How does McVay fix this?

[badnews]

I hope ROD can handle success lol

 

[Rams43]

McVay got a bloody nose in this SB.

Goff got a bloody nose from this SB.

Gurley was not nearly himself, either, although I think he was hurt.

But guess what? They’re all very smart and football loving guys that have a lot of pride. All 3 are extremely competitive, loving to win and Hating to lose.

They were good enough to post a 15-3 record against a difficult schedule pre-SB.

I have NO doubt that they will analyze and make corrections, then come roaring back next year.

 

[Selassie I]

He's already FIXED THIS.

Maintaining his incredible level of success will be the goal.

 

[Reno Ram]

We were 1 absolutely terrible holding call away from taking the lead in the 4th quarter of a defensive slugfest/chess match....

The impact of the bogus call on Sullivan was huge. Who knows how it would have played out if we hadn't been robbed of momentum for the first time all game?

Definitely not blaming the loss solely on officials...But, I personally felt like that was the turning point in the game.

Goff and Brady were both getting their asses kicked up to that point...
Unfortunately, I think our defense was also effected, after seeing such a horrific call go against us, at such a critical point in the game..

McVay will be fine! Finally gets Gurley going and out comes a very late flag, from other side of the field, essentially taking points off the board and giving Patriots the ball back in a tie game.

But, I understand if no one wants to talk about it after the Saints debacle...

 

[SWAdude]

We were 1 absolutely terrible holding call away from taking the lead in the 4th quarter of a defensive slugfest/chess match....

The impact of the bogus call on Sullivan was huge. Who knows how it would have played out if we hadn't been robbed of momentum for the first time all game?

Definitely not blaming the loss solely on officials...But, I personally felt like that was the turning point in the game.

Goff and Brady were both getting their asses kicked up to that point...
Unfortunately, I think our defense was also effected, after seeing such a horrific call go against us, at such a critical point in the game..

McVay will be fine! Finally gets Gurley going and out comes a very late flag, from other side of the field, essentially taking points off the board and giving Patriots the ball back in a tie game.

But, I understand if no one wants to talk about it after the Saints debacle...

I love it!

Very smart play there.

So true.

 

[…..]

I don't think much needs fixing when you make the Super Bowl.

This is true.

We didn’t need fixing before the game.

Still, one could argue we use the Bears game and the Pats game as a blueprint of “what to fix”

 

[thirteen28]

Still, one could argue we use the Bears game and the Pats game as a blueprint of “what to fix”

This ^. Those two teams played similar defense against the Rams and were really the only two that shut our offense down. In our other two losses, we scored 35 and 23 points.

Fix that, learn to adjust on the fly, come up with plan B and C when plan A isn't working and vary the personnel groupings within a game when one is working better than the other.

 

[jrry32]

This is true.

We didn’t need fixing before the game.

Still, one could argue we use the Bears game and the Pats game as a blueprint of “what to fix”

You know McVay will obsess over it. Remember when the Vikings shut us down in 2017? He came back in 2018 and blew up their defense.

 

[RAMblin Man]

This is true.

We didn’t need fixing before the game.

Still, one could argue we use the Bears game and the Pats game as a blueprint of “what to fix”

But did they expose the Achilles heel of our offense? Is all of the motion just smoke an mirrors if the defensive line just keeps north/south and ignores the rest?

 

[Turducken]

A SB rematch seems unlikely, but we have a home game against NE in the new stadium (2020).

 

[ramdonnie]

We were 1 absolutely terrible holding call away from taking the lead in the 4th quarter of a defensive slugfest/chess match....

The impact of the bogus call on Sullivan was huge. Who knows how it would have played out if we hadn't been robbed of momentum for the first time all game?

Definitely not blaming the loss solely on officials...But, I personally felt like that was the turning point in the game.

Goff and Brady were both getting their asses kicked up to that point...
Unfortunately, I think our defense was also effected, after seeing such a horrific call go against us, at such a critical point in the game..

McVay will be fine! Finally gets Gurley going and out comes a very late flag, from other side of the field, essentially taking points off the board and giving Patriots the ball back in a tie game.

But, I understand if no one wants to talk about it after the Saints debacle...

I feel the same way. I don't want to blame the officials, but they made the difference in this Super Bowl. I guess they wanted to make up for the Saints' game, but that game was also called against us. Last 2 games our opponents were only penalized 20 yards each and us like 65.

I just watched the 1st Q, and if not for that BS call on Roby, we dominated the game that entire quarter. We picked off Brady and forced him to fumble (strip sack) in those 15 mins (his qbr must have been 0), and then we had them at 3 and 20 around their own 20. Our D was totally controlling the game to that point, but then the refs made the bad call and they got into field-goal range (only to miss.) They should have punted there, and we would have had the momentum in great field position.

Then as Reno-Ram says, we were about to take the lead, but then the "holding" call on Sullivan. Then, as we were about to tie it, the "no-call" on our TD pass.

It felt like we just gave up after that since the officials were controlling the game. D got tired and lost desire at very end of the game. Yes, we could have played Gurley more, Goff could have done better, but we actually did enough to win this game if not for the officiating. As Rams' fans, we are just used to it by now, so we don't even say anything about it. It's routine treatment for us.

 

[badnews]

I think the Rams didn't do themselves any favors on Offense and because of the way the Saints acted after their "worst call ever" media event, nobody is talking about just how suspect that officiating was.
The Saints got screwed over on 1 big play that may or may not have been completed. Their gripe was in not getting the penalty yards they felt entitled too.
The Rams were fucked over on every opportunity they had to build momentum.

That was the look in their eyes - not how do we get points against the Pats - instead it was "how are we supposed to do anything if the refs are going to punish us all game?"

If the Rams had made a couple more plays on offense, we very easily could have won - but only if those plays weren't called back too. Because we scored only 3 points and because we are the Rams, there was never going to be any outrage over the officiating, despite it being worse than the NFCC.

 

[shaunpinney]

Fix what? going 13-3 and reaching the SB within a 2 year period... only losing to the Dark Overlord and the GOAT QB in one of the greatest defensive exhibitions I have seen for a very long time (on both sides) - we had a banged up Gurley (don't try telling me he wasn't you scamp McVay) and an injured Kupp (Edelman 2.0)

I think Bellichick said it best at the game when Sean McVay told him "...you’re the best, man." his response was "Shit, you’re taking over, buddy."

erm am I missing something here?

 

[ramdonnie]

I think the Rams didn't do themselves any favors on Offense and because of the way the Saints acted after their "worst call ever" media event, nobody is talking about just how suspect that officiating was.
The Saints got screwed over on 1 big play that may or may not have been completed. Their gripe was in not getting the penalty yards they felt entitled too.
The Rams were freaked over on every opportunity they had to build momentum.

That was the look in their eyes - not how do we get points against the Pats - instead it was "how are we supposed to do anything if the refs are going to punish us all game?"

If the Rams had made a couple more plays on offense, we very easily could have won - but only if those plays weren't called back too. Because we scored only 3 points and because we are the Rams, there was never going to be any outrage over the officiating, despite it being worse than the NFCC.

It's frustrating for us, but imagine how the team feels. They must be thinking, "How can we possibly win when we are playing against the refs?"

Maybe we are being blind. Is there any stat on penalties given and penalties against for the season? Maybe it's 50/50, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

 

[ramdonnie]

It's frustrating for us, but imagine how the team feels. They must be thinking, "How can we possibly win when we are playing against the refs?"

Maybe we are being blind. Is there any stat on penalties given and penalties against for the season? Maybe it's 50/50, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

Interesting, I found the answer to my own questions.

2018 PENALTIES NET YARDS REGULAR SEASON:

RAMS: -26
PATRIOTS: +94
SAINTS: -125

PLAYOFFS ONLY, NET YARDS

RAMS: -104
PATRIOTS: -30
Crybaby Saints: Only -10

Interesting that for the regular season of 16 games the Rams were at -26, but in the Playoffs of 3 games only, they were -104! Either they played really bad or the refs were against them.

Also note, the Pats were +94 during the season! Saints had a tough season overall, but they were blessed in the playoffs.

I found stats on this site:
http://www.nflpenalties.com/index.php?year=2018&view=reg_season

 

[ramdonnie]

Interesting.

2017 REGULAR SEASON NET PENALTY YARDS

RAMS -114
CHEATRIOTS: +200
SAINTS -117


2017 PLAYOFFS

RAMS +6
CHEATRIOTS +143
SAINTS -145

 

[Flint]

Fix what? going 13-3 and reaching the SB within a 2 year period... only losing to the Dark Overlord and the GOAT QB in one of the greatest defensive exhibitions I have seen for a very long time (on both sides) - we had a banged up Gurley (don't try telling me he wasn't you scamp McVay) and an injured Kupp (Edelman 2.0)

I think Bellichick said it best at the game when Sean McVay told him "...you’re the best, man." his response was "crap, you’re taking over, buddy."

erm am I missing something here?

The offense slowed down the last few games, was totally shut down by the bears and Pats.
This is one of the most amazing turnarounds ever no doubt, but the ram offense hasn’t been great against the big boys. Maybe Kupp makes a difference, we’ll have to see.

 

[RamWoodie]

I heard that the Pats were switching their defense at the last second and Romo was speculating that the Rams weren’t coming to the line til late to keep the Pats from communicating which didn’t seem to matter. People are saying the Pats were switching defense very late and when the qb is turning his back on play action you can see how it caused uncertainty. The one thing that everyone seems to agree on is the Rams need some variety in formation. Have Goff drop straight back or in shotgun, go uptempo or quicksnap.

This is true...but it didn't happen until late in the 4th qtr...that's when McVay figured it out.

Beilicheat's main goal to hurt the Ram pass defense was to confuse Goff...and it worked to a great degree.

 

[thirteen28]

I think Bellichick said it best at the game when Sean McVay told him "...you’re the best, man." his response was "crap, you’re taking over, buddy."

Did he really say that? That's almost awesome if he did ... (I have to say "almost" because I still want to hate Belichek )

 

[AZRams]

I get the sense that he's far more self-aware than this but gotta make sure he doesn't go full Martz...if you assume there is always somebody somewhere out there that is smarter and better at what you do than you are, you'll learn and adapt in a healthy way. I fully expect, like I said, that McVay is wise enough to keep from falling down that Mad Scientist rabbit-hole.

You don't ever go full Martz!