Happy Jeff Fisher Day

[Karate61]

Guys, can't I just hate Jeff Fisher, and everything about him? Is that not allowed in ROD?

 

[Classic Rams]

:deadhorse:

 

[Faceplant]

Ok. It's not hard to pick a good player when picking in the top 10 of a draft.

Yeah, that's why Cleveland is such a powerhouse....

 

[Rmfnlt]

I'll say one thing though, if it wasn't for Jef Fisher re-building the Rams (especially on D & ST) McVay wouldn't have had that season last year.

To me, it doesn't matter so much WHY a Head Coach fails... there's any number of reasons:
* Bad coaching staff selections (check)
* Bad drafting (N/A - the Rams - and I say The Rams because it wasn't all Jeff Fisher) drafted well while he was Head Coach
* Poor coaching (check)
* No discipline nor respect (don't mistake that for fondness) from the players (check)

Yes, the drafts were good.
But, build a team of good players and expose them to bad coaching, poor motivation and bad schemes and that team will appear average. That's what Jeff Fisher did.

McVay came in and immediately knew what was needed:
* Better coaching staff
* Shoring up of the Oline
* Better receiving
* Building teamwork through respect (not country club activities).

These were liabilities that remained under Fisher for at least the last three years of his tenure.

He just didn't put enough into the offense and hire a good OC.

Yup... but the maddening thing was... he either was clueless to fix that, or downright stubborn. McVay fixed, in one season, what Fisher was never able to correct in five.

At first i think we all were hoping

Nah, not me... I didn't like the hire from day one.

Gave lots of reasons but fell upon deaf ears. I feel no satisfaction being right... and especially for five years of mediocrity and being let down.

 

[shaunpinney]

To me, it doesn't matter so much WHY a Head Coach fails... there's any number of reasons:
* Bad coaching staff selections (check)
* Bad drafting (N/A - the Rams - and I say The Rams because it wasn't all Jeff Fisher) drafted well while he was Head Coach
* Poor coaching (check)
* No discipline nor respect (don't mistake that for fondness) from the players (check)

Yes, the drafts were good.
But, build a team of good players and expose them to bad coaching, poor motivation and bad schemes and that team will appear average. That's what Jeff Fisher did.

McVay came in and immediately knew what was needed:
* Better coaching staff
* Shoring up of the Oline
* Better receiving
* Building teamwork through respect (not country club activities).

These were liabilities that remained under Fisher for at least the last three years of his tenure.

Yup... but the maddening thing was... he either was clueless to fix that, or downright stubborn. McVay fixed, in one season, what Fisher was never able to correct in five.

Nah, not me... I didn't like the hire from day one.

Gave lots of reasons but fell upon deaf ears. I feel no satisfaction being right... and especially for five years of mediocrity and being let down.

OK lets look at your points:
* Bad coaching staff selections // There were certain selections which were bad but Greg Williams and Bones were awesome appointments
* Bad drafting (N/A - the Rams - and I say The Rams because it wasn't all Jeff Fisher) drafted well while he was Head Coach // They drafted better than well
* Poor coaching (check) // The rams whoped ass on many occasion with better coaching than opponents
* No discipline nor respect (don't mistake that for fondness) from the players (check) // I don't think teresa's/is an NFL team that respected their HC more than the Rams and thats with a losing record.

If you think that Fisher exposed players to bad coaching, poor motivation and bad schemes then you must be a fly by night fan. Be blinkered all you want, but without Fisher you wouldn't have Donald, Gurley or Goff, the so-called cornerstones of the Rams success - or for that matter coach Bones, Zuerlein or Hekker or are we calling all those guys flukes?

Yes losing was a bitch, but I can respect what Fisher put in place -put McVay in after Spagnulo and you're talking 3 wins max...

PERSPECTIVE people!

 

[Ramlock]

OK lets look at your points:
* Bad coaching staff selections // There were certain selections which were bad but Greg Williams and Bones were awesome appointments
* Bad drafting (N/A - the Rams - and I say The Rams because it wasn't all Jeff Fisher) drafted well while he was Head Coach // They drafted better than well
* Poor coaching (check) // The rams whoped ass on many occasion with better coaching than opponents
* No discipline nor respect (don't mistake that for fondness) from the players (check) // I don't think teresa's/is an NFL team that respected their HC more than the Rams and thats with a losing record.

If you think that Fisher exposed players to bad coaching, poor motivation and bad schemes then you must be a fly by night fan. Be blinkered all you want, but without Fisher you wouldn't have Donald, Gurley or Goff, the so-called cornerstones of the Rams success - or for that matter coach Bones, Zuerlein or Hekker or are we calling all those guys flukes?

Yes losing was a bitch, but I can respect what Fisher put in place -put McVay in after Spagnulo and you're talking 3 wins max...

PERSPECTIVE people!

Bravo!

 

[1maGoh]

OK lets look at your points:
* Bad coaching staff selections // There were certain selections which were bad but Greg Williams and Bones were awesome appointments
* Bad drafting (N/A - the Rams - and I say The Rams because it wasn't all Jeff Fisher) drafted well while he was Head Coach // They drafted better than well
* Poor coaching (check) // The rams whoped ass on many occasion with better coaching than opponents
* No discipline nor respect (don't mistake that for fondness) from the players (check) // I don't think teresa's/is an NFL team that respected their HC more than the Rams and thats with a losing record.

If you think that Fisher exposed players to bad coaching, poor motivation and bad schemes then you must be a fly by night fan. Be blinkered all you want, but without Fisher you wouldn't have Donald, Gurley or Goff, the so-called cornerstones of the Rams success - or for that matter coach Bones, Zuerlein or Hekker or are we calling all those guys flukes?

Yes losing was a bitch, but I can respect what Fisher put in place -put McVay in after Spagnulo and you're talking 3 wins max...

PERSPECTIVE people!

If you consider the points he made in light of the offense, he is correct. Defense and special teams, no checks. Offense, more checks than your body has room for (except drafting; not so bad at the drafting, but he said that).

Unfortunately for Fisher the offense has to take the field at some point during the game.

 

[Karate61]

OK lets look at your points:
* Bad coaching staff selections // There were certain selections which were bad but Greg Williams and Bones were awesome appointments
* Bad drafting (N/A - the Rams - and I say The Rams because it wasn't all Jeff Fisher) drafted well while he was Head Coach // They drafted better than well
* Poor coaching (check) // The rams whoped ass on many occasion with better coaching than opponents
* No discipline nor respect (don't mistake that for fondness) from the players (check) // I don't think teresa's/is an NFL team that respected their HC more than the Rams and thats with a losing record.

If you think that Fisher exposed players to bad coaching, poor motivation and bad schemes then you must be a fly by night fan. Be blinkered all you want, but without Fisher you wouldn't have Donald, Gurley or Goff, the so-called cornerstones of the Rams success - or for that matter coach Bones, Zuerlein or Hekker or are we calling all those guys flukes?

Yes losing was a bitch, but I can respect what Fisher put in place -put McVay in after Spagnulo and you're talking 3 wins max...

PERSPECTIVE people!

Ok. Fire McVay, and let's hire back Fisher!

 

[shaunpinney]

If you consider the points he made in light of the offense, he is correct. Defense and special teams, no checks. Offense, more checks than your body has room for (except drafting; not so bad at the drafting, but he said that).

Unfortunately for Fisher the offense has to take the field at some point during the game.

Agreed, our offense was offensive for most of the time and I'm sure if he'd have appointed a better o-line coach and OC he'd still be here... which I don't think anyone wants.

My point was purely noting that Fisher DID transform a dumpster fire of a team (or as I mentioned elsewhere, the ashes of a dumpster fire of a team) into a team with POTENTIAL. It was annoying to see us take apart the Seahawks on a regular basis etc only to be beaten badly the following week.

I guess I'm just bored of the Fisher hate, I wish the guy well...

Ok. Fire McVay, and let's hire back Fisher!

ermm... that won't be necessary, I think we're in better hands now

 

[Mojo Ram]

OK lets look at your points:
* Bad coaching staff selections // There were certain selections which were bad but Greg Williams and Bones were awesome appointments
* Bad drafting (N/A - the Rams - and I say The Rams because it wasn't all Jeff Fisher) drafted well while he was Head Coach // They drafted better than well
* Poor coaching (check) // The rams whoped ass on many occasion with better coaching than opponents
* No discipline nor respect (don't mistake that for fondness) from the players (check) // I don't think teresa's/is an NFL team that respected their HC more than the Rams and thats with a losing record.

If you think that Fisher exposed players to bad coaching, poor motivation and bad schemes then you must be a fly by night fan. Be blinkered all you want, but without Fisher you wouldn't have Donald, Gurley or Goff, the so-called cornerstones of the Rams success - or for that matter coach Bones, Zuerlein or Hekker or are we calling all those guys flukes?

Yes losing was a bitch, but I can respect what Fisher put in place -put McVay in after Spagnulo and you're talking 3 wins max...

PERSPECTIVE people!

 

[OldSchool]

These guys are predicting the year of the Fisher. They have 11 teams going 7-9


View: https://twitter.com/uSTADIUM/status/1019948267231236096?s=20

 

[Karate61]

These guys are predicting the year of the Fisher. They have 11 teams going 7-9


View: https://twitter.com/uSTADIUM/status/1019948267231236096?s=20

Browns may go 7-9! Lol

What a difference; 4-12 last year to 12-4 predicted this coming season. How'd they mess up last year so bad? Of course, I have no qualms with their 2018 predictions...lol