I just saw what Isaiah Crowell did after his TD run

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I include Peters grabbing his dick. (I got hammered here for that opinion).

Sure its funny if it was just a bunch of guys on the playground with no kids around, but there are women and kids watching too.

And there it is Kevin. Most don't give a damn about the women and kids. do the dishes, have babies and keep yer mouth shut.

NFL needs to address inappropriate behavior on the field.
Not 1 single person said women should do the dishes or keep their mouths shut. I get that these things bother you but quit putting words and actions onto others that never happened
 

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I take it you are defending the dick grabbing and butt wiping because you think its funny, and could care less if its done in front of women and kids.
 

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I like how we can get five pages out of somebody wiping his butt with a football.
 

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If everyone can get past ^^^^, everyone can get past this.
 

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You can't legislate class. Anybody that is paying attention knows Crowell is a human turd. He's not going to grow any class at this stage of his life. You just have to ignore it, kinda like the help does in insane asylums when the patients are finger painting with their own pooh. Get the fire hose out when they are done and spray things down. He'll probably go the way of Lawrence Philips when he can no longer play football.
 

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I take it you are defending the dick grabbing and butt wiping because you think its funny, and could care less if its done in front of women and kids.
So I'm guessing you've never heard of. 50 shades of grey? Or seen any of the magazines women read now days? And please tell me how a butt wipe of a ball is going to scar either out women or children? As to the jock grab classless yes as far as offensive to women and children have you seen 80 percent of what's on TV anymore.

Tbh your defending women in a fashion that anymore offends the person your defending more then the action you are offended by
 

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I adjust my crotch on a regular basis. Sometimes in public. Just happens to work out that way.
I have yet to do any paperwork in public.
I see the difference that Bubba is seeing.
 

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Isn't it incumbent on owners and/or coaches to try and address this rather than the top down? I get what Les is saying in terms of how the league should want to address the image issue, and I'm inclined to agree.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more owners go the route of Jerry Jones and begin issuing behind the scenes edicts as to what does and does not constitute 'acceptable' on field behavior. We also might see FA actively avoid those destinations too. Interesting times in the league.
 

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So I'm guessing you've never heard of. 50 shades of grey? Or seen any of the magazines women read now days? And please tell me how a butt wipe of a ball is going to scar either out women or children? As to the jock grab classless yes as far as offensive to women and children have you seen 80 percent of what's on TV anymore.

Tbh your defending women in a fashion that anymore offends the person your defending more then the action you are offended by

As a woman, I have to agree with the bolded parts. Young children might be another story, but I've read - and written - some shit back in the day that was very, ah, questionable, at best. No, it wasn't 50 Shades of Grey (which, along with Twilight, is something I refuse to read), but I'm not going to be scarred for life by a crotch grab or someone wiping their ass with a football. While both acts are questionable, it doesn't even register on my radar.

Of course, people probably can and will disagree, which is their right. I just don't see it as a big deal. Just my honest opinion.
 

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I'm definitely not digging the butt wipe celebration, but 50 Shades did wonders for my 22 year marriage!
 

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Isn't it incumbent on owners and/or coaches to try and address this rather than the top down? I get what Les is saying in terms of how the league should want to address the image issue, and I'm inclined to agree.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more owners go the route of Jerry Jones and begin issuing behind the scenes edicts as to what does and does not constitute 'acceptable' on field behavior. We also might see FA actively avoid those destinations too. Interesting times in the league.

Going back to the NBA, and they had an image problem the size of King Kong.

They knew what was wrong, they knew where the issues were, and they addressed them head on with the union and ownership.

They changed rules and instituted new standards and it worked. IMO one of the best rule changes I have ever seen in sports was the hand check rule.

Putting this on individual owners means that there will be different standards for each team when the best move for the NFL is uniformity across all the franchises. Just in this thread we see that people feel differently about the two recent taunts after scoring. There has to be changes that are the same for each team.

I love great celebrations but taunting is taunting and it's really poor sportsmanship. There isn't a place in this great sport for that kind of nonsense.

Remember when Travis Kelce threw his towel at a ref and got ejected? I thought that was fair, and I think crude TD celebrations should merit the same thing. Otherwise we will see this kind of thing after every first down, INT, TD, big play, tackle for a loss/QB sack and who wants that?
 

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https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti..._wipes_after_td_celebration/s1_12680_27414842
Isaiah Crowell signs endorsement deal with Dude Wipes after TD celebration
Originally posted on Sportsnaut | By Vincent Frank | Last updated 10/2/18


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New York Jets running back Isaiah Crowell is taking full advantage of his controversial touchdown celebration during a Week 3 loss to the Cleveland Browns.

By now, it’s well known that Crowell pretended to wipe his behind with a football after scoring against his former team (watch here).

Crowell has now inked an endorsement deal with Dude Wipes, a company that produces disposable wipes for men.

This is not a joke. It’s happening. And we’re all here to witness it.

“Thanks to @dudewipes I am now covered. Never leave home without them,” Crowell wrote on Instagram while posing with the product.

No word yet on whether the backdrop was in fact Crowell’s toilet. We’ve reached out to him to confirm, but he’s too busy giving these things a test run.

This is just a brilliant endorsement opportunity for both sides. A job well done, Cro!
 

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I don't know how much you follow the NBA but here is a good example.

Years ago the NBA had a really, really serious image issue. Stern, who IMO may be the best sports commish of my lifetime, knew he had to institute changes because fans were unhappy with the pace of the game, the overabundance of way, way too hard fouls, the hand checking even with two hands (not sure if you recall that crap), the league was viewed by so many as a group of "thugs" that all smoked weed and the list goes on. Players were dressing sloppily and it was a bad look to many fans getting on and off airplanes and buses.

Stern worked with the union to fix some things and just installed rules on his own because he could. And the leagues image changed pretty quickly. Now they are enjoying tremendous popularity. The NBA's ratings have been rising for several years now with one year being a dip, while the NFL's are dropping. ABC was up 17% themselves.

And that means the revenues are higher.

They changed things to improve the game itself, and to improve the public's perception of the players. They worked hard to make changes to their cap rules, and still do that.

I don't know why the owners love Goodell so much, IMO he's holding the revenues down by not making rules changes to the game that fans are turned off by.

They can't even figure out what the freak a catch is..........it's that stupid. The league is run by tone deaf doofuses.

I agree with so much on so many topics...but not David Stern.

David Stern is the devil for organized sport.

He basically ruined basketball during the first Lakers Celtics finals pitting it as Magic Johnson versus Larry Bird. The players were confused because that's not how either team played and both had all-star/HoF players on it from Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Jamaal Wilkes and others.

It became positively unbearable during the Jordan years.

The refereeing that CLEARLY gave preference to veterans and even more to stars made the game a joke where marketing actually had an outcome on the game.

Well, and there was the fixing by some refs...

Basketball got better almost instantly under the new Commish, Adam Silver, but unfortunately other sports started doing this.

I cringe when I see the NFL market a game as "Aaron Rodgers versus Tom Brady" because no one who plays thinks of the game like that.

I was a MASSIVE Laker fan as a kid. I mean, in 1985, I skipped school to sit in the parking lot of the forum and get two tickets for finals that year. The buddy I went with got the flu before the game and he was a stand up guy and sold his ticket to my dad for cost and I got to take my dad to an NBA finals game which the Lakers won in amazing Showtime fashion.

Honestly, I dunno which was worse in the late 90s... the "Iso" style of basketball or the NJ Devils "dump and hump" that took them to the Stanley Cup in '95 and dominated the NHL for a decade. Both were boring as sin and nothing like what made either sport great.

Basketball is an order of magnitude better as they reclaim the team part of "team sport", but I just haven't been able to recapture the love I had.

Stern was like other leaders like Michael Eisner and Roger Goodell... improved the finances while basically ruining the product and enjoying success in spite of rather than because of their leadership.

Sorry...David Stern is a thing for me...

Carry on.
 

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https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti..._wipes_after_td_celebration/s1_12680_27414842
Isaiah Crowell signs endorsement deal with Dude Wipes after TD celebration
Originally posted on Sportsnaut | By Vincent Frank | Last updated 10/2/18


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Raj Mehta-USA TODAY Sports
New York Jets running back Isaiah Crowell is taking full advantage of his controversial touchdown celebration during a Week 3 loss to the Cleveland Browns.

By now, it’s well known that Crowell pretended to wipe his behind with a football after scoring against his former team (watch here).

Crowell has now inked an endorsement deal with Dude Wipes, a company that produces disposable wipes for men.

This is not a joke. It’s happening. And we’re all here to witness it.

“Thanks to @dudewipes I am now covered. Never leave home without them,” Crowell wrote on Instagram while posing with the product.

No word yet on whether the backdrop was in fact Crowell’s toilet. We’ve reached out to him to confirm, but he’s too busy giving these things a test run.

This is just a brilliant endorsement opportunity for both sides. A job well done, Cro!

This is genius. Would have been bad had he not apologized prior to doing this.

And as someone who has Crohn's (in remission), lemme just say that guys are missing out if they don't use wipes.

I've got other tips for men, but no place to share them (some are NSFW)
 

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I agree with so much on so many topics...but not David Stern.

David Stern is the devil for organized sport.

He basically ruined basketball during the first Lakers Celtics finals pitting it as Magic Johnson versus Larry Bird. The players were confused because that's not how either team played and both had all-star/HoF players on it from Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Jamaal Wilkes and others.

Sorry bro, strongly disagree that Stern ruined the NBA because he called the finals "Magic vs Bird". And the players were confused how? Sounds like something a plastered dude would say at a bar. We know that the whole Magic vs Bird thing started from college at the '79 the finals, and that they were always trying trying to 1-up each other since then. And I get it that those 2 didn't play on D each other, but they were obviously on the court at the same time, so it isn't as bad as QB vs QB. Anyway, media and their hype.

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