones, Jerry did NOT seemed pleased with his coach yesterday. I could bitch about Spygate but that is ancient history too. Also, your cowboys DID NOT deserve that last second yesterday, coulda been a huge blown call in your favor if they pulled off a miracle. Imagine THAT shitstorm before bitching about bad calls against your team. Just sayin’, no offense intented.

 

[RamsInfiniti]

Thhis is why I always laugh when fans of other teams say the refs help us. The refs have been fucking us for awhile. The Dez catch they later came out and admitted it WAS a catch. The packers and the patriots benefit the most.

Come on man - Cowboys are the most underachieving franchise in NFL for the last 25 years. Never seen a team get hyped up year after year after year like the Cowboys do, only to lose and lose and lose. Haven't made it out of the divisional playoffs in 25 years. Jones can't get past his love affair with Garrett (although that may be changing after yesterday), and this is the #1 factor holding your team back. You either don't watch Packers games, or are just delusional from all the Cowboy's dysfunction, if you think that Green Bay gets "intentional" benefit from the referees.

Fact is, that game was winnable yesterday for the 'Boys, and Prescott laid down a steaming pile of shizzle on the field, which is typically what he does in big games, i.e.. see the NO game earlier this year.

 

[whitedk57]

Would you accuse Goff of intentionally throwing footballs to defenders or GZ of intentionally missing every 40-49 yard FG? Of course not, that would be ludicrous and so is accusing officials of intentionally missing calls or controlling the outcome of games.

So, you're saying the refs are 100% honest and fair, all the time?

 

[coconut]

Maybe the official just missed the call due to his vision being blocked by the grassy knoll

What vision?

 

[~lyser]

Come on man - Cowboys are the most underachieving franchise in NFL for the last 25 years. Never seen a team get hyped up year after year after year like the Cowboys do, only to lose and lose and lose. Haven't made it out of the divisional playoffs in 25 years. Jones can't get past his love affair with Garrett (although that may be changing after yesterday), and this is the #1 factor holding your team back. You either don't watch Packers games, or are just delusional from all the Cowboy's dysfunction, if you think that Green Bay gets "intentional" benefit from the referees.

Fact is, that game was winnable yesterday for the 'Boys, and Prescott laid down a steaming pile of shizzle on the field, which is typically what he does in big games, i.e.. see the NO game earlier this year.

Agreed...shoulda run Zeke more...sound familiar (Gurley)? Nobody had an easy time with that sloppy weather but the Dallas run game was working and Brady made a few more plays than Dak. However, Dak has had a good year, he just seemed ill prepared for the elements in New England and Brady made some amazing plays with his feet/in the pocket and didn't turn the ball over. That was the difference as it seems to have been all year - NE defense and special teams making plays (10 points off turnovers) and brady doing just enough. I hate him and hope his nether regions are infested with a hundred thousand camel fleas. Gotta respect a fist full of rings tho - ill gotten or not, if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[~lyser]

So, you're saying the refs are 100% honest and fair, all the time?

I would say Yes, in their minds they are doing their best. Their best just ain't good enough. Blown calls, non calls, ticky tack flags, make up calls - ruining the game for me personally. But are they doing their best to be fair and honest? - IMO yes. They still suck tho

 

[kurtfaulk]

I don't know about conspiracies but how come almost every 50 50 play always go the Patriots way. I think subconsciously that the refs feel that they need to lean the Patriots way on any close call. I doubt they even realize that they are doing it.

The only time I see it go against the Patriots is when they have a big lead and the call is inconsequential to the results of the game.

my theory is that all the refs would love to have brady as their son in law. so everything they see on the field are through those glasses.

plus goodell and kraft probably used to go together to the epstein parties.

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[kurtfaulk]

Different business models. One is sports entertainment. The other is an entertaining sport.

actually wwe and the nfl are under the same legal banner.

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[Rynie]

Come on man - Cowboys are the most underachieving franchise in NFL for the last 25 years. Never seen a team get hyped up year after year after year like the Cowboys do, only to lose and lose and lose. Haven't made it out of the divisional playoffs in 25 years. Jones can't get past his love affair with Garrett (although that may be changing after yesterday), and this is the #1 factor holding your team back. You either don't watch Packers games, or are just delusional from all the Cowboy's dysfunction, if you think that Green Bay gets "intentional" benefit from the referees.

Fact is, that game was winnable yesterday for the 'Boys, and Prescott laid down a steaming pile of shizzle on the field, which is typically what he does in big games, i.e.. see the NO game earlier this year.

Please show me where I blamed the refs for the loss. I didn't. But you can't honestly say those "tripping" calls were legit. Either way, the Cowboys still have the #1 offense. How are the rams doing? Looking like they arent even going to make the wild card.

 

[Rmfnlt]

Tough subject.

I don't want to get into the tripping call... to me, it clearly was not a penalty.

But, how do we fix that? How do we turn what was clearly a wrong, into a right?

TV immediately played it back, over and over again and it was clear.

Can that not be done by NY? What does NY review? If it isn't every play, then why doe we need them? Need to review every play immediately and call down to refs when they blew it.

One member also brought up what I think is a good point:
The rules book is too large. I'd guess it's double what it was 10 years ago. That's too many distractions.

Dumb it down. Make it easier on the refs by limiting the penalties they can call. Go over every one of them and throw out the challenge that 40% have to be retired.
Maybe that would lessen the clutter in their heads.

So, just my two ideas that swirled in my head. It is getting harder to watch the games. Between the number of commercials and penalties, they seem to go on forever.

Maybe time to streamline.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Please show me where I blamed the refs for the loss. I didn't. But you can't honestly say those "tripping" calls were legit. Either way, the Cowboys still have the #1 offense. How are the rams doing? Looking like they arent even going to make the wild card.

it must be nice being in such a shit division. have the cowboys beaten a team with a winning record yet? i doubt it.

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[LesBaker]

But, how do we fix that? How do we turn what was clearly a wrong, into a right?

Easy solution. Allow the teams to use their challenges for anything they please.

It's really that simple!

 

[~lyser]

it must be nice being in such a shit division. have the cowboys beaten a team with a winning record yet? i doubt it.

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I know right. No comparison between NFCW (best div in football) and NFCE (Eagles underachieving, skins and gnats just plain suck). Our basement dweller, the Cards, would probably win the NFCE. No glory in being 9-7ish and one and done in the tournament. That is where the Cowboys seem to be headed. Probably. Sort of. I could maybe be wrong...I dunno

 

[~lyser]

Easy solution. Allow the teams to use their challenges for anything they please.

It's really that simple!

Yeah but but but it’s not that simple Les. As others have pointed out, even with replay they get it wrong....a lot. Then NY backs up the bad call. You and I and most here have been watching the game for decades. What’s a catch? A fumble? PI? I sure as fuck don’t know anymore and I don’t think challenges and replay has helped, in fact just the opposite, the game is slow and tedious too often now...just take your lumps the old fashion way and go with the call on the field. Or not. I dunno ~~~~~~~~~~~.

 

[Ramhusker]

I feel ya about aspects of the NFL, Sunday Ticket, and Directv. But my family has been sick all week and I think I have had about 16 hours of sleep the entire week. So I took this picture of me deliriously getting amped up for tonight’s game. Those are vintage Monday night football pajama pants worn Steve Urkel style

, a vintage LA Rams hat ( around the Chuck Knox era) and my undefeated when worn on game day 99 jersey!!!!!!! Don’t get down on the system. Just get as crazy as possible without getting hauled away!!!!!