I feel dirty

[Tano]

It's OK. I could never be angry with Johnny Tano.

You're not giving up on that are you lol

 

[Allen2McVay]

You're not giving up on that are you lol

That poster was trying to be an A-hole but inadvertently gave you a gift.

Johnny Tano is a great name for a Forum handle ... and a porn star!

 

[Tano]

That poster was trying to be an A-hole but inadvertently have you a gift.

Johnny Tano is a great name for a Forum handle ... and a porn star!

I wonder how many women I could pick up with that handle lol

Of course I would have to be 40 years younger

 

[Cjcinec]

I was referring to the idea that every Rams’ loss helps their draft position. That doesn’t apply to comp picks.

It would apply to their own draft choices which they have a 2nd 3rd and a 6th. Big difference from picking last in a round like last year and possibly between the 3rd and 6 pick that they will end up with this year. They could use the 2nd and 3rd to move around in the rounds.

Rams currently are projected to have:

Round 1- traded to Detroit
Round 2- Rams pick
Round 3 Rams pick
Round 4-traded to NE
Round 5- traded to Browns
Round 5 2 comp picks ( Darious Williams, Austin Corbett)
Round 6 Rams pick
Round 6 Packers pick
Round 6 Titans pick
Round 6 Comp pick for SJD
Round 7- traded to Packers
Round 7 Lions pick
Round 7 comp pick for OBO

10 total draft choices

 

[Allen2McVay]

It would apply to their own draft choices which they have a 2nd 3rd and a 6th. Big difference from picking last in a round like last year and possibly between the 3rd and 6 pick that they will end up with this year. They could use the 2nd and 3rd to move around in the rounds.

Yeah, I get that.

Originally (on page 1), I was replying to a poster that pointed-out the losses put the Rams in better position "for all those rounds"; and I pointed-out that it was really just two meaningful picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds because the Rams, in addition to not having their own #1, also did not have their own #4 and #5.

 

[Kupped]

Yeah, I get that.

Originally (on page 1), I was replying to a poster that pointed-out the losses put the Rams in better position "for all those rounds"; and I pointed-out that it was really just two meaningful picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds because the Rams, in addition to not having their own #1, also did not have their own #4 and #5.

Great context and great point.

I see a trade down as very likely from that 2nd round spot.

 

[RamDino]

So basically Snead has six 6th round draft choices. This should be interesting.

 

[HitStick]

I don’t hate morris’ D for 95% of the time. Playing with the lead causes him to go soft. It’s cost us games this year.

 

[RAMSinLA]

So basically Snead has six 6th round draft choices. This should be interesting.

I believe Brady was a 6th round pic. I may be wrong but I think he was. Maybe we can get lucky with a RB or O-Lineman.

 

[Snaz]

Nope.
Not that easy.

You tell me *why* would he run an attacking, flexible scheme last year… and not run it this year?

You say this defense is failing.. why would someone choose the worse option, when they have chosen different in the past?

Give me a logical explanation.

Mine is that he doesn’t have the personnel to successfully run what you suggest and they believe this is the best chance for keeping the score close.

He likes to play soft zone. It's His preference.

 

[wolfdogg]

The amount of vitriol aimed at a DC who played a key role in getting the Rams a Super Bowl is, at times, astounding to me.

I guess people gotta aim their angst somewhere.

The reason we won the superbowl was because Morris was more aggressive in the playoffs and against cinci.

As soon as I saw 5 and 6 man fronts early in the nfc championship game I knew it was different. In the 2 seasonal losses we used 4 man fronts and got run over. In the nfc title game rams gave up 50 yards. The difference was scheme not players.

You are caught up in thinking that criticizing the defense is saying the players aren't as good as they are but that's not what some of us are saying.

We're saying, don't play so soft, especially when Brady is on a game winning drive. Don't put Rapp in coverage. Use more 5 and 6 man fronts, etc.

We had these Sam discussions last year when the Rams played basically prevent defense in their losses, but alot of us here gave props to Morris as he tweaked his scheme to be more aggressive.

It's the same this year.

 

[CanadaRam]

The Rams should have overpaid the guy they let go and now is coaching the Chargers. THAT was a great defense.
Morris is terrible and anyone can coach AD.
Tired of watching Rams DBs 10 yards off the receiver they are up against.
We have 3 wins and I do not think the Rams would have 2 wins if they got up in those receivers faces more.
Morris coaches like he is scarred.
He needs to stop letting JR play all over and let him pin the top WR to the sideline and go with that. He is not 23 anymore.

Wow Staley. Wow.
one year as DC in LA and somehow he walks on water.
How come the Charger D has been mediocre, even after grabbing lots of great players.
im not a fan of the bend don’t break D.
That said, the Rams are 3-9 because of the O not the D.

 

[Kupped]

He likes to play soft zone. It's His preference.

Except when he had players who could play more press and were better in coverage and had a real pass rush.. that’s not how they played.

You can say “he likes to play soft” over and over… but we know he’s done more than that.

The question is why do you think he’s calling it differently when he clearly was successful calling an aggressive D in playoffs?

 

[Kupped]

The reason we won the superbowl was because Morris was more aggressive in the playoffs and against cinci.

As soon as I saw 5 and 6 man fronts early in the nfc championship game I knew it was different. In the 2 seasonal losses we used 4 man fronts and got run over. In the nfc title game rams gave up 50 yards. The difference was scheme not players.

You are caught up in thinking that criticizing the defense is saying the players aren't as good as they are but that's not what some of us are saying.

We're saying, don't play so soft, especially when Brady is on a game winning drive. Don't put Rapp in coverage. Use more 5 and 6 man fronts, etc.

We had these Sam discussions last year when the Rams played basically prevent defense in their losses, but alot of us here gave props to Morris as he tweaked his scheme to be more aggressive.

It's the same this year.

Except he changed a lot last year.

And he’s blitzed plenty this year

He’s using Rapp because Fuller is hurt.

He had the personnel to be aggressive.. and he was.

 

[wolfdogg]

Except he changed a lot last year.

And he’s blitzed plenty this year

He’s using Rapp because Fuller is hurt.

He had the personnel to be aggressive.. and he was.

You keep getting lost in the fact that alot of people criticize when he plays too loose but commend him when he plays more aggressive, especially since that has been when the Rams d has been their best.

When you have Warner, Aikman and Romo talking about how how soft the secondary is, you have a problem. If you don't recognize this, then you have a bigger problem. I appreciate your analysis but I'll take those 3 guys over anyone's on rod.

 

[Kupped]

You keep getting lost in the fact that alot of people criticize when he plays too loose but commend him when he plays more aggressive, especially since that has been when the Rams d has been their best.

When you have Warner, Aikman and Romo talking about how how soft the secondary is, you have a problem. If you don't recognize this, then you have a bigger problem. I appreciate your analysis but I'll take those 3 guys over anyone's on rod.

Oh, boy.

And I’ll take McVay’s decisions over any of them.

And… yes, it’s McVay’s decision. Feel free to think otherwise, but they’re playing the defense he wants played.

 

[wolfdogg]

Oh, boy.

And I’ll take McVay’s decisions over any of them.

And… yes, it’s McVay’s decision. Feel free to think otherwise, but they’re playing the defense he wants played.

Mcvay over 2 HOFrs with 4 superbowls or those 3 qbs with their view from the qb position vs a college qb is debatable but everything they said proved to be true and has whenever Morris got weak kneed, so I'll the the proof in the pudding over the Kool aid.

 

[Kupped]

Mcvay over 2 HOFrs with 4 superbowls or those 3 qbs with their view from the qb position vs a college qb is debatable but everything they said proved to be true and has whenever Morris got weak kneed, so I'll the the proof in the pudding over the Kool aid.

I’d say the proof is in the pudding in a Super Bowl win for our Rams.

But that’s just me.

 

[wolfdogg]

I’d say the proof is in the pudding in a Super Bowl win for our Rams.

But that’s just me.

Dude, again, you get lost in the nuances. I bagged on Morris, and even mcvay at times when the play calling OBVIOUSLY cost games, but I'm always looking to praise them when they make the adjustments that have proven benefits.

They're not perfect and many times the sideline adrenaline gets a coach twisted. Even mcvay admitted that after the SB loss to the pats.

Mcvay is great but he's young, and when I hear Warner, Aikman, and Romo say the defense is playing too soft and that Brady is licking his chops seeing a prevent all the way down the field to the winning td, I'm gonna lean their way, especially when I'm seeing the very same thing as the rams Lose the game.

I mean really, how do you defend that? Oh, those guys don't know what they're talking about? Yeah, except it played out the exact way they predicted and I'm not going to ignore that.

last year, the rams played from behind in the playoffs and the superbowl but a key factor in their championship run was playing aggressive defense, which I loved.

 

[oldnotdead]

The amount of vitriol aimed at a DC who played a key role in getting the Rams a Super Bowl is, at times, astounding to me.

I guess people gotta aim their angst somewhere.

You overlook the fact that he played the defense differently in the playoffs than he did at the beginning of last season and this season. He played aggressively in the playoffs and returned to his overly soft prevent defense as his base defense this year. He's playing guys in the few times he calls man coverage who aren't suitable in that style of play. He has two better options to Hill, Kenrick and Long who are zone CBs. Only long has the speed to play man, but he has always struggled to play that style. Rochell and Durant are far better options in man coverage than Long and especially Kendrick who has proven time and again this season he lacks the speed to play that style. So explain why as a DC Morris doesn't see that? Either he doesn't know his players or it's as was the complaint in Atlanta they aren't his guys, i.e. his buddies. It's the problem when a DC socializes with certain members of his unit and not others. It leads to the perception of favoritism which from what I've heard was the same in Atlanta as it is here. It's why in the military officers and enlisted are separated. You can't make objective decisions when some are friends and others aren't. Kendrick is athletically limited and Morris turns a blind eye. It's no different when all this time McVay turned a blind eye to Wolford's limitations. I'm no coach but even I could see it.